Loads you wouldn't take.

tknight

Veteran Expediter
Powdered graphite never again last time fork driver ran the tote into my etrack ripped the bag open I was still getting that stuff out for months it got into the etrack slots and was near impossible to get out kept being a pain in the ass for a lon time!!! Don't take loads from grafton Ohio .


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Perioodic

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
There's a ford or GM (I could've wrong) plant south of Nashville that I had the worst experience at. The lady behind the desk sat there doing her nails for 45 minutes with 4 people waiting. After she got done doing her nails, she asked for my paperwork, so I gave her all of it except my copy of the BOL (I figured she just wanted to check if I'm at the correct place). So she tells me to go and get unloaded and come back so she can sign my paperwork, no problem, right? Wrong. I go back to get my copy of the BOL signed and she just refuses to sign because she already did her job, except she didn't even print her name or tell me what her name was. I'll probably never take a load there again just because of how rude she was.


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FlyingVan

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Staff member
Owner/Operator
Money is money and I don't turn away any of it just because some people are rude, or slow, or whatever.

Generally I detest going to Ford (multiple places) and Toyota in Buffalo, WV, but I'm going anyway if the load pays my rate.

The sour taste in my mouth by going to these places is quickly replaced by the sweetness of a big check.

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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We were sometimes asked by FedEx Custom Critical to deadhead a long distance to a shipper in a remote Texas location to cover a load. We had done that load a few times before but came to realize that this shipper orders trucks in anticipation of the load being ready, but as often as not, the load would cancel. The shipper deemed it worth the price to pay for a dry run (a pittance) and have a truck at its dock, instead of finding itself without a truck with the load being ready to ship. It was this shippers practice to arrange the load and truck days in advance and cancel if need be on the shipping day. It was some sort of scientific load that required days of processing to prepare and more days if something went wrong.

Once we figured out that shipper's behavior, we vowed to never again be stuck in that remote Texas site for dry run pay. It was a a bad-faith act by the shipper, we believed, to order a truck to come a long distance only to have the carrier pay it meager dry-run pay when the load canceled, and leave that truck stranded far from other freight. It was also a bad-faith act by the carrier, we believed, because this pattern of behavior was well established.

When the call came to cover this load once again, we declined and stated our reasons why. The dispatcher then explained how important it was to take care of the customer. This was a big customer that shipped hundreds if not thousands of loads per year. We agreed that it is important to take care of such an important customer so we proposed the following: We'll cover the load if the carrier (who believes it is important to take care of the customer) agrees, and documents the agreement with a message, that we will be paid $X to cover our true deadhead and relocation and opportunity costs if the load does not ship. The customer will be well served by having a ready truck at its dock. The carrier will be well served by having the customer taken care of. We will be well served because we will not suffer a financial and time loss on the canceled run.

The dispatcher checked with her supervisor and the supervisor deemed that it was only important that the financial risk of taking care of the customer be borne by the truck, not by the carrier. If the carrier was asked to assume the costs of a likely dry run, that customer could let its hot freight turn cold on its dock.

Presumably, the carrier would try to cover the load with another truck, but this was a highly-credentialed load in a remote location for which trucks were not readily available. Rather than work with and protect us, the carrier opted to find another sucker truck to take care of the customer. That bad-faith act was one of many that built up and eventually led us to part with this carrier.
 
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Mailer

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Money is money and I don't turn away any of it just because some people are rude, or slow, or whatever.

Generally I detest going to Ford (multiple places) and Toyota in Buffalo, WV, but I'm going anyway if the load pays my rate.

The sour taste in my mouth by going to these places is quickly replaced by the sweetness of a big check.

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Agree. As long as it legal and safe, I'll take it.

One crappy load means better opportunity for the next one. After all, it all comes down to customer service and business relationship.

Lol, IMHO of course.
 
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Ragman

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Retired Expediter
Money is money and I don't turn away any of it just because some people are rude, or slow, or whatever.
If it's just a matter of rudeness, no problem, I will take the freight.

In my case, the parts were just stacked on pallets. When I asked to have them secured with pallet wrap or crated they just said "we always ship like that".

Not on my truck they don't.
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Money is money and I don't turn away any of it just because some people are rude, or slow, or whatever.
If it's just a matter of rudeness, no problem, I will take the freight.

In my case, the parts were just stacked on pallets. When I asked to have them secured with pallet wrap or crated they just said "we always ship like that".

Not on my truck they don't.
and if you left the dock with an unsecured load and IF in an accident where they were to bust thru the box.....your a$$ would have been responsible....it would have been on YOU....not the shipper not your company, YOU...you accepted an unsafe load.....Good job DRIVER....

EDIT:...and the shipper if called into question for..."WE always ship like that" letting and knowing an unsecure load leave their dock...
 

jaxonviking

Expert Expediter
I've never turned one down, but I can imagine situations like the loose parts or really gross, smelly drums of unidentified chemicals might be a problem. And my carrier would back me on these. Worst stuff I've dealt with was printed material. Stacked in bundles (or plastic mail trays) on a pallet with not nearly enough wrap. Inevitably, I hit the brakes or turned a little too hard, and the load would flop over. If I'd done more stuff for the print plant, I was considering carrying a piece of plywood to help keep this from happening. I mentioned it to them, but they didn't seem too concerned.
 

FlyingVan

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Owner/Operator
If it's just a matter of rudeness, no problem, I will take the freight.

In my case, the parts were just stacked on pallets. When I asked to have them secured with pallet wrap or crated they just said "we always ship like that".

Not on my truck they don't.
Agree with the safety thing. I refused a load or two because of this.

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Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
To paraphrase a friend, I accept 100% of the loads I don't turn down.
But, have you left any on the dock? I couldn't believe this shipper wanted me to take the load without proper packing?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
To paraphrase a friend, I accept 100% of the loads I don't turn down.
But, have you left any on the dock? I couldn't believe this shipper wanted me to take the load without proper packing?
he just wants it off his/her dock....no regard for any legal requirements...which one day might bite him in the butt...
the ultimate decision comes down to the driver to do what he/she thinks is safe....inform dispatch of your decision, let them contact the customer if the customer fails to secure the load...they should bill them for a dry run and you walk away...
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
The only load I've turned down (other than loads that wouldn't fit) was, you know those nestable pallets they use for the auto part milk crates, where they use one of the pallets for the bottom pallet, and then place another one just like it upside down on the top of the freight? They had two 5-foot stacks of those that had been sitting outside for I don't know how long, open side up, and they were all full of water.

I was given the options of taking the load as-is, or me personally turning each pallet upside down to dump the water and then restacking them all. I took option 3.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
But, have you left any on the dock? I couldn't believe this shipper wanted me to take the load without proper packing?
I think the only time I ever left the dock empty is when it was a weight issue. If I came across one that was a safety issue they would not correct I would let it sit.
 

geo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Navy
I have gone to a pick up and it was to , to tall or heavy, can't take this
Gone to places that seem , that unloading you they are doing you a favor to off load you, or say you will have to wait your turn. I don't as first 30 min's is free than go on clock, go for bonus money.
After that know longer in a hurry .
Most d time I've gotten is $1,800.00 when I was at fedexcc
With ceva was $900.00, still go to that place and in and out
We don't get geat d time like used to, but still good
 
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