Obama Christian? Hardly.

[LDB]

Star Parker sees through his phony Christianity and his phony concern for Americans of color.

Star Parker : When color trumps Christianity - Townhall.com

 

[Turtle]

Not really. She's way off the mark on several key points, some being just flat out wrong, but mostly skewed from how she views things. But more than seeing through any of his phony stances, she thinks he should attend far more to "black" issues, and in a more direct and concentrated manner, as well as he should be much more "Christian" in everything he does and says, and by that it means he should do things like she wants him to do.

She's upset because Obama, the uber liberal that he is, didn't pander (for lack of a better word) to the conservative special interest groups of the "March for Life" and the "National Day of Prayer Task Force", but he did pander to the very liberal GLBT special interest group. Shocking, isn't it? No, not really. She's looking at Obama from the point of view of a conservative Christian black American, and she assumes that because Obama is black, that he will do what's best for blacks, and Christians.

She should be more upset that he pandered to any special interest group, regardless of who it is. She's upset that he didn't focus on the very black issue of the HIV mortality rates for blacks, in a venue where "black" wasn't an issue, i.e., she wants Obama to be very all-black all-the-time, verily. She wants Obama to be the black president, not the president. Remember right after the election how so many exclaimed, "Our day has finally come?" How wrong they were, and it's beginning to dawn on them.

This is just one of the countless illustrations to come of blacks being shocked and disappointed because they elected a black man to be president, largely on the basis that he's black. They heard Hope and Change, but they didn't see it, because they were blinded by the black. They want Hope and Change, and they figured that a black man would give that to them, on a silver platter, because they made the mistake of transferring their own thoughts, attitudes, wants, needs and desires to him, because he's black, he's one of us, he's just like me. Well, no he's not, he's a politician, just like the white ones. And they are having a real tough time dealing with that. More and more will begin to feel betrayed by him, even though it was their own illusions that will betray them, not Obama.

 

[tallcal101]

I think your on to something there oh hare trounser.

 

[dabluzman1]

Not really. She's way off the mark on several key points, some being just flat out wrong, but mostly skewed from how she views things. But more than seeing through any of his phony stances, she thinks he should attend far more to "black" issues, and in a more direct and concentrated manner, as well as he should be much more "Christian" in everything he does and says, and by that it means he should do things like she wants him to do.

She's upset because Obama, the uber liberal that he is, didn't pander (for lack of a better word) to the conservative special interest groups of the "March for Life" and the "National Day of Prayer Task Force", but he did pander to the very liberal GLBT special interest group. Shocking, isn't it? No, not really. She's looking at Obama from the point of view of a conservative Christian black American, and she assumes that because Obama is black, that he will do what's best for blacks, and Christians.

She should be more upset that he pandered to any special interest group, regardless of who it is. She's upset that he didn't focus on the very black issue of the HIV mortality rates for blacks, in a venue where "black" wasn't an issue, i.e., she wants Obama to be very all-black all-the-time, verily. She wants Obama to be the black president, not the president. Remember right after the election how so many exclaimed, "Our day has finally come?" How wrong they were, and it's beginning to dawn on them.

This is just one of the countless illustrations to come of blacks being shocked and disappointed because they elected a black man to be president, largely on the basis that he's black. They heard Hope and Change, but they didn't see it, because they were blinded by the black. They want Hope and Change, and they figured that a black man would give that to them, on a silver platter, because they made the mistake of transferring their own thoughts, attitudes, wants, needs and desires to him, because he's black, he's one of us, he's just like me. Well, no he's not, he's a politician, just like the white ones. And they are having a real tough time dealing with that. More and more will begin to feel betrayed by him, even though it was their own illusions that will betray them, not Obama.

I agree.

 

[x06col]

I don't ever remember watching a black reach down, or give up something of their OWN to better a nuther black. They always clamored for someone else to reach down, or give up something of THEIRS, to better a black.

Yer right shelled one, they will be disappointed when other folk's "tings" won't be handed to them as they figgured.

 

[LDB]

You are correct that she wants him to be more "black" but she is also correct in that he displays both by his actions and his inactions that he is not a Christian as he claims to be. Neither side is totally correct but equally accurate is that neither side is totally incorrect. The man is Christian just as much as Arlen Specter was republican. Just because you hang out with a certain group doesn't mean you were, are or ever will be one of them.

 

[witness23]

I don't ever remember watching a black reach down, or give up something of their OWN to better a nuther black. They always clamored for someone else to reach down, or give up something of THEIRS, to better a black

Are you kidding me? That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen or heard.

 

[Turtle]

You are correct that she wants him to be more "black" but she is also correct in that he displays both by his actions and his inactions that he is not a Christian as he claims to be. Neither side is totally correct but equally accurate is that neither side is totally incorrect. The man is Christian just as much as Arlen Specter was republican. Just because you hang out with a certain group doesn't mean you were, are or ever will be one of them.

Well, I've always said Obama is a Christian of convenience, meaning he's not, but that going to church and saying he is a Christian is more politically advantageous. On the other hand, he may very well be a Christian, believe in God and everything, but just because he doesn't act in the way that certain Christians think he should, doesn't necessarily make him not-a-Christian.

She, and likely others, feel he should snub the GLBT because that's the Christian way, or at least one version of it. She forgets that Christian or not, he's a politician. Black or not, he's a politician. A politician cannot effectively do his job if he lets religion dictate his politics, and that's exactly what she, and apparently you, want him to do. That's ain't gonna happen, with Obama or most any other politician.

Are you kidding me? That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen or heard.

Far be it from me to defend the Col, but you may want to un-jerk that knee a little bit and read what was said, not what you think it meant. You're essentially raggin' on an old fart who has a failing memory. He didn't say it never happened, he merely said he don't remember seein' it.

 

[LDB]

I believe you are right about the convenience part. A true Christian could not sit for 20 yrs listening to J. Wright, not if they know and believe what the Bible teaches. A true Christian couldn't virtually ignore the groups she mentions that he virtually ignored but pander to the GLBT. I realize he's a politician and has to work with all constituencies. The problem is he doesn't. He ignores various ones. In this case it reinforces the fact that he is not Christian in deed but in claim/word only.

 

[layoutshooter]

Why are so many people in general, reguardless of race or religion, so surpised to find out that Barry is just one of a VERY long line of Chicago machine polititions who answers ONLY to his "Puppet Master"? Why would have anyone assumed otherwise? What change did you get? All that was done was to exchange a ReBumLiCan for a Dumb-O-Crat. Nothing more. Neither party is out for YOUR best interest. When you learn that there MAY be a chance for REAL change. Till then, no change will come.

 

[RLENT]

In this case it reinforces the fact that he is not Christian in deed but in claim/word only.

Many folks are Christian in claim and word only, and not in their deeds ... while I won't state a percentage, by my observation it's up there .... sure ain't in the single digits.

Amazing the degree of disconnect there is for some - it's almost as though they believe it is a piece of clothing or a badge/label that they can wear .... something to be "called" (as in "I'm a ....") ..... as opposed to something that they actually have to practice ....

Another interesting aspect to that is that some that claim it the hardest, and the most vociferously, often seem to be the least Christian in their words and deeds. Might even be one or two of them types hangin' 'round these parts .....

 

[RLENT]

All that was done was to exchange a ReBumLiCan for a Dumb-O-Crat. Nothing more. Neither party is out for YOUR best interest. When you learn that there MAY be a chance for REAL change. Till then, no change will come.

Layout - you get it.

It is very rare to find one in either party that are out, primarily, for the interests of the citizens and not just their own self-interest. There are only a very few .... probably count them on one or two hands .... and they are on both sides of the fence, politically speaking.

Most of the others, while they will occasionally act in the best interests of the citizens, it's not anything one can count on, nor is there any consistency - and it's often only when it somehow mirrors their own political self-interest.

 

[DougTravels]

In this case it reinforces the fact that he is not Christian in deed but in claim/word only.

You say it like its a bad thing. The last thing we need is a Prez praying for answers or help or pandering to the so called religious leaders.

I agree it is a ploy to voters, America is not yet ready for an openly atheist president. I think the last really christian prez was Carter, maybe Reagan but I don't really think he was a true believer either. If you want to be Prez you have to appear to be a christian, sad but true.

I will welcome the day when a man is judged by his actions, not which god he prays to.

 

[layoutshooter]

You say it like its a bad thing. The last thing we need is a Prez praying for answers or help or pandering to the so called religious leaders.

I agree it is a ploy to voters, America is not yet ready for an openly atheist president. I think the last really christian prez was Carter, maybe Reagan but I don't really think he was a true believer either. If you want to be Prez you have to appear to be a christian, sad but true.

I will welcome the day when a man is judged by his actions, not which god he prays to.

AND how about NOT by Party either? There is little difference between religion and the political parties. Is perjury a good enough reason NOT to vote for a man or keep him in office?

 

[dieseldiva]

This is just one of the countless illustrations to come of blacks being shocked and disappointed because they elected a black man to be president, largely on the basis that he's black. They heard Hope and Change, but they didn't see it, because they were blinded by the black. They want Hope and Change, and they figured that a black man would give that to them, on a silver platter, because they made the mistake of transferring their own thoughts, attitudes, wants, needs and desires to him, because he's black, he's one of us, he's just like me. Well, no he's not, he's a politician, just like the white ones. And they are having a real tough time dealing with that. More and more will begin to feel betrayed by him, even though it was their own illusions that will betray them, not Obama.

Star Parker just doesn't fit in the box that you describe above as illustrated........

Back on Uncle Sam's Plantation
Star Parker
Monday, February 09, 2009

Six years ago I wrote a book called "Uncle Sam's Plantation." I wrote the book to tell my own story of what I saw living inside the welfare state and my own transformation out of it.


I said in that book that indeed there are two Americas. A poor America on socialism and a wealthy America on capitalism.


I talked about government programs like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Job Opportunities and Basic Skills Training (JOBS), Emergency Assistance to Needy Families with Children (EANF), Section 8 Housing, and Food Stamps.


A vast sea of perhaps well intentioned government programs, all initially set into motion in the 1960's, that were going to lift the nation's poor out of poverty.


A benevolent Uncle Sam welcomed mostly poor black Americans onto the government plantation. Those who accepted the invitation switched mindsets from "How do I take care of myself?" to "What do I have to do to stay on the plantation?"


Instead of solving economic problems, government welfare socialism created monstrous moral and spiritual problems. The kind of problems that are inevitable when individuals turn responsibility for their lives over to others.


The legacy of American socialism is our blighted inner cities, dysfunctional inner city schools, and broken black families.
Through God's grace, I found my way out. It was then that I understood what freedom meant and how great this country is.


I had the privilege of working on welfare reform in 1996, passed by a Republican congress and signed into law by a Democrat president. A few years after enactment, welfare roles were down fifty percent.


I thought we were on the road to moving socialism out of our poor black communities and replacing it with wealth producing American capitalism.


But, incredibly, we are going in the opposite direction.
Instead of poor America on socialism becoming more like rich American on capitalism, rich America on capitalism is becoming like poor America on socialism.


Uncle Sam has welcomed our banks onto the plantation and they have said, "Thank you, Suh."


Now, instead of thinking about what creative things need to be done to serve customers, they are thinking about what they have to tell Massah in order to get their cash.


There is some kind of irony that this is all happening under our first black president on the 200th anniversary of the birthday of Abraham Lincoln.


Worse, socialism seems to be the element of our new young president. And maybe even more troubling, our corporate executives seem happy to move onto the plantation.


In an op-ed on the opinion page of the Washington Post, Mr. Obama is clear that the goal of his trillion dollar spending plan is much more than short term economic stimulus.


"This plan is more than a prescription for short-term spending-it's a strategy for America's long-term growth and opportunity in areas such as renewable energy, health care, and education."


Perhaps more incredibly, Obama seems to think that government taking over an economy is a new idea. Or that massive growth in government can take place "with unprecedented transparency and accountability."


Yes, sir, we heard it from Jimmy Carter when he created the Department of Energy, the Synfuels Corporation, and the Department of Education.


Or how about the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 -- The War on Poverty -- which President Johnson said "...does not merely expand old programs or improve what is already being done. It charts a new course. It strikes at the causes, not just the consequences of poverty."


Trillions of dollars later, black poverty is the same. But black families are not, with triple the incidence of single parent homes and out of wedlock births.


It's not complicated. Americans can accept Barack Obama's invitation to move onto the plantation. Or they can choose personal responsibility and freedom.


Does anyone really need to think about what the choice should be?

Copyright © 2009 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

You can find more articles by Star Parker HERE.


You can also educate yourself on the Black Conservative Movement HERE.....

 

[Turtle]

I'm familiar with Star Parker and where she stands on most issues. She is a regular commentator on C-SPAN on satellite radio, as well as a one of the main conservative political analysts on POTUS, XM Radio's political news channel, a channel that I listen to almost as much as MLB Home Plate. I'm also familiar with the fact that as part of the analyst panel on PUTUS the night of the election, Star Parker was also one of those who said, "Finally, our day has come" on the night that Obama was elected and could barely contain her emotion, something that she normally does very well. She softened it a great deal in that the "day" was not a conservative one, but still hit enough points to be placed squarely into the box above.