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greg334

greg334

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I caught this article and almost vomited.

News from The Associated Press

Here are what the writer claims as their accomplishments.

Making college loans more affordable.

Let's try instead to find out why college costs so much in the first place. Then let's start cutting the funding to a lot of them through off the wall grants.

The Cash for Clunkers program that helped rejuvenate the auto industry.

Didn't see to really help, did it? Maybe because the auto industry wasn't suffering as they made it out but instead two companies were because of mis-management and bad products.

New consumer protections for credit card users.

Like really, let's just enforce the laws.

Making it easier for women to challenge pay discrimination.

Here is a big crock, what is the EEOC there for?
Maybe changing the regulations the EEOC operates under and enforce the laws instead.

Increasing federal regulation of tobacco products.

Not important, especially with people being out of work and no hope in sight for a lot of them.

Cracking down on waste in Pentagon weapons acquisition.

Not as important as getting the economy back on track.

Making attacks based on sexual orientation a federal hate crime.

Another thought police law we don't need.

Giving businesses tax incentives to hire unemployed workers.

Did it help?

Tax credits for first-time homeowners.

It also didn't help.

I am trying to figure out why anyone would even consider this productive. If the economy improved, if we didn't add so much debt, and congress acted as adults, then ok it may have been.
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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Funny the report makes no mention of the banks bailout?

I think the home owners tax credit actually was a good thing...there was just no follow up...10[s of 1,000's of homes were sold during this time...and then when it vanished so did the buyers...and it just appears to have done no good...IF the economy did pick up it would have been more effective...BUT the state and federal gov. did not follow up.....to just throw a program out there with no support or game plan was just a waste of money that added to the deficit and made things worse...
 
chefdennis

chefdennis

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This list is nothing but progressive liberal BS. As for the Home credit, the housing market has in no way improved because of this assitances unless you consider that, 'well its better then it would have been" and worthwhile thing..bad is bad and it going to get worse....

Now lets see:

Making college loans more affordable:

a fed gov take over of a program that worked just fine , but the fed now has the power to control who gets what for finacial help and in the futrue what classes kids will be able to take...we need more doctors in the area where there are large low income familie, you can have the money, but you have to agree to go to work where we tell you to for a certain amount of time...

The Cash for Clunkers program that helped rejuvenate the auto industry:
Yet it helped the FOREIGN auto companies...

New consumer protections for credit card users:

Yeap, another liberal program to protect the people from themselves...no one forces people to get or use credit cards....

Making it easier for women to challenge pay discrimination:

Another law put in place just to say we did something and to appease 'special interest groups', instead of enforcing the laws that are on the books...

Increasing federal regulation of tobacco products:

Again the libs protecting people from themselves, no one can make the right decisions on their own, they need the Fed gov to do it for them...

Cracking down on waste in Pentagon weapons acquisition:

The continued weakening of our military through budgetary constraints and cuts..leave your hands off the Military

Making attacks based on sexual orientation a federal hate crime:

More garbage..hate crimes are simply crimes, enforce the laws that are already on the books...more bs to pander to the "special interest" groups...

Giving businesses tax incentives to hire unemployed workers:

What a joke, 1st business owners are going to hire UN-NEED worker when their product or service isn't in demand just because the fed gov gives then a TAX Break....and can anyone show me where this type of use of tax dollars is Constitutional......


Tax credits for first-time homeowners:

More BS use of TAX dollars, and it didn't work either...

Notice a pattern here/ nothing but ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS.....
 
LDB

LDB

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That link goes to a U.S. map not to an article. Without even reading it, I'm sure it's typical liberal claptrap.
 
greg334

greg334

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OVM,
Amity Shlaes wrote a great piece in Imprimus this month about the history of the depression and the game Monopoly. It is not yet in the archives.

For many it will explain a great deal of what happened then and now (and show you what will happen) plus it adds the reasoning behind the game's economics at the same time.

Do you subscribe?
 
greg334

greg334

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LDB said:
That link goes to a U.S. map not to an article. Without even reading it, I'm sure it's typical liberal claptrap.
Click to expand...

Checked the link twice, goes right to the AP frame with the Detroit News form of the article. The AP has some new crappy rules they are enforcing about redistribution - something like taking the fair use statue out and shooting it.
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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greg334 said:
OVM,
Amity Shlaes wrote a great piece in Imprimus this month about the history of the depression and the game Monopoly. It is not yet in the archives.

For many it will explain a great deal of what happened then and now (and show you what will happen) plus it adds the reasoning behind the game's economics at the same time.

Do you subscribe?
Click to expand...

No..I don't....should I...?

Ya see us immigrants the NEW Americans mostly come from more say liberal backgrounds...so I suppose there is not as many of you functional Ole farts still around to swing the vote back to how you think the country should be....entitlement is a core component to many new citizens..they like the so called perks...
 
greg334

greg334

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Yes subscribe, you can afford it.

Yeah but it isn't liberal thing you have, that's a sickness.

You are bringing European style socialism to the country, and that is a bit different from the "I am a liberal, therefore I hate my country" kind of mentality.

Leo, Sorry about that, there seems to be something within EO that messed it up. Thanks chef for the corrected link.
 
chefdennis

chefdennis

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I have been getting Imprimus mailed home for about 2 yrs, since hearing about it on Mark Levins show...And yea OVM, you can afford it !!1

BUT, the Libs won't like it. Hillsdale College is a VERY Conservative school, soo conserative that they take NO Fed funding and their students use NO Fed Grants....Oh and all students MUST take a class on the Constitution, Declaration of Indepedence and the Bill of Rights before they can graduate....
 
chefdennis

chefdennis

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LOL, Hey I'll "get you a subscription to it if you get me a jar of "PICKLES".....:D

And your Sis In Law might enjoy reading it too!!!
 
Turtle

Turtle

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Greg, the link you posted came across as

[noparse]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PROLIFIC_CONGRESS/[/noparse]

That it sends you to the Detroit News version of the article clearly is a result of you having a Keebler Elf working hard for you. :D


This one just kills me....

"Gridlock? It may feel that way. But that's not the story of the 111th Congress — not the story history will remember."

Feels that way to whom? I don't know of anyone who thinks having the President being of the same political party as the majority in the House and the Senate could even remotely be considered Gridlock. To idiots who read the story (you know, liberals), they'll read that, and then the rest of the story, and they'll remember how this Congress and this President managed to work together to overcome the normalcy of Gridlock. What a hoot.

With the playing field tilted so dramatically in their favor, this Congress should have completed everything on the list in about 5 months, since everything on it has been sitting there for years waiting to be acted upon. What they accomplished is pretty thin as it is insofar as substance, but the sheer volume of what they accomplished it pretty pathetic.

Even the good stuff, like credit card protections, don't go anywhere near far enough, and the reason credit card protections are needed at all is because Congress let the banks run wild in the first place. Nearly everything on the list addresses something that needed to be addressed, because the government had the major hand in letting it (or causing it) get to the point where it needed to be addressed.
 
greg334

greg334

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That is the link they gave me when I asked about fair use.

Well the one I have been waiting for is the Identity Theft issue being addressed.

They did nothing at all, not even consider any move towards putting some simply regulations for the card companies to follow.

If they did that, then I would consider that they did something.

Oh wait, they did, they passed a law telling schools that they can't inflate text book prices. well still nothing.
 
LDB

LDB

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Maybe this is the most productive congress after all. Perhaps producing good legislation isn't mandatory, just quantity. If so, they've certainly produced record amounts of garbage and may qualify as most productive based on their copious quantities of trash.
 
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