OPINIONS ARE JUST THAT

hedgehog

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
It seems to me that everytime Ateam posts an opinion...the usual anti-Ateam members discredit them.

This is a forum. Not a trial.

Let everyone be able to post their thoughts in the venue of sharing information and helping one another.

Be safe and don't hate.
 

tom tinker

Expert Expediter
I just have to comment on this. My father-in-law was highly intelligent
negative as all get out, argue over nothing. Finally I told him opinions are like a%% holes everyone has one, first time I seen him shut up!!!!
Tom Tinker G.R. Mi.:+ }>
 

raceman

Veteran Expediter
This site is like everything else. Someone always gets picked on. I used get picked on here and once I spoke to the person doing picking and we got to know each other things changed somewhat.

A-Team has a great attitude and that is a good thing to have. Sometimes others are bothered by that and sometimes they just come across to darn spunky. Who cares. If you take the info from their posts and all other posts and pick the info that helps you, check it a few other places to be sure it is good info with a back bone, use it.

If you take only what you want to hear, don't verify it or check with others and run off and do something that bites you later, well whos fault is that.

We all have opinions, we all make mistakes and we all have good and bad days. Let's just get along and enjoy our freedom that we have that allows each of us to type just about anything we want in here.

Today is the third Monday of March. National act happy day. Give it a shot.

Raceman
OTR O/O
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I just finished a post taking issue with something Ateam said. But I, and others who sometimes have a difference of opinion with him, will also give a cyber "high-five" when I agree with him. Debate can be interesting as long as it's done in a civil manner, and it usually is done that way here.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
You are correct in that they are opinions. Since it is a public forum, one shouldn't take a disagreement or difference of opinion as personal. Same school of thought if something is misleading to the new folks. It is easier for me and other moderators to respond within the thread rather than field numerous questions individually through PM's and emails if something is in question ect.
That may give the appearance of constantly responding to his threads, but it is more time management.
Maybe the same reason he responds in the same fashion?
When looking at just the last "praise the dispatcher" thread, more members questioned or disagreed than supported the authors position. So what?
Again, that is what a forum is for.
Alot of the members that didn't support the authors opinions, have less than 100 posts. So I don't think the same people are refuting every post.
As Raceman said, take ALL of the information, and then make a intelligent decision.
Again it is a forum, if everyone agreed on everything, there would be little to write.






Davekc
owner
21 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
It's not the disagreement that is a problem; it's the spirit in which it is presented.

The smug arrogance and cutting comments are overtly obvious. This might come as a huge surprise to those who have been repeat offenders, but we are not that naive. We can read between the lines.

Fortunately, most choose not to give credence to these feigned attempts at subliminal sarcasm. Mockery, scorn and derision are the trademarks of an unfulfilled life. Taking a swipe at nearly every post on this forum is like taking poison in an attempt to make someone else miserable. In the final analysis…you are only hurting yourself.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Taking a swipe at nearly every post on this forum is like taking poison in an attempt to make someone else miserable.

When a controversial item or opinion is posted, it is likely to generate a controversial response.
The results shouldn't be a surprise on a public forum.
If one is posting controversial or objectable opinions on a regular basis, then the obvious results will follow as well.
Almost like religion and politics.






Davekc
owner
21 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
I went back and read A-Team's post about the dispatchers at FedEx, because that post was the origin of this latest round of opinions (If you want to call them opinions).

Facts:
1. They like leasing with FedEx
2. Their dispatchers are helpful (Mine too!)
A. FYI (I didn't invest in a GPS unit because my dispatchers are more than willing to assist)
3. Their dispatchers are concerned with safety issues and willing to accept the judgment of the driver. (Mine too!)
A. (As long as I give them periodic updates as bad weather sets in, they have no problem if I say that I need to pull off the road.)
4. They agreed that everyone makes a mistake from time to time. Gee! How more down to earth and humble can you get?

To any reasonable person, that post has no controversial or objectionable opinions, but the personal attacks (And that is EXACTLY what they are) continue.

We all have a bad day every now and then, but apparently some have determined it to be a lifestyle. Personally, I can't do this job by myself. I rely on the Highest Power to get me through each day. I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Oops! Oh well, if you want to deem that statement controversial or objectionable...help yourself. I make no apologies for giving the Glory to Whom it is rightfully due.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
To any reasonable person, that post has no controversial or objectionable opinions,

I would respectfully disagree with you. More members objected, or didn't share the authors opinion, than approved. Obviously it was controversial just based on the fact it generated 48 responses and was slanted to a specific carrier. That by itself will make it controversial regardless of the company. That same author wrote two recent non controversial posts in the newbie section and everyone was supportive including myself.
There is little gained by complicating something simple.

Again, pretty much like politics and religion.







Davekc
owner
21 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
So when you sign your posts with PantherII we should not consider that to be a slant toward a particular carrier? Your signature with the carrier listed would make every one of your posts slanted.

Hmmmmm.

Sounds like the Hillary two step. Definition: Double Standard

Pretty much like politics. Eh?
 

joebob1_30132

Expert Expediter
I see the tone in which the A team post tend to bring out..its pretty obvious and its usually the same people. My impression is that most seem to think their posts border or blatantly are braggadocious (what the &%^$%& kinda spell'n is that) I do take everyones opinion in consideration And is if we all teamed togehtr at one time.... you understand, through their words, generally what kind of outlook your dealing with here ..personaly, I tend to appreciate the positive the Ateam express and do not see it as a threat. I,ve always gravitated towards the positive anyway.. misery has way to much company for me. Besides ..the Ateam are big people.. they seem to take the rock throwing pretty well ..I would be disapointed if they were to pack it in.



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cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
>It's not the disagreement that is a problem; it's the spirit
>in which it is presented.
>
>The smug arrogance and cutting comments are overtly obvious.
>This might come as a huge surprise to those who have been
>repeat offenders, but we are not that naive. We can read
>between the lines.
>IMHO, the "smug arrogance" is the tone that ATeam sometimes seem to be projecting - a kind of superior air, that invites being tweaked. (And I don't see anything I'd call a personal attack on this site, like one I read on another site, which is when I stopped participating on that site. It was malicious, and the mods did nothing to stop it, because they themselves were the perpetrators)
>Fortunately, most choose not to give credence to these
>feigned attempts at subliminal sarcasm.Can you back this statement up - or is it your opinion? "Feigned attempts at subliminal sarcasm"? Apparently, your command of language is far beyond mine, because that makes no sense to me whatsoever. Maybe you would be kind enough to explain it? Mockery, scorn and
>derision are the trademarks of an unfulfilled life. Horsehockey! Taking a
>swipe at nearly every post on this forum is like taking
>poison in an attempt to make someone else miserable. In the
>final analysis…you are only hurting yourself. Nice anology - but to whom do you refer? Because I have not observed anyone "taking a swipe at nearly every post on this forum". I have observed that some people have a decided bias towards, or against, other people & opinions, but as long as it's expressed in a civil fashion, vive le differance! When every post becomes some variation of agreement, why bother to read them?
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
Folks, before this spirals out of control, I'm going to lock this thread. This is not censoring, this is not taking sides, this is heading off a series of replies that I feel can have no good end, and has no need to be further dragged out.

The fact is, in any forum, as in life, there are strong personalities, and people who believe their way of doing things is right. If they did not believe their way is right, why would they be doing it?

Let's face it, people of weak personality and convictions usually do not become a success at any business. They simply are content to float along being 'average joe'. People who stand up for their beliefs, usually have good reason to do so, based on THEIR EXPERIENCES.

Disagreement is indeed a fact of life. People have a right to disagree, and to express that disagreement. The extreme of that is, that will always be people who disagree so completely, that they will butt heads on every subject.

All I can ask, is that they try to do so in a civil manner.

Thank you for your understanding, and let's move on now.






Dreamer
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