NPR Fires Juan Williams For Muslim Comment

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Another example of free speech not being "free" for all of us. If your speech lines up with that of the left then you're safe, if not.......there's a PRICE TO BE PAID.

I'm not Juan's biggest fan but this is over the top....the man made an honest comment about his feelings of discomfort when flying with Muslims on board the aircraft.

How did we ever get to the point where the taxpayer is funding NPR and it's so far to the left that they won't tolerate something like this?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
CAIR , the "unindicted co-conspirators in hamas funding cases"... They scream racist at comments like Juans when they are as racist as they come, but they cover themselves as a Muslim civil rights group.. don't anyone say anything about the muslums that they can raise hell about...you are a islamaphob and they will come after you...Then you get TPTB that don't want to offend and just like with Juan Williams (who i have no love loss for) sayes his opinion and CAIR wins ..... The Only one I have heard of that had fought back is Michael Savage....he is just wacked out enough to say what he thinks and doesn't give a d*mn and has taken them on....

HEY DIVA...check the BUTTOM of Michelle's article where the list of "See what others have said, Track Backs." Your thread is listed!!!
 
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witness23

Veteran Expediter
This is hilarious. Hey Juan.......I do not think you have to worry about a terrorist planning on bombing a flight to be dressed up in "Muslim garb" boarding a flight. I'm pretty sure that they would try to blend in as much as possible. What a maroon. I guess he has spent to much time hangin' with O'reilly and the Fox News bunch.

Link: NPR Fires Juan Williams Over Muslim Comment

(Newser) – NPR has axed commentator Juan Williams after he said that Muslims on his airline flights make him "nervous." Williams comments are "inconsistent with our editorial standards," said a statement from NPR. Williams made his remarks on Fox's The O'Reilly Factor as he discussed attitudes toward "political correctness" and how they "could lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality." He volunteered that whenever he sees someone in Muslim garb boarding his flight "I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims. I get worried. I get nervous." There was no immediate response from Williams, who is African American and has written extensively on the civil rights movement and race, notes the Los Angeles Times. CNN recently fired newscaster Rick Sanchez after he called Daily Show host Jon Stewart a bigot and claimed TV was heavily influenced by Jews.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I disagree with probably 98% of Juan Williams positions and comments but there was nothing wrong with what he said and he shouldn't have been fired for it.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
This is hilarious. Hey Juan.......I do not think you have to worry about a terrorist planning on bombing a flight to be dressed up in "Muslim garb" boarding a flight. I'm pretty sure that they would try to blend in as much as possible. What a maroon. I guess he has spent to much time hangin' with O'reilly and the Fox News bunch.

Link: NPR Fires Juan Williams Over Muslim Comment

I would try to explain the point of the post to you but I'm thinking it would fall on deaf ears so in lieu of that I will ask this question.....WTH is a "maroon"....oh wait, I know....

Why would you call one of "your own" something like this.......lib on lib crime, how nasty! :D

1ma·roon

noun \mə-ˈrün\
Definition of MAROON

1
: a fugitive black slave of the West Indies and Guiana in the 17th and 18th centuries; also : a descendant of such a slave

2
: a person who is marooned
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
I would try to explain the point of the post to you but I'm thinking it would fall on deaf ears so in lieu of that I will ask this question.....WTH is a "maroon"....oh wait, I know....

I'm all ears, explain away.

Why would you call one of "your own" something like this.......lib on lib crime, how nasty! :D

Nice try. You are something else, I tell ya. How about this, lets show all the definitions of Maroon:

–verb (used with object)
1. to put ashore and abandon on a desolate island or coast by way of punishment or the like, as was done by buccaneers.
2. to place in an isolated and often dangerous position: The rising floodwaters marooned us on top of the house.
3. to abandon and leave without aid or resources: Having lost all his money, he was marooned in the strange city.

–noun 4. ( often initial capital letter ) any of a group of blacks, descended from fugitive slaves of the 17th and 18th centuries, living in the West Indies and Guiana, esp. in mountainous areas.
5. a person who is marooned: Robinson Crusoe lived for years as a maroon.

World English Dictionary
maroon 1 (məˈruːn)

— vb
1. to leave ashore and abandon, esp on an island
2. to isolate without resources

— n
3. a descendant of a group of runaway slaves living in the remoter areas of the Caribbean or Guyana
4. informal ( US ), ( Canadian ) a person who has been marooned, esp on an island

maroon 2 (məˈruːn)

— n
1. a. a dark red to purplish-red colour
b. ( as adjective ): a maroon carpet
2. an exploding firework, esp one used as a warning signal

I guess you are not a fan of Bugs Bunny. If you were then you have this.

1. maroon

A term of derision often uttered by Bugs Bunny when referring to an interaction with a dopey adversary. It is a mispronunciation of the word "Moron"

"What a Maroon!" "Will ya get a load of this maroon"

But I can see why you thought I meant the definition you posted. *sarcasm*

BTW....how do you show sarcasm in posts.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Which one of the above definitions fits your use of the word "maroon" in describing Mr. Williams?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:= SARCASM.....How long have you posted here, not counting today?
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I heard the News this morning and thought "yea so what", but maybe a few of you missed something so I will fill you in.

NPR is what it is, it is radio for the elite and intelligentsia and part of the bigger problem with CPB. It was a poorly thought out experiment in balance which had run its course back in the 70s and sole purpose was to balance the programming out for the public because there was only 4 channels and a number of radio stations broadcasting talk. It is a failure from many points which is easily exposed and for shows like Sesame Street and Prairie Home Companion, CPB is their main source of revenue because these shows would not make it in the real world. Most of what you hear on NPR would not make it in any market outside of their world of public radio.

I agree with many who say it is time to end this madness of paying people from tax money in a world where we have a lot more choices than four channels. Between XM radio, Cable and the Internet, I can't even begin to use the resources available to any individual in this country and one more using tax payer funds seems to be out of touch with reality.

As for Williams, who cares, it isn't a free speech issue anyway - he knows it and so does NPR.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
As for Williams, who cares, it isn't a free speech issue anyway - he knows it and so does NPR.

Why wouldn't there be a question of free speech with the NPR being taxpayer, therefore government funded....and Mr. Williams is being censored?
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Why wouldn't there be a question of free speech with the NPR being taxpayer, therefore government funded....and Mr. Williams is being censored?

So you are essentially saying, if you work for NPR, you cannot be fired for something you say? How is he being censored?
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Why wouldn't his firing for something he said be considered a form of censorship?

He is free to say whatever he wants, just not for NPR anymore, for reasons given below.

NPR said in a statement that Williams' comments were "inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR." NPR had previously expressed discomfort with Williams' appearances on the Fox News Channel.
 
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dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
And so this government funded entity "owns" your thoughts and such if you're employed by them? They expressed "discomfort" with his appearances on Fox?? How ridiculous.

This political correctness bull crap from the left is way out of hand. Say anything you wish until you disagree with what "they" think is right!
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Link: National Public Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NPR, formerly National Public Radio,[1][2] is a privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization that serves as a national syndicator to 797 public radio stations in the United States of America.[

Funding
According to the 2005 financial statement, NPR makes just over half of its money from the fees and dues it charges member stations to receive programming. Public funding accounts for 16% of the average member station's revenue, with 10% of this coming in the form of grants from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a federally funded organization.[14][15][16] Some more of that money originates from local and state governments and government-funded universities subsidizing member stations' fees and dues to NPR.[17] Member stations that serve rural and "minority" communities receive significantly more funding from the CPB; in some cases up to 70%.[14] About 2% of NPR's non-membership created funding comes from bidding on government grants and programs, chiefly the Corporation for Public Broadcasting; the remainder comes from member station dues, foundation grants, and corporate underwriting. Typically, NPR member stations raise funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, and grants from state governments, universities, and the CPB itself.

Over the years, the portion of the total NPR budget that comes from government funding has decreased. During the 1970s and early 1980s, the majority of NPR funding came from the federal government. Steps were taken during the 1980s to completely wean NPR from government support, but the 1983 funding crisis forced the network to make immediate changes. More money to fund the NPR network was raised from listeners, charitable foundations and corporations, and less from the federal government.

Underwriting spots vs. commercials
In contrast with commercial radio, NPR does not carry traditional commercials, but has advertising in the form of brief statements from major donors, such as Allstate, Merck, and Archer Daniels Midland. These statements are called "underwriting spots", not commercials, and, unlike commercials, are governed by FCC restrictions; they cannot advocate a product or contain any "call to action". In 2005, corporate sponsorship made up 23% of the NPR budget.[18] NPR is not as dependent on revenue from underwriting spots as commercial stations are on revenue from advertising.[citation needed]

Joan Kroc Grant
On November 6, 2003, NPR was given over US$225 million from the estate of the late Joan B. Kroc, the widow of Ray Kroc, founder of McDonald's Corporation. This was a record—the largest monetary gift ever to a cultural institution.[19][20] For context, the 2003 annual budget of NPR was US$101 million. In 2004 that number increased by over 50% to US$153 million due to the Kroc gift. US$34 million of the money was deposited in its endowment.[21] The endowment fund before the gift totaled $35 million.[19] NPR will use the interest from the bequest to expand its news staff and reduce some member stations' fees.[citation needed] The 2005 budget was about US$120 million.

George Soros grantIn October 2010, NPR accepted a $1.8 million grant from George Soros, given through his Open Society Foundation.[22]
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
NO GOVERNMENT money for broadcasting. PERIOD. Far too much of a chance of a "Pravda" forming. Government has NO business in broadcast of news or editorial information, NO business in entertainment OR educational programing. That is NOT a function of government under our Constitution. It is NOT a function of government in a truly FREE country.
 
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