New 1-ton super b/9600lbs

[BULLRUSH]

Couldn't be happier!!!! Since Aug-20th i have grossed just over 23k and over 50% were super B loads big differnces from a 1-ton cargo vans that i had. Been with LEA since Oct-97. The going was good but now its Fantasic ps AUG- 4.7k SEPT-11.8k OCT-so far-6.8k

 

[Benzoid]

Maybe a dumb question but....

What is a Super B ?

Do you have photos?

Thanks!

 

[BULLRUSH]

Bigger then a standard cargo-van. Ford/Chevy-box truck,Sprinter van.I have a ford super duty 9600lbs box truck

 

[chefdennis]

a single wheel cube van??? I mean my 05 long wheelbase GMC is 9600 GVW, just can't get anything over the standard 48" load in, other then that its all good......

 

[BULLRUSH]

Single 70 high /68 wide

 

[chefdennis]

Motor and mileage? Is the roof an "areo" roof over the cab and is it cut out so you can standup in the cab? Is the ft wall of the box cut out and moved back or is it in the std position with the walk thru door?

Since I have decided that i won't be buying a ST, I am considering a cube...either a 9600 or the dualie 10,000 gvw....

Also what length is the floor, swing out doors or rollup?

 

[Jack_Berry]

cd before you go crazy with his pay remember lea pays about twice what bolt does. after purchasing nlm their miles seem to have gone up in auto related loads. makes one wonder why other companies do not offer the same rate to their o/o.

 

[chefdennis]

Nooooo Jack!! no questioning his pay at all..i know others pay more then bolt in alot of instances....my questions are strictly about how best to use which truck.....

as a matter of fact, Jack i know you have seen those ford units , i think the "armadillo's" or something like that...that high top high door ford that sits at Bi-States truck in toledo....would you rather run in that , a 9600 gvw srw cube (not availablle with a long box), or a 10,000 gvw DRW witha 14 ft box???? Greg & Moot i think both of you have seen this unit also... anyone else? any thoughts would be appreciated....

 

[guido4475]

I am really considering a cube/box as well.But it will add to the cost per mile as far as less fuel mileage, tires, etc.So I am not 100% convinced yet.

 

[greg334]

I am really considering a cube/box as well.But it will add to the cost per mile as far as less fuel mileage, tires, etc.So I am not 100% convinced yet.

I am thinking that if you are on a fix rate contract, then any cutaway may not be worth the trouble. At 80 cents a mile and with the added cost of fuel needed to go the same distance, the limited weight you can carry and a little higher maintenance cost, it may cost just enough that you will need a buck a mile to make anything decent.

 

[guido4475]

I am thinking that if you are on a fix rate contract, then any cutaway may not be worth the trouble. At 80 cents a mile and with the added cost of fuel needed to go the same distance, the limited weight you can carry and a little higher maintenance cost, it may cost just enough that you will need a buck a mile to make anything decent.

That's excactly what I was thinking, also,My girlfreind just mentioned also we would have to log in anything over 10,000 gvw.

 

[chefdennis]

both ford and gm offer drw cubes right at 10,000 gvw, so no logging is needed. but greg is right in that just running b loads for b money can't justify the minimal pickup in gvw and payload....you would have to get a mimimumof a sprinter rate,,,,,and is that rate that much more and would it be paid on all load, even std b loads....i know with bolt the increase would only be on loads that couldn't go in a cv.....

 

[dushuai]

Very huge buddie that is very nice

 

[greg334]

Well the other thing that pops up is how much can you really carry on a regular basis. How much bulky light stuff does one get now that can't fit into a cv or even a sprinter?

So let's play a little comparison that I just got done playing with:

I have worked the operating cost with a sprinter 3500 chassis and a custom 14 foot box and that combination actually works out almost the same as if I would go with a GMC with the same size box but made by Morgan. The lower mileage with the GMC compared to the little higher cost of maintenance on the sprinter is about even, so if you get the 19mpg with the sprinter, the GMC may be the better choice.

BUT

The sprinter chassis is less than 4500lbs curb weight, about a 1000 lbs less than the GMC, the box weight is also about 600 lbs less than the box on the GMC, so with a 9990 sprinter chassis and box, I now can haul more which means I make more.

Now here is the kicker, the up front cost is a lot more with the sprinter, at least 10k more. I have an estimate for the box, it is custom but it cost a little more than the Morgan, by $1100.

 

[RLENT]

....i know with bolt the increase would only be on loads that couldn't go in a cv.....

Not at all necessarily always the case in my experience ..... although I would certainly say it is much more likely to be the exception rather than the rule ......

I've had loads that I could load with one hand that have paid very, very well ....... and not all that long ago .....

 

[Jack_Berry]

hey greg, what did you estimate for mpg for the sprinter 3500? how tall and wide a box for the sprinter? like the box from unicell?

bullrush...is that a new truck or did you buy packmules truck?

 

[greg334]

hey greg, what did you estimate for mpg for the sprinter 3500? how tall and wide a box for the sprinter? like the box from unicell?

The older 5 cylinder engine gets about 19, the newer v6 it is about 16, from everyone I talked to. The 3500 chassis I had here to play with was a 2006 and that got something in the range of 28 without anything on it. I measured a few of the boxes and they are about 72 high inside (not including the door) and 80 wide, you can barely fit two skids in it. The only one I have seen wider is one that is used by a florist which is 90 wide for the shelving but the driver told me it was hard to handle with the wide body and the wind catching the sides that stick out - in other words the box from the roof up and the sides all added to the wind resistance.

I have tried to talk to Unicell but I got a p*ss poor response (bad attitude) to any questions I asked them so I turned to another company who is willing to work with me and with the materials I want to use to build the box for either a Sprinter or a GMC. I would like to try a sprinter, in my situation it may work out great but on the other hand I am forgetting my german and can't swear at it like I had to with my volkswagens to get them going again. If I go with a GMC, it will be a 10k 158" WB with a 55 gallon tank and SRW.

 

[Jack_Berry]

cd,t there is a used truck in the classifieds that is cube, sleeper, kohler wired and tank fed gen, heater and ac, micro, coffee pot already to go . it has a few miles on it but the install was very tidy. saw it at expo. fella named ray is selling it. it has a few more miles than my truck so i don't think i will be buying up.

 

[guido4475]

If only my van was about 12" wider, 24" longer, I would be happy.

 

[robh2]

I know this is older, but I have been wondering about the boxes like uhaul has that has the cabover area. You could put a bed up there and only block off a few feet of the box for living space instead of a full 5 feet like may are doing.

Anyone seen or tried that idea? I think that on a sprinter cutaway would be great.

Thanks.

Robert