More to it?

layoutshooter

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This is a really strange story. Why did this woman try to run down the border patrol agent? IF it happened as written the husband should not be asking why the agent shot his wife, he SHOULD be asking why she ran into him. It seems like there has to be more to it. The agent could shoot, even under extreme circumstances. Has anyone heard any more on this one?




[h=1]Calif. woman fatally shot after allegedly driving into border patrol agent[/h]

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a 32-year-old woman in the suburban San Diego area after she allegedly hit a Border Patrol agent with her car.


Investigators said Valeria Alvarado ran down the agent with her car as border patrol agents were in a Chula Vista neighborhood to serve a felony warrant on Friday.


The agent said he had no choice but to defend himself and fired at Alvarado get her to stop the car.


Alvarado was hit by five bullets.


According to eye witnesses, the shooting left the mother of five with bullet holes in her face, arms, and chest.


"She literally ran our agent down, the agent actually was impacted, was hit by the vehicle and carried several hundred yards on the hood before fearing for his life did discharge his weapon to get the vehicle to stop," said Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott.


Alvarado's husband, Gilbert Alvarado said he wants the shooting investigated.


"I want justice. Yes. Whoever shot my wife, that guy whoever that is, that guy needs to get shot," he said.


Alvarado's family called the killing senseless.


"Where's the evidence that my wife threatened a trained officer? You know? He's a trained officer to use lethal force, shoot my wife like that and just not even call an ambulance?" said Gilbert Alvarado.


The FBI and Chula Vista Police are investigating the shooting. Officials have not released the name of the agent involved in the incident.



Calif. woman fatally shot after allegedly driving into border patrol agent - Yahoo! News
 

OntarioVanMan

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well it only just happened on Friday....the investigation is probably ongoing....but it sounds like a justified shooting....witnesses are just a tad bias....
 

layoutshooter

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well it only just happened on Friday....the investigation is probably ongoing....but it sounds like a justified shooting....witnesses are just a tad bias....

On San Diego paper is saying the agent was hit so hard he was stuck on the windshield. Picture sure looks like damage from a body hitting the windshield, besides the bullets holes.
 

Ragman

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I don't quite understand how some people just assume the cop, sherrif, agent . . . (take your pick), must automatically be the guilty one.

Sure sounds like a good shoot to me (but who am I?).
 

AMonger

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I don't quite understand how some people just assume the cop, sherrif, agent . . . (take your pick), must automatically be the guilty one.

Sure sounds like a good shoot to me (but who am I?).

Because of the shift in the nature of police and policing. Cops get away with murder, quite frequently all-too-literally. He's given a paid vacation while a sham investigation is conducted (by the cops themselves), followed by what we all knew was coming: an announcement by the Chief or sheriff that he acted within department policy. Then the victim is painted as the aggressor and the cop as a White Knight who's never so much as passed gas or burped in public, who was busy reading to the blind and helping little old ladies across the street when the dead citizen assaulted the cop's bullets by running into them. Then the cop gets a medal and a promotion.

Assuming the cop is automatically wrong is in reaction to seeing that time and time again. Treat people like dogs, eventually they'll bite. That's what you're witnessing in the comments section.
 

layoutshooter

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Forgetting that cops are targets for every sorry butt scum sucker out there is just as bad. MOST cops are doing the job as required.

It is not only cops who are targets. In Detroit they OFTEN shoot at firefighters, EMT's, Paramedics, etc when they respond to calls. The scumbags even call in false reports to get them into shooting range.

There is MORE than enough blame to go around.
 

Ragman

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Because of the shift in the nature of police and policing. Cops get away with murder, quite frequently all-too-literally. He's given a paid vacation while a sham investigation is conducted (by the cops themselves), followed by what we all knew was coming: an announcement by the Chief or sheriff that he acted within department policy. Then the victim is painted as the aggressor and the cop as a White Knight who's never so much as passed gas or burped in public, who was busy reading to the blind and helping little old ladies across the street when the dead citizen assaulted the cop's bullets by running into them. Then the cop gets a medal and a promotion.

Assuming the cop is automatically wrong is in reaction to seeing that time and time again. Treat people like dogs, eventually they'll bite. That's what you're witnessing in the comments section.

I can't debate you on this, but just wonder what's your take on this situation?
 

Turtle

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Witnesses in the area at the time of the shooting told NBC 7 San Diego they saw Alvarado slowly driving in reverse as the agent opened fire on her at least six times.

"As the car was backing up the officer was in the street walking toward the car, and discharging,” recalled witness Prince Watson.

“I heard it, ‘Pow, pow,’ and just told my family to get down,” said witness Ayanna Evans.

Witnesses believe Alvarado may have accidentally struck the agent and panicked when he told her to stop and pulled out his gun.

They said the agent was in plain clothes and was not displaying a badge.

“The whole [thing] didn’t look right,” added Evans.
 

layoutshooter

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There very well be more come out. The windshield does look like it had a body hit it at some speed. Seen enough windshields like that after bodies, deer and human, hit them.
 

LDB

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Because of the shift in the nature of police and policing. Cops get away with murder, quite frequently all-too-literally. He's given a paid vacation while a sham investigation is conducted (by the cops themselves), followed by what we all knew was coming: an announcement by the Chief or sheriff that he acted within department policy. Then the victim is painted as the aggressor and the cop as a White Knight who's never so much as passed gas or burped in public, who was busy reading to the blind and helping little old ladies across the street when the dead citizen assaulted the cop's bullets by running into them. Then the cop gets a medal and a promotion.

Assuming the cop is automatically wrong is in reaction to seeing that time and time again. Treat people like dogs, eventually they'll bite. That's what you're witnessing in the comments section.


The 2 or 3 percent of cops that are bad give the 97 to 98 percent of good cops a bad name just like the 2 or 3 percent of good lawyers suffer due to the 97 to 98 percent of bad lawyers.
 

bobwg

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Because of the shift in the nature of police and policing. Cops get away with murder, quite frequently all-too-literally. He's given a paid vacation while a sham investigation is conducted (by the cops themselves), followed by what we all knew was coming: an announcement by the Chief or sheriff that he acted within department policy. Then the victim is painted as the aggressor and the cop as a White Knight who's never so much as passed gas or burped in public, who was busy reading to the blind and helping little old ladies across the street when the dead citizen assaulted the cop's bullets by running into them. Then the cop gets a medal and a promotion.

Assuming the cop is automatically wrong is in reaction to seeing that time and time again. Treat people like dogs, eventually they'll bite. That's what you're witnessing in the comments section.
KFMB tv San Diego Fund raiser held for Deputy nearly killed in shootout with child molester
 

bobwg

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KFMB tv Fundraiser for the family of the woman killed was held today also a witness says he saw the agent was on the hood of the car yelling Stop while pointing his gun at the driver
 

BigCat

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Couple of questions here. If he was on the hood why did it take 5 or 6 shots? Why is the car perfectly parked in the street as if the was sitting there wondering what was going on while firing? Is it possible she was moving slowly when BP jumped on to hood breaking windshield? All the holes from the shots are in the same area of glass that he supposedly landed on.

I smell bs and a bunch of crooked LEO.
 
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