OWS...A Protest Within The Protest......

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
You just can't make this stuff up. These are the same people that want their student loans, etc. "forgiven" yet won't share with some of the other 99%. Aren't these also supposed to be the kumbaya people??? STORY HERE

At a minimum they should be happy for the boost in numbers. Is there a difference between feeding paid protesters from the unions and acorn vs. feeding the poor? :rolleyes:
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
You just can't make this stuff up. These are the same people that want their student loans, etc. "forgiven" yet won't share with some of the other 99%. Aren't these also supposed to be the kumbaya people??? STORY HERE

At a minimum they should be happy for the boost in numbers. Is there a difference between feeding paid protesters from the unions and acorn vs. feeding the poor? :rolleyes:

I'm sure those paid by the unions and ACORN are eating better than the OWS people who just came for a side of liberty. Oh crap... there I go not lumping everyone into one bag again.

Tell me... do you allow the homeless to interrupt your fine dining at Chet TA? I don't either.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
I'm sure those paid by the unions and ACORN are eating better than the OWS people who just came for a side of liberty. Oh crap... there I go not lumping everyone into one bag again.

Tell me... do you allow the homeless to interrupt your fine dining at Chet TA? I don't either.

I guess you didn't read this part......
For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad.

1. I don't "dine" at any truck stop.

2. If a homeless person actually approached me while I was eating, I certainly wouldn't turn him/her away. Some of us have a giving program that just might shock you!

3. If the union and acorn people are being fed any better than what is described above, I'm not hearing about it but then again , I wouldn't be surprised.

4. If you think the only thing going on at these rallies is folks stopping by for a good dose of liberty, you're either very naive or you're not paying attention to the news reports.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
And another thing....LOL....you made an assumption about me with this statement....
Tell me... do you allow the homeless to interrupt your fine dining at Chet TA? I don't either.
and you know what they say about those that assume....just sayin' ;)
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
So a few decide who is to get what.Funny this is one of the evil things those billion dollar companys are acused of doing.A few deciding what the masses get.Also funny no matter if the are homeless or not,if they are holding signs and marching in protest why does it mean less then then others.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Thank you for proving my point, once again.

Again, no point proven here.

Let me go at this another way. Seeings how you disapprove of news sources via papers and tv, just what did you see when you went to one of the OWS protests. Perhaps you'd like to report to us your first-hand experiences. And when you left there, did you then go to some of these other news worthy places that you've posted about here and would you be so kind as to fill us in on what you learned.....first-hand, of course. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I guess you didn't read this part......


1. I don't "dine" at any truck stop.

2. If a homeless person actually approached me while I was eating, I certainly wouldn't turn him/her away. Some of us have a giving program that just might shock you!

3. If the union and acorn people are being fed any better than what is described above, I'm not hearing about it but then again , I wouldn't be surprised.

4. If you think the only thing going on at these rallies is folks stopping by for a good dose of liberty, you're either very naive or you're not paying attention to the news reports.

Oh, I read that part. A bit extravagant, maybe; but last time I checked, spaghetti bolognese can be rather simple to make. I just thought of something tho... maybe a well-to-do chef or two would like their liberty as well... err... student loans paid off as well. I don't generally down someone for what they eat. Afterall, I have my prime rib fix as well.

1. I try not to dine there as well. Their prices tend not to match the quality of food that comes out of the pot. Besides, I hear Swift drivers have cooties.

2. But would you invite A homeless person to dine in front of a hundred other homeless people? Betcha haven't. Try giving one panhandler a 20, with his friends sitting next to him... same thing. I can understand why they're not doing that. It's either serve the whole pack, or none at all.

3. Of course you wouldn't hear about it. Union fat cats would be at the 5 star tables... away from the peons they pay.

4. Or, you haven't been listening to what I've said. I've said there are liberty-lovers, healthcare hoes, student loan scum, union creeps, community activist crackheads, government junkies, tea partiers, liberals, conservatives, independents, libertarians, constitutionalists, socialists, communists, hari-krishnas, hippies, gays,... the list goes on and on. Only one group interests me, as to their success... the liberty-lovers. That is the only agenda I care about... getting government off our backs, getting the banks and corporations out of the government's bed, and getting this country back to the ways of the Constitution.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
And another thing....LOL....you made an assumption about me with this statement....
and you know what they say about those that assume....just sayin' ;)

Not at all. You said you don't dine there, and neither do I. Technically, my assumption was right. Just sayin. ;)
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
1. I agree.....Swift drivers probably do have cooties.:D

2. You didn't say 20 homeless people, you said "the homeless".

3. Union fat cats need to choke at their 5 star tables.

4. I agree that there's quite an assortment of people involved and it looks like many have no idea why they're there. If it would stay peaceful (which some haven't) and CLEAN for starters, they might not incur the wrath of so many.

When the tax paying citizens that live near these places of gathering have to go to city officials and complain of these protesters urinating and defecating near their front steps and such, there's a big problem. We who live in small towns cannot imagine what that would be like, just the smell alone would have most of us pitching a fit.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I'm reading the comments at the OWS site. People are up in arms over the crap the "establishment" of the movement are doing... particularly with the funds that are coming in. Not to mention, they are censoring posts, and names such as Ron Paul. It's obvious to me that the movement heads are in this for personal gain. It's also apparent that the foot soldiers are on the verge of throwing a little movement on top of the movement... ie, to get the site taken down, if there's going to be censorship.

This will be fun to watch play out. Personally, I hope they shed the necessity of some shiester wolves being in charge.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
I'm reading the comments at the OWS site. People are up in arms over the crap the "establishment" of the movement are doing... particularly with the funds that are coming in. Not to mention, they are censoring posts, and names such as Ron Paul. It's obvious to me that the movement heads are in this for personal gain. It's also apparent that the foot soldiers are on the verge of throwing a little movement on top of the movement... ie, to get the site taken down, if there's going to be censorship.

This will be fun to watch play out. Personally, I hope they shed the necessity of some shiester wolves being in charge.

Imagine that...it's starting to sound like, wait a minute....hold on.....oh yeah, it's starting to sound like real life instead of the nirvana they're all hoping to obtain. Isn't it funny that left alone, they have resorted to some of the same practices that they claim to detest.

Maybe they should consider that a whole lot of things in life happen the way they do simply because of human nature. Man cannot help himself, unless he is very very strong and sadly, not many are.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Imagine that...it's starting to sound like, wait a minute....hold on.....oh yeah, it's starting to sound like real life instead of the nirvana they're all hoping to obtain. Isn't it funny that left alone, they have resorted to some of the same practices that they claim to detest.

Maybe they should consider that a whole lot of things in life happen the way they do simply because of human nature. Man cannot help himself, unless he is very very strong and sadly, not many are.

I can only assume that by they you mean the heads of the movement. As I've said, the movement is bigger than them. The more their facade is revealed, the more control will slip thru their fingers (thank you Leia).
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Here's a response to the outrage of not feeding the hungry...

Whether it sucks or not, unfortunately activities encouraging the large homeless population in NYC to continue to be attracted to the site is just as quick a way to "hammer a nail in the coffin" of the movement, which I would prefer we avoid as a donor myself. And keeping this going involves dealing with certain realities, realistically.
First, unlike staff or at least management at soup kitchens, who have experience working with the homeless, OWS does not have the ability to deal with them even if they had all the food service staff and all the food resources every penny of their money could buy. While NOW all the trolls in here want to acknowledge the plight of the homeless needing the tastiest food available and being cruelly denied to highlight the callousness of OWS, when the act of continuing to bring them to the park with no efforts to discourage the growing numbers leads to any incidents where any are injured, which IS irresponsible, then all of a sudden, the trolls will are start shrieking about the dangerous situation created by OWS to continue to attract homeless to the park, just for the PR boost of feeding them.
And if bad press is truly your worry (which seems unlikely and more like what you are trying your best to create with your uproar and misleading post, as sensationalist and inaccurate as any troll dropping), then consider that while the Homeless's plight is for a rare moment finding much acknowledgement here by the opposition discussing this propaganda piece, if any actions perfectly understandable with the plight of the homeless but which would be unacceptable for protesters, are encouraged by the open invite OWS should extend, then predictably those present here and their ilk will manage to overlook even the existence of the homeless within a square mile of the protest and any actions on their part will be conveniently labeled as the actions and consequences of disrespectful and rude protesters.
Also, for one with a more long view concern for the homeless and understanding of reality than you seem to be able to muster, I know that those homeless denied the tasty food you so want OWS to provide for them, will actually benefit as much or more than any of the other 99% should the protests achieve a more fair system where the compassion of the people as opposed to that shown by the corporate wellfare state in place now, is given the political empowerment and resources to put in place the programs to not only replace all the ones cut with the collapse but to also extend services.
This requires that OWS win, which in turn requires they be in this for the long haul. The amount of funds raised truly seems like a huge number when trolls toss it around to prove how rich the movement is, but for a protest that needs to continue for the long term, and cover every aspect of planning and implementation, not just now but as a pool in the future when even with popular support they must keep going while the country takes a nice break to celebrate thanksgiving and Christmas, and then after these likely lower than normal fundraising months begin the push to be out in full force the first day of spring. So I am **** glad to hear they are being frugal with their money.
And while you feel that asking that the protesters eat rice to prove their liberal cred, in order to satisfy folks who indicate they feel nothing but disdain for liberals, anybody with a clue and a desire to succeed knows that's not fair to ask folks sitting out in the cold while she sits at home, eat rice to prove solidarity with the homeless, no matter how much her donation was, and seems like a pretty good way to sabotage a movement where the boots on the pavement aspect requires morale boosters, food being one of the only ones available that OWS can provide as a guarantee, day in and day out..
Cont....


Continued from below...Finally, if this is a black eye, proving OWS lack of wisdom and fodder for criticism from the opposition who will criticize ANYTHING the OWS does, try to remember that while here they decrie the elitism to not ensure to welcome the homeless without reservation despite the fact that no matter how much food they may have they have too little of every other resource, not least of which being toilet facilities. Odd this since their concern for the inconvenience of local residents and business, which critics moan are sorely abused by EVEN THE SLIGHTEST UNSANITARY DROP from any protester going wee wee in the bushes, even though considering the sheer numbers and the perversity of the city making sure no extra facilities may be brought in is quite rare and protesters have gone out of there way to be polite at great inconvenience.
Apparently the hostile opposition only have a limited space for compassion in their black little hearts, for with the trolls sudden worry here for the homeless, they have immediately forgotten all about the poor local residents and business people and how as they have already cried, their needs must stay foremost in organizers minds.
So please dear, since I doubt that your generosity can be that much greater than the limited forbearance you have shown for any OWS straying from your childish and unrealistic demands for how the protest be run, let me know how much you donated and I will gladly match that so you can stfu and grace some less important movement with your questionable support.
:Facepalm:
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Got banned at the OWS chatroom. Some utopian azzhat got insulted that I believe there will always be poor in the world.

Oh well. I met a few libertarians/conservatives/common sensical people in there. Too bad some dweeb threw me out for a difference of opinion... err... being a troll. They aren't going to solve shiite by keeping a closed mind.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Got banned at the OWS chatroom. Some utopian azzhat got insulted that I believe there will always be poor in the world.

Oh well. I met a few libertarians/conservatives/common sensical people in there. Too bad some dweeb threw me out for a difference of opinion... err... being a troll. They aren't going to solve shiite by keeping a closed mind.

The liberal groups are some of the most bigoted and intolerant people in the world. There always has to be rich and poor people in the world, well unless we are all millionaires which just makes everyone poor. When your young you are liberal and have a heart, when you grow up you are conservative and have a brain.

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tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
They ban you in a website for disagreeing with them.If they get there form of liberty what do you think they will do in real life when you disagree with them?You see I also have been reading their site and it has some scary nuts on there and what they want to see happen.I have no problem with LIBERTY FOR ALL.Just dont like some of the ideas of liberty I see on that site.
 
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