Michelin tires

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
So far my Michelin LTX M/S tires on my CV are holding up great. I got 136,000 on them. I understand time is running out, so I got hold of this guy who has slightly used (2,700 miles) for sale. He told me those tires came out off of a sprinter 2500. Size is 225/75 r16 LTX A/S for $600.

My question is, should I stick with original M/S or switch to A/S
 

Steady Eddie

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
So far my Michelin LTX M/S tires on my CV are holding up great. I got 136,000 on them. I understand time is running out, so I got hold of this guy who has slightly used (2,700 miles) for sale. He told me those tires came out off of a sprinter 2500. Size is 225/75 r16 LTX A/S for $600.

My question is, should I stick with original M/S or switch to A/S

My 1st set on my Sprinter were the A/S. I think I got about 175,000 miles out of them. They are, for the most part, the same tire as the M/S. Just a little differance in tread, but not much. I would offer him $500.00. Either way sounds like you will save a few hundred bucks...
 

ebsprintin

Veteran Expediter
Do they come with a warranty? Seems a bit pricey for an experiment. I like my M/S, and never tried the A/S, but they can't be a bad choice. My next set will probably be the M/S 2 (new with warranty).

eb
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I'm with Eddie. $500 max for those. At $600, that's just fifty bucks each removed from a new tire with a warranty.

I've had A/S (All Season - factory originals) and M/S (Mud 'n' Snow) on mine. I got virtually identical wear on both. They are, as Eddie said, more or less the same tire, with minor differences in tread design and in composition. The A/S will give you slightly better wear because they are harder, but they are not as pliable in cold weather to deal with the snow. The M/S is a little softer for better traction in snow and mud. For expediting I'd say it's a coin toss.

My current and previous set is the A/T2 (All Terrain), which starts off with deeper tread to begin with, is stiffer at warmer temps to give longer tread wear, softer in colder temps to deal with snow, and has a more aggressive tread design. Some people say they are louder, more noisy, but I didn't notice. The A/T2 and the M/S will each give the same tread wear, more or less. The A/T2 is slightly better at braking because of the tread design, but the M/S is supposed to be a smoother ride.

The A/T2s, being All Terrain, will give 35% better tread wear on gravel, which is an important test for off-road durability. I fully appreciate that whenever I deliver to a remote gold mine in Nevada, but also at most automotive plants, some of which, frankly, with their cracked and sometimes missing concrete slabs, are worse than Nevada's off-road gravel roads. Of course, with my new carrier, the chances of delivering to a remote Nevada gold mine is, well, remote.
 

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
Just got done talking to this guy, he want come down on the price.

Come to think about it, I will hold on buying new set till this coming fall

THX turtle for as usual great explanation ;)
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I have also used both on Chevy C/Vans. They both wore the same. Great tires and yes pricey but you get what you pay for. I also tried Tire rack but found out by the time you mount, balance and so forth you don't save enough for your time and aggravation, but that's just me. I like a warranty because when you subject tire to the stress of loads, weather and so forth it's nice to have a back-up on the road.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I'm right there with ya on the Tire Rack. I can't seem to figure out the benefit. They have low pricing, but by the time you add shipping, it's the same, or even more, than buying from my local dealer. Add installation costs, and it's even less attractive. Even if you pick them up at one of the distribution centers, you still have to pay someone to mount them, $12-$15 per tire. You can do all that at a local dealer for about the same price, and a lot less aggravation.

If I were to buy new ones today, I'd get the ones with the new tread design (the ones at the link above for $194 each are closeouts, old tread design, not even 4 of them in stock) at $213 each for a total of $852.00. Shipping to my house is $120.80. $19.95 per tire for mounting, balancing, valve stem and disposal fee, total of $79.80. Grand total is $1052.60. ($263.15 per tire)

My local dealer has them for $222 each, $888. Tax is $53.28, Disposal fee is $2 each, grand total of $949.28 installed, mounting, balancing, stems. ($237.32 per tire)

So, I buy local, save time, aggravation, and $103.32, and get free nitrogen, rotation and balancing for the life of the tires.

There is currently (March 1 - March 24) a $70 mail-in rebate from Michelin, but with the local dealer I get the required invoice immediately for the rebate, while the Tire Rack will mail you one in a week or two (Web invoices are not accepted).

Offer valid for residents of the United States only who purchase from a participating dealer located in the fifty (50) United States or District of Columbia ("U.S.") including APO/FPO addresses (this offer does not apply to Canadian residents). Purchases from warehouse clubs (e.g., Sam’s Club, BJ’s, Costco), mass merchandisers (e.g., Sears, Wal-Mart), and national retailers (e.g., Discount Tire, Tire Kingdom, NTB, Merchant’s) as well as any other non-participating dealers are not eligible for this promotion. This offer is not valid or redeemable with any other Michelin promotion or offer.

So, clearly, there's something magical about Tire Rack that I'm not seeing.
 

beachbum

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I got my tires at discount tire and got the paid warranty which covers road hazards all the way down to the legal tread limit. I also get free rotations and balance for the life of the tire anywhere a discount tire shop is in the country. my cost for tire were like 212 per for 225 m/s. But with everything I paid like 1145 for 4 tires and warranties. But at GATS Landstar has a room for drivers, free lunch and safety meeting and I won a certificate for 800 dollars worth of tires. So my cost was 345 for 4 tires.
 
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