No experience or unit. How do I get started?

hiwaymirage

Active Expediter
So I'll try to keep this brief. I've been working in fields mostly unrelated to driving my whole life (I'm 26). Recently I decided to quit my job (I have a couple weeks left) and go on a long road trip around certain parts of the country. Just to get out on the open road, see things, etc. I plan on sleeping out of my car showering at truck stops, etc. I'm getting sick of my current job and want something better.

Just a few days ago it hit me that some sort of career/business/job in transportation would be great for me. I'll come to a decision for sure once I get back from my road trip, just in case I hate it or something (though I very much doubt I will). I understand the implications and risks of going into expedited driving and being self-employed, etc. But everything about it--working independently, working for myself and being my own boss, traveling across the country--sounds appealing to me. For various reasons, I'd rather not do a large rig, but a cargo van. At least for now.

If I got into it I would probably use my parents house for my "home", and stay out for quite a while at a time. Without having to pay rent and expenses like that, I'm thinking I could save up money over time to afford my own van. I understand that leasing out someone else's van means there's a 60/40 split or something like that. But with no mortgage, rent, children, or any other expenses, I'd basically be going into a business with very little overhead.

Of course, the main issue is, is it even possible to do this without any experience? I first stumbled upon alltypesexpediting.com, and got all excited because the sites talked about not necessarily needing experience to start off with cargo vans. Then I find out that All Types Expediting is basically a scam, and so who knows now with that expedite jobs online site. It seems like all of the listings I've seen so far that were legitimate (like Panther), all say the same thing: "Experience Required."

My question to you guys is, how did you get the experience back when you didn't have any? How did you break into the field? I'll be looking at craigslist for simple local delivery jobs that use cargo vans I suppose. It just seems a little goofy to get "experience" driving a cargo van, when driving a van isn't very difficult.

I technically have experience driving vehicles for work, but I'm sure it wouldn't count for anything on an application. For a while I worked as a caterer/delivery driver around my metro area. So I spent a lot of time driving interstates (there are 3 of them that go through my metro and that's what I mostly used), using my GPS to ensure I get there on time, etc. I used my own vehicle and not a company van though, darn it. Also, with one of the catering jobs I was an independent contractor, so I guess I already have some experience with that.

So going back to my question, how should I go about doing it? I'm already fairly confident in my driving abilities, navigational abilities, drive and ambition, etc. Should I go ahead and send out application anyways, just in case there are people out there willing to hire someone with no experience? Or should I just face the facts and get a few years experience with a local "van job?" Or something else?

I have no CDL, and I understand that it isn't needed for driving cargo vans. If it would help, I could get it. I'd ask what I would need to do in order to get the CDL, but I can do that research on my own.

As far as money goes, I have around $5000 in cash saved up. I'm guessing that would be enough to be comfortable starting up. I know I could probably find a van out there for $4000, but I understand how it would be risky going into it with my bank account blown out.

So anyways, any help would be appreciated.
 
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EasyDoesIt

Active Expediter
Take your trip then decide. Why waste time applying for jobs you may not want. When someone advertises for a job they are trying to find a driver that is committed to making money for both driver and owner.
 

BigCat

Expert Expediter
Panther doesn't require experience for cargo vans and straight trucks. Check out a few carrier's websites and see which one is a better fit for you. At that point look for owners with those carriers and discuss details and get references for current and previous drivers. Find out why the previous drivers left. Then make a decision and go make money.


Jake
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
What's "my metro" ? (if you are right there in the middle of things, you are already ahead of the game). answering that question will help us help you.
normally we don't recommends 'driving for an owner 1st' in a cargo van, do to the low revenue for the split.
however, in your case, it's looks like you can do your homework to 'weed out' the bad owners.
IF you can find a good owner, maybe you can 'guarantee 4 months of service'. just present yourself in a professional manners, and be willing to be a 'yes man', for just a few months.
you'd be amassed how many van owners are stuck with a vacant van out there.
best place to start is your carrier of choice recruiting, they can get you some phone #'s.
also look here in the classifieds .
BTW, loves that screen name !, welcome & good luck.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Welcome to the forums and good luck on your road trip. I gotta tell you though, you post gave me a real laugh! That line about your 'whole life' at age 26 just cracked me up! NOT being mean, it is just at my age, 61, that is just FUNNY! My YOUNGEST son is 6 years older than you!

You are just starting out. Spend a LOT of time reading past posts. Learn from them. One friendly suggestion. Next time don't quite a job till you have another, unless your life or health is in danger. That goes double when unemployment is as high as it is. Even a job you hate is better than none.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I think Moose makes some good points: every case is different, and this wannabe seems to have a basic understanding of what's required: low overhead, and a willingness to stay out long enough to make money, and [most important!] a bit of reserve cash just in case [even not owning the vehicle costs the driver if/when it's down for repairs]
I'd advise against a road trip that involves sleeping in a car, though - been there, done that, woke up with a stiff neck every time.
;)
 

EasyDoesIt

Active Expediter
Let him sleep in the car for a couple of weeks. When he gets in a bare bones van he will think he hit the lottery.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I agree in theory, but in reality, it's tough to drive [not to mention unsafe] when you can't turn your head!
 

ebsprintin

Veteran Expediter
You'll find information on researching the forum in my signature line.

My standard reply related to starting in a van is to sell your personal vehicle and buy a van with the proceeds. If vanning doesn't work out, you still have a place to live, and you can still deliver pizzas.

eb
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I have to agree with Layoutshooter, 26 and your life flashing before your eyes. I love hearing young people say stuff like that. Gives a 65 year old a good daily chuckle. Better be careful after your in Expediting for say half a dozen years your life has flashed before your eyes.
Start out with an owner and drive for them as was said before. Get to know the ropes, ask questions, make EO a daily read and find out whats going on. Lots of people on the site, maybe not joining in but they are reading and keeping up with whats going on. Only the strong survive and the first couple of years you will find out just how strong you are. Good luck.
 

wvcourier

Expert Expediter
I would bypass driving for an owner, if you trully want to be your own boss, buy that cargo van for 4000, make sure you have your mechanic look it over. The other 1000 should be more then enough, if you sign with a carrier that has a quick pay program...my carrier pays 55 percent on Comdata card, as soon as I leave the shipper. Also, make sure you keep Pro Active maintance on your van, maybe get tune up, new tires ect...with your first few paychecks...why take that car trip, when someone will pay you to take that trip.

Dont steal, the government hates competition. ~Ron Paul~
 

BigCat

Expert Expediter
A grand may not be enough if you get out on the west coast and have engine failure. Work and build money then buy van. Let those mechanical problems be someone else's baby til you have sufficient funds to replace needed parts.


Jake
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I would suggest that, at 26, you look into something that will give you a career. You cannot raise a family as a driver in expediting. Look into an apprentiship or something more likely to provide you with a life long income. Just my suggestion. 26 is young, but it is time to start long term thinking
 

BigCat

Expert Expediter
I would suggest that, at 26, you look into something that will give you a career. You cannot raise a family as a driver in expediting. Look into an apprentiship or something more likely to provide you with a life long income. Just my suggestion. 26 is young, but it is time to start long term thinking

Agreed!


Jake
 

wvcourier

Expert Expediter
Dont let them scare you off, with your situation..., no kids, no bills, ect..you could thrive out here....but if you have five grand invest it in yourself...dont waste your time working for peanuts for a fleet owner.

Dont steal, the government hates competition. ~Ron Paul~
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I agree somewhat with Courier about having a burning desire to go it alone. What I don't agree with is $1K is nothing. Tags, Insurance, Expenses, it won't cover it. You get in the habit of running and living off of advances, you will fail. Once your behind the proverbial 8 ball it's mighty hard to turn it around. Good luck.
 
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