Perry Forgets Third Agency Again; Or Adds Fourth

witness23

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You've got to be friggen' kidding me! This man is an absolute moron.

Hell, he makes Dubya look like a friggen' Einstein. How does this man show his face in Texas once his vacation is over?

If this man had an ounce or self-respect he would leave the race immediately and save what face he has left. Moron!!!


Perry Forgets Third Agency Again; Or Adds Fourth

Link: Perry Forgets Third Agency Again; Or Adds Fourth - Fox News


Add another department to the list of federal agencies GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry wants boarded up.

When asked which three agencies he would shut down during a radio Interview with Bill Edwards on WTKS Savannah, Perry quickly responded.

"Three right off the bat, you know, commerce, interior and energy..."

Those aren't the same three agencies Perry has talked about closing in the past. This resurrects Perry's historic "oops" moment on November 9th, where at a debate he failed to remember which agencies he had proposed cutting before finally naming Commerce, Education, and Energy.

When asked for a comment, campaign spokesman Mark Miner said, "The fact that he mentioned another federal agency that needs to be cut shouldn't be surprising. When he talks about reforming Washington he's serious about limiting the size and scope of government and every agency needs to be looked at."

This apparent gaffe comes at the worst possible time for Perry, who is struggling to stay in the race and needs a strong finish in South Carolina to keep his campaign viable.

A Real Clear Politics average of the polls out of South Carolina show Perry trailing the entire GOP field with the exception of Jon Huntsman.
 

Turtle

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He's not a moron, he' just another victim of the "Ron Paul Effect", where he knows agencies need to be closed (because Ron Paul said so and he knows Ron Paul is right, and because he knows that's what people want to hear), he just don't know which ones need to be closed because he's never really given it much thought because doesn't actually intend to close anything. Mark Miner's comments (damage control) only reinforce it.
 

witness23

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Does it really matter when someone irrelevant screws up?

Well he is relevant considering he is still in the race and he was relevent not so long ago. You think that's a screw up? Read Turtle's comment.

Like I said:

If this man had an ounce or self-respect he would leave the race immediately and save what face he has left. Moron!!!

The guy is a disgrace and he's making the American people look like idiots.
 

RLENT

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Does it really matter when someone irrelevant screws up?
Only from the standpoint that there are some that think the Governor is just the cat's meow in terms of a candidate ... which makes him not entirely irrelevant just yet .... at the point where he drops out, and the wooden stake is driven through the heart of his candidacy, only then will he be truly irrelevant.

Some folks see him as the only "true" (evangelical ?) conservative in the race - he's not a Mormon, and he's not a Catholic .... and most importantly, he's not Ron Paul. He's served and worn the uniform (never mind the fact that he could have donned it a little earlier, when something was actually going on)- and is therefore fully qualified as a member of the warrior class ....

He is the candidate for those who do a certain thing while fantasizing about something (anything) in a uniform ..... while the remainder of us (who are "normal") do the same thing while fantasizing about normal, everyday women (or men, depending :rolleyes:) ....

He's the candidate that clearly hasn't had enough (.... even though he won't actually be the one himself doing the having .... making him an ideal fit for other Pro-Lifers For Death™ ....)

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Turtle

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To give you an example of just how forceful the "Ron Paul Effect" can be:

Obama takes on big government:
'It has to change'


By BEN FELLER


WASHINGTON— Seeking more power to shrink the government, President Barack Obama on Friday suggested smashing six economic agencies into one, an election-year idea intended to halt bureaucratic nightmares and force Republicans to back him on one of their own favorite issues.
"The government we have is not the government we need," Obama told business owners he'd gathered at the White House. Lawmakers seemed willing to at least consider his ideas.

Sounding like a manager of a disorganized company, and looking like one by pointing to slides as he spoke, Obama asked Congress to give him a kind of reorganization power no president has had since Ronald Reagan. It would guarantee Obama a vote, within 90 days, on any idea he offers to consolidate agencies, provided it saves money and cuts the government.

His first target: Merging six major trade and commerce agencies into a one-stop-shopping department for American businesses. The Commerce Department would be among those that would cease to exist.

Congress would keep the final say, but Obama would have a stronger hand to skip much of the outside lobbying and fighting and get right to a vote.

Attacking senseless duplication across the executive branch he runs, Obama said: "Why is it OK for our government? It's not. It has to change."

Politically, Obama is seeking advantage on the turf often owned by Republicans: Smaller government. He is attempting to directly counter Republican arguments that he has presided over the kind of regulation, spending and debt that can undermine the economy — a dominant theme of this year's debate and one often cited by his potential re-election rival, Republican Mitt Romney.

Obama put himself on the side of business people who deal with the government as part of their daily life and are exasperated by a maze of agencies, permits and websites.

"We can do this better," he told them. "So much of the argument out there all the time is up in 40,000 feet, these abstract arguments about who's conservative or who's liberal. ...You guys are just trying to figure out, how do we make things work? How do we apply common sense? And that's what this is about."

In making his case, the president sought to target the design of the bureaucracy as the problem, not the employees who serve it.

Congressional reaction seemed generally favorable, but cautious.

Republicans skeptically pointed to Obama's past promises as the size of the nation's debt keeps growing.

"It's not often that we see real proposals from this administration to make government smaller," said Rep. Fred Upton, the Michigan Republican who is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. "I look forward to reviewing the proposal and hope that it will be the first of many to unravel the red tape."

Indeed, Obama promised more plans to shrink things if given more power, citing inefficiencies all across the government.
Obama had an imperative to deliver. He made the promise to come up with a smart reorganization of the government in his State of the Union speech last January.

He made some waves at the time by pointing out the absurdity of government inefficiency, noting freshwater and saltwater salmon were regulated by different agencies.
The White House said the problem is serious for consumers who turn to their government for help and often do not know where to begin.

Not in decades has the government undergone a sustained reorganization of itself. Presidents have tried from time to time, but each part of the bureaucracy has its own defenders inside and outside the government, which can make merger ideas politically impossible. That's particularly true because "efficiency" is often another way of saying people will lose their jobs.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said she hoped Congress would quickly approve Obama's proposal, which she said tracked with worries Democrats have been hearing from small business owners. Many lawmakers of both parties expressed support in principle but wariness about how programs and the prerogatives of Congress may be affected.
Beyond the politics, the merger Obama offered would have big implications for trade and commerce in America.

Presidents held a fast-track reorganizational authority for about 50 years until it ran out during Reagan's presidency in 1984, the White House argued.

Obama wants to merge: the Commerce Department's core business and trade functions; the Small Business Administration; the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative; the Export-Import Bank; the Overseas Private Investment Corporation; and the Trade and Development Agency.

The White House says 1,000 to 2,000 jobs would be cut, but the administration would do so through attrition. The administration says the consolidation would save $3 billion over 10 years by getting rid of duplicative overhead and programs, although it has yet to spell out any plan in detail.

Obama's announcement treads on ground that Romney, the Republican front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination, frequently stakes out on the campaign trail. Romney often says he would try to shrink government by eliminating offices that duplicate functions performed somewhere else, citing as examples more than 80 different workforce training programs.

Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said streamlining government was always a potentially good idea but expressed suspicion about whether the plan by Obama would really help business. Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, pledged Obama's plan would get a careful review.

But he added: "It's interesting to see the president finally acknowledge that Washington is out of control."
Meanwhile, Ron Paul isn't mentioned at all in the article.
 

RLENT

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To give you an example of just how forceful the "Ron Paul Effect" can be:
Yup - I think it's a very similar deal as the Obama announcement on the military the other day.

Aside from just being good politics, these folks at 1600 are watching very, very carefully what is going on in the GOP primary race - and the mood of the electorate (which is very unsettled and subject to change in short order) that it reflects ..... they are acting to defuse potential issues well in advance of when they would become directly relevant in the general ....

Meanwhile, Ron Paul isn't mentioned at all in the article.
LOL .... of course not ...... :D

;)
 
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