NJ Governor Chris Christie.... good news/bad news

aristotle

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Bad news first, looks like Christie will be delivering the keynote address at the GOP nominating convention next month.

Good news, if true that Christie gives keynote address, then he will not be the VP nominee.
 

Brisco

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Does it really matter who the running mate is?

It would if Christie was the running mate!!!

Can you imagine the Greatness that would be Restored in this Country if we could have Christie there in the White House for the next 16 years??? (8 as VP and 8 as the Prez!!)

They would make a new Mt Rushmore dedicated to Christie himself if this Dream would come true!!
 

Turtle

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John Adams, the first to hold the job, called it "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived." It's relevance hasn't changed much over the years.

But, I think Dan Quayle stated it best when he said, "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice-president, and that one word is to "be prepared"".
 

Ragman

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Does it really matter who the running mate is?

It could. :rolleyes:


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aristotle

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Does it really matter who the running mate is?
Given that the election will probably be very close in several battleground states, the selection of a running mate can make the difference. With Romney understood to be a Northeastern moderate GOP'er, he would be wise to seek a Southern conservative giving regional and philosophical balance to the ticket. Conservatives are already leery and unenthusiastic about Romney. Choosing a solid conservative would shore-up his bonafides with the base. Romney isn't exactly one of us(conservatives) but is widely seen as an improvement over Obama.
 

Turtle

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Given that the election will probably be very close in several battleground states, the selection of a running mate can make the difference.
That's because voters are, chiefly, stupid, and think who the vice-president is makes a difference. It's the most irrelevant job there is. The few times he gets to sit at the big person's table for dinner, they still don't give him anything sharper than a butter knife. Choosing a solid conservative, whatever that means, isn't going to make one wit of difference in Romney The President. THe vice-president makes no policy and has very little say in it. Those who are already leery and unenthusiastic about Romney should remain so, regardless of who his running mate is, because once the election is over, it's all Romney.
 

aristotle

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That's because voters are, chiefly, stupid, and think who the vice-president is makes a difference. It's the most irrelevant job there is. The few times he gets to sit at the big person's table for dinner, they still don't give him anything sharper than a butter knife. Choosing a solid conservative, whatever that means, isn't going to make one wit of difference in Romney The President. THe vice-president makes no policy and has very little say in it. Those who are already leery and unenthusiastic about Romney should remain so, regardless of who his running mate is, because once the election is over, it's all Romney.

As I recall, Vice-President Dick Cheney was influential with regards to policy in the Bush administration. Cheney was Bush 43's closest advisor. Cheney gave gravitas to Bush's skeptics within the GOP. Cheney was and is a serious man who inspires confidence. To be fair, I felt the same way when Lloyd Bentsen was chosen by the Democrats years ago. Lloyd Bentsen had that aura of wisdom, experience and steadiness.
 

Brisco

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That's because voters are, chiefly, stupid, and think who the vice-president is makes a difference. It's the most irrelevant job there is. The few times he gets to sit at the big person's table for dinner, they still don't give him anything sharper than a butter knife. Choosing a solid conservative, whatever that means, isn't going to make one wit of difference in Romney The President. THe vice-president makes no policy and has very little say in it. Those who are already leery and unenthusiastic about Romney should remain so, regardless of who his running mate is, because once the election is over, it's all Romney.

I agree with this somewhat......But......considering the upcoming election......we really need a good running mate to go with Romney to at least have a chance for recovery and prosperity to be restored here in America. I could really care less if it was a Romney/Clinton ticket, a Romney/Jerry Springer ticket, a Romney/Britney Spears ticket.....as long as we get the current Jack Weed out of office.

Period......
 

muttly

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Does it really matter who the running mate is?

Yes. Here is an example. Last week Condileeza Rice was rumored as a favorite to be the V.P.
Many were in a uproar because she was pro choice. Picking her would have caused a low turnout from evangelicals. Picking someone like Marco Rubio would create even more enthusiasm from conservatives, help with the latino vote , and would bring in a lot of fundraising money.
 

muttly

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It would if Christie was the running mate!!!

Can you imagine the Greatness that would be Restored in this Country if we could have Christie there in the White House for the next 16 years??? (8 as VP and 8 as the Prez!!)

They would make a new Mt Rushmore dedicated to Christie himself if this Dream would come true!!



Not quite as enthused about Christie as you are. Mt Rushmore? Who wants to volunteer in the mamoth undertaking to do ALL the chiseling. I mean I want to meet that crew.:D Many conservatives considered him a bit of a RINO. He's done some good things like cut spending and take on the government unions. Many think he wimped out though in not joining the Obamacare lawsuit,which many others states signed. All it would have taken was a signature,but he basically said he was too busy. Pretty lame imo.
 

Turtle

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Yes. Here is an example. Last week Condileeza Rice was rumored as a favorite to be the V.P.
Many were in a uproar because she was pro choice. Picking her would have caused a low turnout from evangelicals. Picking someone like Marco Rubio would create even more enthusiasm from conservatives, help with the latino vote , and would bring in a lot of fundraising money.
Kinda proves my point that voters are, chiefly, just butt stoopid. For single issue voters in general elections, they're not chiefly butt stoopid, they're absolutely butt stoopid. Rice's position on abortion will not have any impact on Romney's, or anyone else's. Neither will Rubio's positions have any impact. If Rice were the vice-president, it wouldn't signal the immediate end to the fighting of Roe v. Wade, anymore than Rubio's postions will mean conservative mana from heaven. I don't deny that voters can be swayed, led and duped into casting their all-important vote based on something that's not important, but once all the voting is over, we're still left with Romney, the whole Romney, and nothing but the Romney, so help me Joseph.
 

BobWolf

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Im sure Christie wont want the V.P. I would rather see him as Comander and Chief with an attitude and Romney as V.P. his good looks for the image. Either was lets get Obumer out of the white house and in a prison cell before any more dammage to our country is done.
 

muttly

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Kinda proves my point that voters are, chiefly, just butt stoopid. For single issue voters in general elections, they're not chiefly butt stoopid, they're absolutely butt stoopid. Rice's position on abortion will not have any impact on Romney's, or anyone else's. Neither will Rubio's positions have any impact. If Rice were the vice-president, it wouldn't signal the immediate end to the fighting of Roe v. Wade, anymore than Rubio's postions will mean conservative mana from heaven. I don't deny that voters can be swayed, led and duped into casting their all-important vote based on something that's not important, but once all the voting is over, we're still left with Romney, the whole Romney, and nothing but the Romney, so help me Joseph.
Regarding Rice, it is more than just being pro choice. She served in the Bush administration for eight years and rightly or wrongly would be hammered for it and cause too much of a distraction.
True, the electorate can be dumb. I will say though that voters vote for who they want to be President and also they vote for the ticket. The ticket has to appeal to their views and ideology.
If someone wants to vote for the marxist/socialist ticket vote for Obama/Biden. If someone wants to vote for the free market capitalist ticket vote for Romney/insert conservative here.
According to the poll I posted in the link roughly 75% think the pick of the V.P. matters.Poll: VP choice matters to most voters - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 

Tennesseahawk

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Not always true, Muttly, about voting for who you want as pres. Last time, I voted for the wench, not the corpse. Now, it's going to take a lot more than a pair of conservative boobs to get me to vote Republican. I will NOT vote for RINO Romney.
 

BobWolf

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Yeah if Rice were to run she would be the new Palin
 
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BobWolf

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So, you would rather see our country become a socialist dictatorship regime guarenteed within the next three four years instead of posably and I know that is a longshot, but posably getting back on track to being the country our grand parents and great grand parents fought for? I will hold my nose and vote Romney.
 
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