listening to drivers complain......

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highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
So ask me again what I've done when my family has been a part of this industry for over 40 years.

O.K.... I'm asking. You support a strike and your family has a history in transportation. What else? You could begin with the documentation you have that supports what you say about what brokers earn. I realize that many believe as you do, so it must be true, but, you know, humor me.

I've been busy hauling freight for a reasonable rate, so today is the first time I went through this whole thread. Awesome entertainment!! Disagreement is a "lack of comprehension", or not "having your own ideas". Priceless...

Oh... What's a "loatoo"? I've been in trucking over 30 years and that's a new one on me.
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Don't picket yourself, it could lead to blindness.

B.C.G.E.U. = Blind Call Girls Employee Union

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hossman2011

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I listen to drivers, both expeditors and reg transporters, complain about many things including rates. I wonder how many drivers realize that the are their own worst enemies as far as rates go. We as drivers allow the brokers to pay such low rates for many reasons, the biggest being our inability to band together. I wonder if drivers realize that the brokers get more pay than drivers for just picking up the phone and/or tapping a few keys on their keyboard to post the loads. When will all of us unite to get our rightful pay? A strike is necessary. Drivers are afraid to strike because they need money. All of us do and thats where banding together is key. We need to take care of one another to get through the time we would have to be down. I am keeping this short just to get the thought out there. Look into what brokers get for the loads you take and see what YOU make. Not fair.

Time for you to give up driving and move to Mexico and make twinkies!!!
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
the problem is you are trying to enlighten some very experienced and savvy drivers, many of whom are also currently or have been brokers themselves. We're not nearly as ignorant as you think we are. You got your surmised negativity and opposition in this thread because we've heard it before. You think you're the first person to think of such a thing? You're not. Expediting just chock-full of ex-uaw autoworkers and other unioners who have that mentality coming into the business.

Plus, you're using the term "broker" to apply to brokers, 3pls, carriers with a broker bond, and drivers who broker their own loads. Some of the things you are saying about brokers simply don't apply to the vast majority of those with broker bonds who broker loads. Most brokers take in far less money than drivers do even after expenses. If you want to get paid all of the broker money, then get a broker bond and have at it. Brokers also take risks that most drivers do not take, such as having to pay the carrier and thus the driver if the shipper fails to pay. Brokers do far more than "just picking up the phone and/or tapping a few keys on their keyboard to post the loads."

all the drivers out here are small business owners, not company drivers. Anyone who goes on strike are going on strike against themselves, no one else. Supply and demand in the expediting industry is such that if 80% of the expediters went out on strike, traditional trucking would take up most of the slack initially, and within two or three weeks the expediting fleet will have been replaced and the rates would be right back to where the capacity allows it to be.

So, what's my suggestion? Start thinking like a business owner and not like an employee. Quit worrying about what someone else is making and concentrate on your business and how to make it profitable, because you're the only one who can make it profitable, since no one else, especially carriers, brokers, shippers or the rest of us business owners cares one wit whether you are profitable or not.

thankyou turtle!!!!!!!
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
It amazes me that since you cannot come up with a suggestion to help our profession other than a generic "I work everyday" you come at me with a conspiracy theory that I'm a teamster. You couldn't be further off point. I was raised around the life of trucking, my father has been a driver over 40 years and is an owner operater and never been a union man either. We talk daily about the deterioration of this profession which has happened with the help of brokers/agents flooding the industry with idiots that fight for loads that causes our rates to fall and their profits to increase. If you cannot see that you're blind. I'll ask you again, what would you suggest we do to help ourselves? I'm open to discussions. I'm not on here to rip my fellow drivers apart. I want to repair our tarnished reputation.

Repair our tarnished reputation? Well they have been repairing them for the 43 years I've been out here and it keeps getting worse. I guess the only way to make it better is 50c a gallon gas and $3 a mile freight, a $250 truck. Oh yes when you get home have a playboy bunny waiting to serve you dinner. Other than that I guess we're all just plain screwed.
 

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
Wow, it's amazing how ignorant you are. I'm not trying to convince anyone to go on strike. I made a suggestion as to what I believe needs to happen to turn things around for us drivers. I have also asked you and your other ignorant friends to make your own suggestions on how to help our profession but none have come, only more comments trying to pick apart my opinions and beliefs. Quit being a follower all your life and try to have a thought of your own. Oh, and you must be my accountant since you feel you know how im doing financially! lol I imagine im doing better than you and definitely not as miserable as you and your pooch! lol
 

pandora2112

Seasoned Expediter
Facepalm....apparently you aren't reading the suggestions. I've seen quite a few suggestions, you don't like how your business is going then change it! Quite simple but those who have their niche in this business aren't going to change to make you happy.

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wvcourier

Expert Expediter
I think brokers should need more qualifications besides an "online training course" wat a joke...they are ruining this business...and there needs to be some kind of insurance set up, to make sure driver still gets paid ,if broker goes bankrupt, and takes drivers money to closest casino and or strip club.

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xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
That will convince them. :rolleyes:

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Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
show me a single serious suggestion. All of you are so intent on bashing my opinion that you miss whatz going on right in front of you. Do the brokers/agents hireand contract drivers? Is the industry flooded with drivers? Does having too many drivers cause rates to fall? Does turning down a low rate keepinv one of the other hundrecs of drivers from taking it? Does lower rates equal more money into the pockets of brokers/agents or drivers?All of you ignorant comics answer those questions. If you put in the same wisd cracking effort into helping drivers rather than putting them down there might be hope. Educate new drivers on how to rate their runs, help them with locations to sit for load, offer equipment advice, etc. I seen a post where a guy asked about how he goes about findi.g a good company to lease on with but you guys were only interested in tearing him apart about suping up his suspension. Yes, he was makjng a mistake but youvuys wise cracked at him rather than offer real help. This is my point im trying to make. Not strike , not low pay, but tryng to help make our profession better.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
show me a single serious suggestion.
Joining OOIDA or driving in a safe professional manner were mentioned.

Do the brokers/agents hireand contract drivers?

No, brokers find loads and then find companies that can supply the vehicle to move the load.

Is the industry flooded with drivers?

Yes

Does having too many drivers cause rates to fall?

Yes

Does turning down a low rate keepinv one of the other hundrecs of drivers from taking it?

No

Does lower rates equal more money into the pockets of brokers/agents or drivers?

It depends on the situation but usually when there are lower rates it means the broker and driver both made less.

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xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Run out of arguments and start calling names. Seems like others don't have your problems but yet you try to convince them they do. When so many seem to make it work for them maybe they are not the ones who need to change.

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