New Exctr. rules and F.S.C.

[D Team Brothers]

The new exctr. or layover rules have extended the miles not paid from 50 to 75 for DH and now will not pay the FSC for the first 25 miles. In 2007 FECC passed the entire FSC on to the trucks, but then changes and began keeping an unknown portion of what the customer pays in FSC. FECC stated this keeping of some of the FSC would allow them to begin paying FSC on all DH miles and money to cover all DH miles after the first 50. They also said they would begin paying all tolls. My question is: will FECC now revert back to passing on the complete FSC to the trucks?
It seems they are eliminating all to reasons for keeping any portion of the FSC, except increasing THEIR profit margin.

 

[LDB]

So no dhpl pay and no fsc on the first 25 miles of dhpu either. Boy, when they decide to devolve to no better than most others they don't fool around. They're going to actually deserve the negativity some people direct toward them. It's really very sad they've gone from one of the very best to just another one.

 

[denny2010]

Its all about them....

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[jjoerger]

To us it's always been about the all mileage rate. DHPL, DHPU, Loaded, FSC, etc. It's all the same. There is a certain rate "all miles" we are looking for. If we get it we run the load. If we don't we politely decline.

 

[denny2010]

I did the all miles rate also. Seemed to make the most sense. Then just say no, if not the rate. Soon most times the phone or Qualcomm would ring again. If not it was time to relax and wait.

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[TeamCaffee]

What I am doing is keeping a spreadsheet as well as a note book that is easily accessible, when a load is offered I look at my notebook and see my dead head miles and then add those miles to the loaded miles offered. I can then look at the total pay and divide my miles into this and get the pay per mile.

Then I can make an educated decision on what loads I will accept or reject.

 

[LDB]

I agree it's the all miles number. It's just sad going from a company that used to be more pro-driver than most other companies to a company that's screw the driver however you can like most of the rest of the companies. That's a big step down and FX has descended from it's position of leadership to the general nothingness of the masses.

 

[NTHEWIND]

We unloaded near Seattle last week and when the 'layover' came over the c-link it said there was NO layover planned. We could go home or where ever we wanted but no pay what so ever.

 

[jimby82]

No layover in Toronto last Thursday. Going to have to take the possibility into account when looking at load opps.

 

[jjoerger]

We assume that there will not be a layover planned when evaluating a load opp. Then if we get one it will be a surprise bonus.

 

[layoutshooter]

No layover option from Halifax, NS either. As a result, no more runs to NS without a MUCH higher rate. It is what it is. There were always be a jack weed willing to take them.

Burned once, shame on them, twice, shame on me. There won't be a second shot.

 

[jimby82]

Have friends that took a load to Edmonton. No layover.

Should become increasingly difficult for FDCC to cover these loads to "nowhere", as it looks like they'll not going to give a layover on many of them.

Just have to figure the deadhead out to a decent area into the original rate. Of course, not everyone will do this, and the loads will get covered. At the lower rate. In the end, we all lose.

 

[ChanceMaster]

Just discussing this with the truck owner. No layover option given in North Platte, NE. Will now look harder at deliveries that are in the middle of nowhere.

 

[usafk9]

Have friends that took a load to Edmonton. No layover.

Should become increasingly difficult for FDCC to cover these loads to "nowhere", as it looks like they'll not going to give a layover on many of them.

Just have to figure the deadhead out to a decent area into the original rate. Of course, not everyone will do this, and the loads will get covered. At the lower rate. In the end, we all lose.

To be fair, I don't think a 'southern' layover has ever been an option in the western provinces. Edmonton delivery was always an Edmonton layover. That usually was no good, unless we started pulling oil tankers. It was explained to us once that pricing for those customers had that built in.

 

[jimby82]

To be fair, I don't think a 'southern' layover has ever been an option in the western provinces. Edmonton delivery was always an Edmonton layover. That usually was no good, unless we started pulling oil tankers. It was explained to us once that pricing for those customers had that built in.

I know the one time we went to Edmonton, we were given a Minneapolis layover. I cannot remember if that was part of the load acceptance negotiation, or if it was given once we unloaded.
Delivered to Havre, MT. once and was given Seattle. Never really taken any other loads into the "boonies", so not sure about those.

We will be building the deadhead back to a "decent" freight area into our future offers. If the load don't pay our desired rate, we won't be hauling it. There's plenty of good paying freight out there (at least for the time being!) We'll wait.

 

[ChanceMaster]

We are on a Load now that picked up in Houston, TX and delivers to Ft. Nelson, BC . We calculated a fair Per mile rate that will allow us paid DH to Seattle once we deliver. So now it has become one more equation to figure when accepting or countering a load opportunity.

 

[usafk9]

We are on a Load now that picked up in Houston, TX and delivers to Ft. Nelson, BC . We calculated a fair Per mile rate that will allow us paid DH to Seattle once we deliver. So now it has become one more equation to figure when accepting or countering a load opportunity.

Watch out for the deer and moose.

No, really - watch out for the deer and moose.