Medications / Rules

porkchop1981

Seasoned Expediter
I've been perscribed Adderal for my concentration problem. The docs says it will help me focus and work more effiecently throughout the days without having the lag I'm used to .

My question is I keep reading about this stuff and its an Amphedimen (spelling). I looked at the fmsca site and could not find specific medications that are/are not allowed.

Only thing I read was that if you are addicted to drugs/alky, or habbit forming drugs you aren't suppose to drive. Adderal is a stimulate and (can) be habbit forming, but....Am I ok to use ??

Thanks,

Chop
 

morningstar55ny

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I've been perscribed Adderal for my concentration problem. The docs says it will help me focus and work more effiecently throughout the days without having the lag I'm used to .

My question is I keep reading about this stuff and its an Amphedimen (spelling). I looked at the fmsca site and could not find specific medications that are/are not allowed.

Only thing I read was that if you are addicted to drugs/alky, or habbit forming drugs you aren't suppose to drive. Adderal is a stimulate and (can) be habbit forming, but....Am I ok to use ??

Thanks,

Chop

REALLY?? I cant help u with the do's and dont s very well............ BUT
i do have a ?
does this really help???
does it make u more alert??
is for someone with ADHD???
i have high blood pressure and take meds for it.
 

porkchop1981

Seasoned Expediter
Yes, its helps ALOT. I've tried alot of stuff but this is actually the only 1 pill I can take and feel good, think straight, and work without stressing over the worries of everyday life. And my concentration is unreal....esp when it comes to my drumming.

yes, its for add/adhd

I also have "high" blood pressure and taking meds for both. I take a reducer/blocker, and my adderal and doc says everything is fine.

I'm do for a drug test for a new job anytime now, and I was just curious if stimulates show up, or are tested for! I'll ask today when I go and let you know what the word is!

Chop
 

butterfly610

Veteran Expediter
I believe you can take those kinds of medicines, for anxiety, concentration, depression, etc...IF your doctor is willing to give you a letter that you keep with you and show your employer that says they give you permission to take the medicine and drive and that they believe it will have no affect on your driving. At least this was the case with a personal friend of mine a couple years ago with a large carrier.
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Is your prescribing doctor aware you are a commercial driver? I heard about one person that was one something similar, and had to go every year for a medical, instead of 2.
Call the FMCSA and ask them what's acceptable.
Our son is on that too, and it works like a CHARM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I am trying to remember if it will show up or not in a drug test, most are looking for the drugs that impair someone.

Well the best thing is as suggested, to get it all documented.
 

porkchop1981

Seasoned Expediter
OK guys, Talked to my doc. today and here are the results. (some of you suggested what I was told)

She told me that she can write me a statement saying that it does not effect the way I drive. I must keep the paper in the vehicle with me (commercial). Finally, because I have a slightly elevated blood pressure, she is "suggesting" that I do yearly physicals instead of bi yearly.

So from the talks today, it sounds like its ok. I'm happy cause of that because this stuff is potent, but my god does it work. I have docs tell me in the past that I was BI- Polar and had me doped up! Finally went to the right doc, and she said I'm not like that...lol......(she acutally laughed) and that I was adhd. 1 pill that helps me focus and more effient is great!

Chop
 

sdelliott31

Expert Expediter
Good for you chop. I have two children on Aterol and it took bouncing around from medication to medication to get to Aterol and that seems to do the trick for ADHD. They sleep well at night. We were also told for ADHD drinking a pop now and then can actually help level you out.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Wow. And to think, I learned how to sit still and behave (I think they call it self-control) without the aid of pharmaceuticals.
 

sdelliott31

Expert Expediter
My wifes family has a long history of ADHD, depression issues and our two girls were diagnosed in school and then through the doctors. It has made a huge difference in helping them slow down a bit. My wife is a special ed coordinator and we don't believe in medicating unless necessary. Let kids be kids, thats how it was when I was young. But its hard when you see results that sometimes medicines do work. IMHO
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Think of it this way, Turtle...

Your mind has 20 things going on. In a normal person, they are prioritized, and the 20 things are each standing in line, waiting their turn. In someone with ADHD, those 20 are all pushing against each other, trying to be first, and ignoring the rules. When you're trying to deal with the one at the front of the line, the others are trying to take your attention away, and usually succeed. Kinda like getting a room in Laredo, at a hotel that's popular with Mexicans.

The drugs, depending on how good they are, act as a bouncer. They allow you to focus on one thing at a time, and keep the rest from interfering by keeping them in line.

In my experience, the drugs I've taken were scrawny bouncers with tazers. Usually not very effective, as the things often overran the meds. All I was left with was the "buzz".
 
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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Oh, I know how they work. I also know that concentration is a learned skill.

Concentration, and thinking, is hard work, often requiring both reasoning and analytical skills, both of which also require hard work in thinking and concentration. Tunnel-vision drugs that allow you to focus on one thing at a time does not allow for the collateral reasoning and analytical operations to occur that make up clear-headed thinking that allow for, and promote, new ideas and options.

If you never learn how to concentrate, you literally never learn how to think. It's like learning long division on a calculator. You and the calculator are very focused on one thing and one thing only, and while you may get the immediate result you want, bottom line is you still don't know how to do long division. If you learn on a calculator as a kid, you're still gonna need it as an adult, cause you've never learned how to do without it. One of the side effects of being dependent on a calculator is that pretty soon you cannot even do simple math beyond two digits in your head, 'cause that requires focused thinking, and you don't know how to think anymore.

If you learn concentration from a pill, you haven't learned how to concentrate. After a while, even the most basic of concentration requirements will become overwhelming if you aren't on the pill.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
You sound like it's all black and white. Frankly, I don't think neurons work that way. My synapses seemed to work fine till a few years ago. I could concentrate and everthin. Now I can to a point, but I have to have solitude... no distractions. It wasn't a learning thing; it just happened.

I do agree that kids are diagnosed with this way more than they should be; but it's not as bad as in the 90s. I think eating and exercise have a lot to do with it. That could even be my problem. But I'm not a doctor. All I can do is improve my own lifestyle, and see if that helps me, individually.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Well, for the most part, it is all black and white. Yes, there are some cases where there is a legitimate chemical imbalance where medications are necessary, but that's a fraction of a percent of the cases where medications are unnecessarily prescribed. Follow the money.

As for you not being a doctor, not to worry. Most doctors aren't doctors, either. Most don't heal the cause, they prescribe medications to treat the symptoms. Sometimes that's a good thing, but mostly it just sells pharmaceuticals.
 

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
My family members cannot figure me out. Long term memory I can tell you the temprature and where we stayed on vacation in 2002 what we did where we ate.

NOW HELP ME FIND MY CAR KEYS AND PEN????? I have no short term memory, if I put something down where it does not belong (LET THE SEARCH BEGIN)

Think this would work for me?

P.S. my Doctor asked and we had a good long conversation about my choosen profession and lifestyle. Your doctor did not know that you were a professional driver? This has everything to do with your health as we are expected to DIE 10 years earlier than the General Public. My Doctor takes everything into consideration in perscribing Medicine and when I should not drive.

Great Post by the way....
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Oh, I know how they work. I also know that concentration is a learned skill.

Concentration, and thinking, is hard work, often requiring both reasoning and analytical skills, both of which also require hard work in thinking and concentration. Tunnel-vision drugs that allow you to focus on one thing at a time does not allow for the collateral reasoning and analytical operations to occur that make up clear-headed thinking that allow for, and promote, new ideas and options.

If you never learn how to concentrate, you literally never learn how to think. It's like learning long division on a calculator. You and the calculator are very focused on one thing and one thing only, and while you may get the immediate result you want, bottom line is you still don't know how to do long division. If you learn on a calculator as a kid, you're still gonna need it as an adult, cause you've never learned how to do without it. One of the side effects of being dependent on a calculator is that pretty soon you cannot even do simple math beyond two digits in your head, 'cause that requires focused thinking, and you don't know how to think anymore.

If you learn concentration from a pill, you haven't learned how to concentrate. After a while, even the most basic of concentration requirements will become overwhelming if you aren't on the pill.

I agree totaly that Concentration is a skill and that pills are nothing more than blockers. Take note there are those that can write with either hand shoot with either hand weld with either hand they are amadextreous right. Now some would say they are strange some would say its a gift. Just like the 5 D thinkers think of them as Chess player they are always ahead of the game 5 moves out or more at best. Thinking ahead. Now getting back to that I agree there are people that cant keep things in perspective so they are given blockers or what have you. A good way to learn concentration is Meditation and Marshal Arts. Wouldnt you agree. I believe any one can do anything if they put there mind to it and want it bad enough.
thanks
:)
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
ADHD isnt anything that can be contolled without drugs.Its a form of being hyper active,person with it cant concentrate,there minds are going in many directions at the same time.Kids usually have poor grades do to lack of concentration. in older people,they usually dont stay at one job for to long.Broom,short term memory,can be helped with vitamins,I remember stuff fom way back,infact my long term memory is much better than short term,but I think mine is old age ,my friend lol.I did have a co driver that couldnt remember anything he did the day he did it,he could remember from a couple days prior though
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
ADHD isnt anything that can be contolled without drugs.Its a form of being hyper active,person with it cant concentrate,there minds are going in many directions at the same time.Kids usually have poor grades do to lack of concentration. in older people,they usually dont stay at one job for to long.Broom,short term memory,can be helped with vitamins,I remember stuff fom way back,infact my long term memory is much better than short term,but I think mine is old age ,my friend lol.I did have a co driver that couldnt remember anything he did the day he did it,he could remember from a couple days prior though


Well Truthfull I dont feel sticking a child on riddlen for being hyper is a good thing, Personaly I think its a Charlie out.
There are natural remides before Riddlen and them other drugs. One of them is Ginger which is from grany days.
Calms one down. Cinamon if your a Diabetic or have a tendency to have high blood pressure will help in lowering it if your a lazy bones and dont like to work out. Far as memory and Concentation goes Ginko biloba helps in mem
what it real does is an oxidezer in getting more oxygen to the brain. Any way them are just a few Grany Remidies that and good Disapline will do wonders for anyone. Roust out the Sugar and the Caffine and Carbonated Drinks
like I said if you want somthing bad enough You can do it Yes YOU CAN... :)
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
Marvin.,the pills that are being talked about for concentration problems arent blockers,the blockers are for mostly blood pressure problems
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Steve

some good advice if you lower your Truck seat so that your knees are higher than your Hips this will help in the prevention of 1. Blood Clots in the legs and Wrestles leg Syndrom.

I bet wasnt long a go a driver said that.

Smoking isnt good for ya, nor is chewing tobaco.
Nicatine speeds ya up and nums the senses alachol kills brain cells and Chewing gum well the sugar make ya hyper and promotes tooth decay.

well the suns down and cool of the nite is setting in so its time to go running.
have fun:)
 
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