Los Angeles at a standstill for Sprinters and Cargo vans

letsdrive

Seasoned Expediter
I prefer newport or Redondo then again was always at Redondo as a kid

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I look at the round trip rather then individual loads....Say I get a $1.25-1.30 going in....I could easily do .75 - .70 coming out.....average $1.00/ mile for the whole episode.
BUT my carrier seems NOT to think this way and I get stuck out there because they are bidding me out of contention....which leads to the ideal of NOT running cheap...in tough markets we should be more flexible and bid the market rather then the policies. That said I chose this carrier and have to live with those policies even thru the times they are NOT in my favour.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I look at the round trip rather then individual loads....Say I get a $1.25-1.30 going in....I could easily do .75 - .70 coming out.....average $1.00/ mile for the whole episode.
BUT my carrier seems NOT to think this way and I get stuck out there because they are bidding me out of contention....which leads to the ideal of NOT running cheap...in tough markets we should be more flexible and bid the market rather then the policies. That said I chose this carrier and have to live with those policies even thru the times they are NOT in my favour.

You seem like the perfect candidate for flat rate.

Maybe you're with the wrong carrier. :cool:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
You seem like the perfect candidate for flat rate.

Maybe you're with the wrong carrier. :cool:

why?.....because I think things out?.....

Do I want to DH out of areas because I am stuck on a principle?.....
I would say I am more flexible then stubborn.... We should be running our business in conjunction with market conditions.....Policies and principles don't always pay the bills. When stuck in a bad area...Do what you must to get rolling.....that is good business
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
A buck in, a buck out. Keep moving.
Sounds flat rate to me.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Once you start adjusting to market conditions, people will expect it.

Hope John maintains his principals.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
A buck in, a buck out. Keep moving.
Sounds flat rate to me.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Once you start adjusting to market conditions, people will expect it.

Hope John maintains his principals.

You are jumping the logic gun....LOL

ONLY under certain conditions would this apply.....the idea is to MAKE money...sitting for 2 weeks and dh ing out makes no one any money.....holding out for maybe a .20 difference makes no sense.

I accept the policy...I try hard NOT to put myself in areas that there is too much of a conflict with said policy
 
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zorry

Veteran Expediter
That's about the response I would have expected.

The initial idea, ingested moments after awakening from a deep sleep, shocked me.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
That's about the response I would have expected.

The initial idea, ingested moments after awakening from a deep sleep, shocked me.

would you sit for a week over say a .20 difference in a rate?......I think you could be a poor business man ...IMO
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
But then again you are a straight where there are more opportunities....the whole scenerio is different between us.....a CV load is much harder to acquire because of our cheap azz no name runners....that does not occur in the straight market...when Pedro will put a skid in his pick up for .50 a mile....that is our competition out west or any where actually....:cool:
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Isn't Los Angeles always at a standstill? Seems every time I see their traffic on TV nothing is moving.

Howsomever: Didn't I just see a post a few days ago where a guy from California was saying he couldn't get any carrier to sign him on because he lives in California? And, didn't I read in that thread that the reason carriers aren't anxious to sign drivers there is because there's either no or not enough work there? It looked to me like if you're West of Interstate 35, count on dead-heading back East if'n y'all don't want to sit until the Second Coming.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Wasn't he looking for a fleet owner to drive for? I think that's who he had the problem with. My memory could be wrong.

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letsdrive

Seasoned Expediter
Its not real hard getting loads west but you may sit a week waiting to get back east that's why I try not to take loads going west unless I'm going home to Vegas

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Isn't Los Angeles always at a standstill? Seems every time I see their traffic on TV nothing is moving.

Howsomever: Didn't I just see a post a few days ago where a guy from California was saying he couldn't get any carrier to sign him on because he lives in California? And, didn't I read in that thread that the reason carriers aren't anxious to sign drivers there is because there's either no or not enough work there? It looked to me like if you're West of Interstate 35, count on dead-heading back East if'n y'all don't want to sit until the Second Coming.

We do fairly well out of El Paso.... I don't invest a lot of time into CA...just turn and burn to EP and be loaded within the week....Remember at L-1 we get $100.00 of layover to put into the tank or for me the first 500 miles are on the house.....thank you L-1.....:)
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Wait. You get to Ca on the first, and don't get a load out until the 8th or 9th ?

Well dummy, it's YOUR fault.
You got there a week too early !

Take a few more days on the outbound trip.
 

T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'll be here all this coming week! Would prefer to get out Tuesday or Wednesday but the 8th will work for me. LA is the busiest city for freight on the West Coast although I heard there was a sprinter load going from Fremont to NC yesterday, wish I was closer :) On 4/22 there were 4+ 1000+ mile loads that came out of LA. I bid them all at a dollar a mile and didn't get them reason why I've lowered my rates.
 

T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
We do fairly well out of El Paso.... I don't invest a lot of time into CA...just turn and burn to EP and be loaded within the week....Remember at L-1 we get $100.00 of layover to put into the tank or for me the first 500 miles are on the house.....thank you L-1.....:)

Did you make to a million miles yet on your sprinter, I though you would be retired by now :) I heard load one drivers are making $1.10 a mile? Ceva paying $1.24.... hmmmm
 
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T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Finally got out on Sunday with a load into BC! Hanging out in Seattle with Sprinter. You guys must think I'm insane for coming up here in a Cargo Van :rolleyes: Weather is quite nice and so is the scenery.
 
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