Obama said to be furious over gun control backlash

[AMonger]

Don't know how accurate this site is, but here it is for comment. I don't think even this administration is so foolish to believe America would allow gun confiscation.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2013/01/16/republican-insider-obama-livid-over-gun-rights-backlash/

 

[tenntrucker]

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[JohnWC]

hey why don't we ban baseball bats how many lives would that save

 

[tenntrucker]

hey why don't we ban baseball bats how many lives would that save

Or hammers....more deaths than guns.

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[witness23]

hey why don't we ban baseball bats how many lives would that save

No, no, no, it's, "Why don't we ban cars, how many lives will that save?"


By the way, the term "false equivalence" comes to mind when seeing comments like those above.

 

[LDB]

We'd save more children's lives by banning privately owned swimming pools. But then it isn't about children and their lives, it's only about gun control and disarming legitimate citizens.

 

[Turtle]

No, no, no, it's, "Why don't we ban cars, how many lives will that save?"


By the way, the term "false equivalence" comes to mind when seeing comments like those above.

It really isn't a false equivalence, as it's just as ridiculous to ban automobiles as it is to ban guns. Banning automobiles will eliminate automobile-related deaths, but it won't eliminate transportation deaths, as the evidence of horse-related deaths prior to the invention of the horseless carriage attests. In countries where guns are prohibited and are scarce, there are few gun-related murders, but there are still plenty of other types of murders.

The false equivalence is thinking that eliminating guns will eliminate murders. They use silly comparisons like more people are killed in the US every year by guns (31,672 in 2010) than are killed in terrorists attacks worldwide (13,183 in 2010). Well you know what? More people are killed every year in the US due to prescription drug overdose poisoning than are killed worldwide in terrorist attacks. In fact, drug poisoning has overtaken motor vehicle accidents as the number one spot on the list. Clearly, prescription analgesics should be banned. As well as swimming pools, lakes, rivers and bathtubs. Did you know that more than 18,000 people a year die in accidental falls, including falls from ladders, down stairs, over curbs, off buses, into manholes, and through plate glass windows. Obviously, we should ban ladders, stairs, curbs, buses, manholes, and especially those evil plate glass windows.

Meanwhile, we've got an inch of topsoil left and Tesco is feeding horseburgers to the British.

 

[Maverick]

All the gun control rhetoric is just another trial balloon. It's always two steps forward, one step back with these people, and is no different than starting high on a price....knowing full well what you'll actually take.

If they get half what they're after for gun control, it's a victory for them and we lose just a little more. All the while, people will sit back and claim victory, following yet another chip off the boulder of freedom.

They used to bother with polls to get the pulse of the populace. Now? They just ramp up the rhetoric, get the reaction, and move accordingly. It's worked for centuries, and in any country. You simply cannot spend your way out of debt, and when this thing hits......they know people are going to be very angry. (empty stomachs tend to do that).

The guy is upset because even with the media and liberals pulling all the stops (child photo ops, skewed numbers, and pretty news anchors) could not ram this by those who love and cherish freedom.....and know what it means if they take the guns.

 

[tenntrucker]

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[Turtle]

They used to bother with polls to get the pulse of the populace. Now? They just ramp up the rhetoric, get the reaction, and move accordingly.

In this case they have to ignore the polls.

Latest polling shows the majorities of gun owners (81 percent), non-gun owners (58 percent), Democrats (58 percent), independents (72 percent) and Republicans (85 percent) say the people who do these kinds of shootings (Sandy Hook, malls, etc.) “will always find the guns” to commit violent acts.

One of the funniest things I read the other say was someone who noted that "assault rifles" should be banned, and if you ban "assault rifles" then the large capacity magazines would become useless, since hunting rifles cannot hold large capacity magazines like "assault rifles" can.

It is interesting to note a couple of indisputable facts, with one in particular that is truly astounding.

Since the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in September 2004, murder and overall violent-crime rates have fallen. In 2003, the last full year before the law expired, the U.S. murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000 people, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Report. By 2011, the murder rate fell to 4.7 per 100,000 people. One should also bear in mind that just 2.6% of all murders are committed using any type of rifle.

If you want gun control measures that will have any effect on public shootings like Sandy Hook, you have no choice in the matter but to carefully examine the one thing that all of these shootings have in common, and it's a pretty glaring fact that cannot and should not be ignored: With just a single exception (the attack in Tucson last year) every public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has occurred in a place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms.

That's a truly astounding fact, and there's no way to get around it.

 

[LDB]

It is interesting to note a couple of indisputable facts, with one in particular that is truly astounding.

Since the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in September 2004, murder and overall violent-crime rates have fallen. In 2003, the last full year before the law expired, the U.S. murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000 people, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Report. By 2011, the murder rate fell to 4.7 per 100,000 people. One should also bear in mind that just 2.6% of all murders are committed using any type of rifle.

If you want gun control measures that will have any effect on public shootings like Sandy Hook, you have no choice in the matter but to carefully examine the one thing that all of these shootings have in common, and it's a pretty glaring fact that cannot and should not be ignored: With just a single exception (the attack in Tucson last year) every public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has occurred in a place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms.

That's a truly astounding fact, and there's no way to get around it.

Liberals don't want to know facts. Facts interfere with their illogical, irrational and sometimes illegal agendas. The solution is clearly identified in the fact itself. It couldn't be simpler or clearer really.

 

[LDB]

It is interesting to note a couple of indisputable facts, with one in particular that is truly astounding.

Since the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in September 2004, murder and overall violent-crime rates have fallen. In 2003, the last full year before the law expired, the U.S. murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000 people, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Report. By 2011, the murder rate fell to 4.7 per 100,000 people. One should also bear in mind that just 2.6% of all murders are committed using any type of rifle.

If you want gun control measures that will have any effect on public shootings like Sandy Hook, you have no choice in the matter but to carefully examine the one thing that all of these shootings have in common, and it's a pretty glaring fact that cannot and should not be ignored: With just a single exception (the attack in Tucson last year) every public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has occurred in a place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms.

That's a truly astounding fact, and there's no way to get around it.

Liberals don't want to know facts. Facts interfere with their illogical, irrational and sometimes illegal agendas. The solution is clearly identified in the fact itself. It couldn't be simpler or clearer really.

 

[Jumbuck]

hey why don't we ban baseball bats how many lives would that save

I wonder if Obama's plan to ban "assault" weapons will include the entire ARMY that protects him and his family? What about the guards all over the White House and Capital building? Last time I was there, they were literally crawling all over the buildings with fully automatic AK-47s, AR15s, M-16s and all manner of "assault" rifles. Maybe if we ban them from the White House and Capital buildings it will help "stop the gun violence!"
Maybe if they called the "Police" anytime they are threatened...like the rest of us have to do....they will feel a LOT "SAFER" in their home. After all, that's what the police do, right? Serve and Protect?

 

[LDB]

They could eliminate at least 99% of the "assault weapons" from the streets and the citizens if they stopped misusing the term. If they only called actual assault weapons and assault weapon and called the rest of them what they are, semi-automatic firearms, that would solve the "assault weapon" problem instantly.

 

[redytrk]

Guns don`t kill people. People kill people. So lets ban people.

 

[Pilgrim]

Ban this, or those like him:

 

[hossman2011]

It really isn't a false equivalence, as it's just as ridiculous to ban automobiles as it is to ban guns. Banning automobiles will eliminate automobile-related deaths, but it won't eliminate transportation deaths, as the evidence of horse-related deaths prior to the invention of the horseless carriage attests. In countries where guns are prohibited and are scarce, there are few gun-related murders, but there are still plenty of other types of murders.

The false equivalence is thinking that eliminating guns will eliminate murders. They use silly comparisons like more people are killed in the US every year by guns (31,672 in 2010) than are killed in terrorists attacks worldwide (13,183 in 2010). Well you know what? More people are killed every year in the US due to prescription drug overdose poisoning than are killed worldwide in terrorist attacks. In fact, drug poisoning has overtaken motor vehicle accidents as the number one spot on the list. Clearly, prescription analgesics should be banned. As well as swimming pools, lakes, rivers and bathtubs. Did you know that more than 18,000 people a year die in accidental falls, including falls from ladders, down stairs, over curbs, off buses, into manholes, and through plate glass windows. Obviously, we should ban ladders, stairs, curbs, buses, manholes, and especially those evil plate glass windows.

Meanwhile, we've got an inch of topsoil left and Tesco is feeding horseburgers to the British.

you found Horseless carriage death statistics???????
OMG

 

[AMonger]

They could eliminate at least 99% of the "assault weapons" from the streets and the citizens if they stopped misusing the term. If they only called actual assault weapons and assault weapon and called the rest of them what they are, semi-automatic firearms, that would solve the "assault weapon" problem instantly.

Keep in mind we're dealing with gummint officials who lower the unemployment rate by redefining the formula by which it's calculated, and supposedly eliminated the budget deficit during the Clinton regime (another lie) by cooking the books. They know exactly what they're doing when they use the terms they do, and why. And they're largely successful at it. You can correct them and their media toadies all day, and they will still call a semi-auto rifle an "assault weapon," because it fits their agenda to do so.

 

[LDB]

Correct. They and their liberal loony friends and followers are just as you said. I know it's their agenda and they are going to lie and twist things in any way that benefits them. I just took another opportunity to point out what it is they do.

 

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