danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
how is it a sprinter team with 3 pallet 1750lbs load carring cap can not see the miles? i think i did better as a solo on miles!
loads and where did they go
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Depends, you hear a lot of larger trucks saying their loads are going on sprinters. Think the problem may be lack of certain types of freight, or too many trucks.
Dan..what were you expecting? an unrelated team and you give away 50% of your money or whatever arrangement you have....there is no way...you would be better as a solo...I said from day 1 you'd have a problem and here ya are 3 drivers later and no better off... IMO
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Personally, I am doing ok, My hope this slowness keeps up for a little longer so the marginal players will just go away...
We are doing OK too. Then again, we seldom carry anything that you guys would carry any way. I don't want to see the slowness continue. I would prefer to see enough freight to keep everyone moving and profitable.
I agree to a point...but down here in CV land and autoland just toooo many of us...the herd needs to be culled, like back in 08...many were lost and then we all did just fine....
greg334
Veteran Expediter
I think that maybe a few of the "marginal" carriers should go away.
I wish some of these load boards would tighten or enforce the rules..If a carrier wins the bid then they have to run it....not turn around and resell it, thus taking a cut and it ends up cheap freight at "marginal? carriers......
It is like every other industry. Competition drives down costs. That makes it hard for those who have GOOD equipment to compete with the CHEAP junk. Then the junk starts to take over. The service that is expected is NOT there. The marginal junk goes away as shippers return to higher cost but more reliable carriers.
It is like every other industry. Competition drives down costs. That makes it hard for those who have GOOD equipment to compete with the CHEAP junk. Then the junk starts to take over. The service that is expected is NOT there. The marginal junk goes away as shippers return to higher cost but more reliable carriers.
Jefferson3000
Expert Expediter
I think he's probably referring more to the consolidation of shipments onto the next truck size up. Straight trucks are certainly NOT hauling CV and sprinter freight for those truck size rates. The guy who used to ship 2 skids a day on a van has re-evaluated his supply chain so that he can ship 4 skids every other day on a straight truck. Straight truck loads that can wait are being doubled up onto 53 footers. Unfortunately vans have no one to inherit their freight from.
Yep....when you are at bottom of the food chain...LOL that goodness I have the CV's beneath me...
Jefferson3000
Expert Expediter
It's always interesting how the purple kool-aid drinkers cite "marginal carriers" as being the problem, when the only ones I know that are playing rate games are the purple kool-aid sellers and a big feline. Besides, the only carrier I know of that is screwing their O/Os over by throwing freight on company trailers is......well, you know......
Jefferson3000
Expert Expediter
And yes, OVM, I am aware that the term did not originate with you. Your quote was just closer to the bottom.
Easy on the kool aid reference Jeff....gee whiz...*LOL* ya know we always blame the little guys...it is your fault...It's always interesting how the purple kool-aid drinkers cite "marginal carriers" as being the problem, when the only ones I know that are playing rate games are the purple kool-aid sellers and a big feline. Besides, the only carrier I know of that is screwing their O/Os over by throwing freight on company trailers is......well, you know......
the bigger`carriers never carry cheap freight right?
It's always interesting how the purple kool-aid drinkers cite "marginal carriers" as being the problem, when the only ones I know that are playing rate games are the purple kool-aid sellers and a big feline. Besides, the only carrier I know of that is screwing their O/Os over by throwing freight on company trailers is......well, you know......
I don't drink kool-aid, purple or any other color. It is NASTY stuff. I am not speaking of REAL companies. There are LOTS of off the wall expediter companies out there. I see their trucks all the time. Junk. Rust buckets. Gives the entire industry a bad name. Those are the ones I am speaking of.
Make no mistake, I hold NO illusions as to what is going on with the "bigger" carriers. A am 100% aware that carriers, for the most part, are ONLY interested in THEIR bottom lines, not ours. Contractors are a dime a dozen. We are just another commodity.
Commodity?? sheesh..what do I look like a bushel of corn or pork bellies?....*LOL*
Come to think about it....DON'T answer that...
greg334
Veteran Expediter
NOT actually true, competition within fleets is more of a factor than competition within the market. Junk or good equipment has less to do with service and the ability to haul the freight than it does within the fleet itself. The guy who has the old truck that is paid for can haul cheaper than the one who has the payments and the idea that the carrier needs to pay for his 'investment' for his next truck, hence the latter is crying about how unfair it is.
Service is another factor, outside of the concept of quality service, only the high maintenance cargo (a tag I use for a number of things) seem to be focused on by having semi-elite people do the work, many shippers don't give a crap about what many think is important in the expediting world, like showing up in a uniform and having a pretty truck. It is about being flexible which many of you still don't get.
I would think that learning how the system works and what is considered reliable before thinking that the Junk is what the problem is.
True to a point. If a smart straight truck driver has the ability to do so, they can have three or four of those van/sprinter loads on board and make well near 3 or 4 bucks a mile. I know one owner who is doing just that with two of his trucks and he is doing well.
BINGO we have a winner!!!
THIS IS the very point I have been trying to make to others who poo poo it. Most of those still think a lot of the work we get is actually 'expedited' freight and some of them are van owners who seem to think that they know a lot about the market.
Another very important fact. I compete with both D units larger than I am and vans/box trucks because of my size but because I fit in the middle, I take a number of pieces that could go on a van but my equalizing factor with the larger trucks is my ability to hold 10k.
I agree with you on this one. But this has to be said, marginal carriers are within the larger companies that have different divisions because of the marginal management of their fleets which in turn cause them to have marginal owners.
The throwing freight on company trailers have been happening for a long time, at least since 2006 but until one of the stars of the fleet finally got impacted by it, it is now an issue?