Libertarian party says NO to senator Murkowski.

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As they count the absentee ballots today in Alaska the Libertarian party says they won't allow Senator Murkowski to run on their ticket if she should lose in the final voter tally. The only other way she could still run is as a independent write in candidate. If she happens to win the final count of ballots today Joe Miller should try to run as the Libertarian candidate as he is closer to their platform than Murkowski. Hot Air » Bombshell: Alaska Libertarian Party says no to nominating Murkowski
 

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How in the heck do they come up with 9,000 disputed ballots? I thought it was just absentee ballots. I'm concerned that Miller might not do as well with the absentees because he came on strong in the closing days of the election and those ballots were sent in early,plus he didn't have a organization for those ballots like Murkowski. If she can wittle away his 1,700 vote lead to a few hundred than she might pull a Franken with those disputed ballots.
 

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Seems almost all candidates backed by Sarah Palin win. Who can explain this?
Illusory Corollary. Guy makes a fantastic defensive play to end the inning and he's first at-bat next inning. That always happens, right? Nope. But those are the ones you remember, those are the ones that stick out in your mind. The candidates that Palin endorses, and wins, are the ones you remember, almost as if a Palin endorsement is the reason for the win (the illusory correlation), when a Palin endorsement almost certainly has nothing to do with it and the wins are largely attributed to one or more other factors (like the one Layout hit upon, the "vote the incumbents out" mindset of many voters).
 
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and the wins are largely attributed to one or more other factors (like the one Layout hit upon, the "vote the incumbents out" mindset of many voters).
Yup .... would probably be wise for some around these parts to not get all verklempt over the party out of power winning some seats in the upcoming elections ..... considering what usually happens in terms of the who's holding the White House .... otherwise ya might get a little shpilkis in ya genechtagazoink ..... when ya find out the that vast majority of the country ain't seen the far right, conservative light ..... :rolleyes:

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On the republican side in the primaries they are mostly voting out the less fiscally conservative incumbants and in the general this November they will be voting out the less fiscally conservative incumbants on the Dem's side. Palin and the tea party endorsements are making a difference.
 

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I think the Tea Party endorsements are much more of a factor than Sarah Palin. The Tea Party is a mass movement of ideas and ideals, and the candidates who most fit within those ideals is likely to be the one to be endorsed by the Tea Party. It's almost a chicken and egg kind of thing, but many voters who would identify themselves with the Tea Party and who are unsure about a candidate, will (or might) be swayed towards the Tea party candidate. What Sarah Palin says will have little effect on that, especially if she endorses a candidate that the Tea Party comes out against.

Just take a look at what Palin is doing. Mainly, she's riding the coat tails of the Tea Party to keep her name out there and to get as many photo ops as she can. While she has become the de facto leader of the Tea Party movement, she still won't take control of it and really put herself out there. Remember during the whole presidential race deal where she shined in the limelight but wilted in the spotlight. She's making sure she's in the limelight with the Tea Party, and out of the spotlight. At the most recent rally, she was there alright, but as Beck's sidekick. She likes the attention, but not too much of it. As the Washington Post noted the other day, she has a finely-tuned ear to what draws attention in the political world. But with all her smoke, there's little fire behind it. She's not out there in front, but right there on the side, campaigning and endorsing others, but she won't commit to the spotlight, for fear of a crushing defeat and for all the nasty things the press will say about her. Instead, she's right there in the limelight, hoping that eventually there will be such an overwhelming outcry for her to run for president that it's a sure thing.

She wrote a book, shopped a reality TV show, and now her daughter will be trying to dance her way to reality TV stardom on Dancing With The Stars. That, too, will be milked for all its political worth. Sarah Palin, when all is said and done, is an opportunist, and 2 years from now, 6 years from now, she'll still be beating the bushes looking for that big opportunity. She's pounding away at what people want to hear, but most of her power and appeal is tied directly to her looks. She can talk the talk all day long, but will she be able to walk the walk when she looks more like Nancy Pelosi? Basically, many Americans are hitching their buggy to a semi-literate cutie who has trouble stringing a coherent sentence together. Isn't that adorable? She's a GOP cheerleader, nothing more.

Huckabee, Romney and Gingrich all have a better shot at winning the presidential race than Palin does. But she's headed to Iowa in a couple of weeks to be the keynote speaker at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Ronald Reagan Dinner, a key fund raiser for the party in that state. Beating the bushes to see what falls out. People will talk.

At least she's smart enough to keep turning down invitations to appear on “Meet the Press”, “Face the Nation” or “This Week.” Any potential political career she might have would be over in half an hour of word salad gibberish. She doesn't have enough palms or Sharpies for something like that.

I'm a big Sarah Palin fan, can you tell? I still can't get past the fact that as Alaska's governor, she had this big time speech where she went on and on about her not being a quitter, and then promptly quit. She quit school, twice, and has quit every job she's ever had. Her motto: When the going gets tough - quit! That's why she'll stay the cheerleader, since it keeps her in the spotlight enough for reality TV shows and books and speaking fees, but the going won't get tough.
 

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Well, of course Palin is an opportunist. Aren't all politicians guilty of this? If all Palin manages to do is lend support to conservative candidates, then that's quite enough. It appears about 2/3 of the candidates she backs goes on to win a primary. Many of them are relative unknowns. It is no small feat for unknowns to defeat incumbents. Palin is a darling of the Tea Party movement, so it isn't surprising to see Palin and the Tea Party working together.

I would suggest Sarah Palin has only one race left in her own political future. If she wants to remain relevant, she cannot afford to lose any election where she is running on the ticket. She knows this. The implication that Sarah Palin isn't particularly bright is wrong. She represents the frustrations of millions of hard working common folk who will never have the political stage she does. When Palin stumbles over a word, as George W. Bush often did, we forgive her. Academic elites flatter themselves by picking apart Palin's words and diction. This says more about them than Palin. Academic elites (and faux elites) love to hate Sarah Palin. It's a visceral hatred rooted in their own inadequacies.
 

RLENT

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Basically, many Americans are hitching their buggy to a semi-literate cutie who has trouble stringing a coherent sentence together. Isn't that adorable? She's a GOP cheerleader, nothing more.
...... and that might say a little something about how desperate many Americans are for a little real political leadership ..... the all-too-obvious tendency to grasp at whatever cute face (or slick, polished presentation) that happens to come down the pike ...
 

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Well, of course Palin is an opportunist. Aren't all politicians guilty of this?
Of course they are. Palin is no different, despite the fact that people say she is. However, most politicians are opportunistic to gain power, Palin just wants attention, but not too much, and of course the money that comes with it. At this point she's mostly just famous for being famous, the Kim Kardashian of the GOP.

If all Palin manages to do is lend support to conservative candidates, then that's quite enough. It appears about 2/3 of the candidates she backs goes on to win a primary. Many of them are relative unknowns. It is no small feat for unknowns to defeat incumbents. Palin is a darling of the Tea Party movement, so it isn't surprising to see Palin and the Tea Party working together.
In the year of "Vote 'em Out" elections, it's not hard for a performing monkey to defeat incumbents, and if you endorse the NOT Incumbent, you've got a real shot at being right most of the time.

The implication that Sarah Palin isn't particularly bright is wrong. She represents the frustrations of millions of hard working common folk who will never have the political stage she does. When Palin stumbles over a word, as George W. Bush often did, we forgive her. Academic elites flatter themselves by picking apart Palin's words and diction. This says more about them than Palin. Academic elites (and faux elites) love to hate Sarah Palin. It's a visceral hatred rooted in their own inadequacies.
Nice try, but sorry. She is what she is, there's no denying it, and it's got nothing to do with any inadequacies (or faux inadequacies) of her critics. The implication that he's not particularly bright isn't an implication, but an outright statement. She keeps proving it over and over again. Whenever she's forced to get out of her very narrow comfort zone of cheerleader she looks like a 30-Watt light bulb struggling to get by on 3 Watts. She represents the frustrations of millions, I'll give you that, but when Junior stumbled over words nobody was quick to forgive or defend it, but they do with Palin. Junior just wasn't a cute as Palin. Nobody has to pick apart her words and diction, as it's right there for all to see.

Harken back to a time not all that long ago, when was thrust upon us from out of nowhere was someone who captured the imagination of millions, someone who reminded the people of themselves, who said all the right things, who thought like the people thought, someone who could do no wrong, a shining beacon in the darkness of frustration and despair who echoed those frustrations and promised to eradicate them (albeit without giving any specifics on how), a veritable rock star with a loyal and frenzied following.

Who is this remarkable person? Not so fast. There ya go.
 

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Harken back to a time not all that long ago, when was thrust upon us from out of nowhere was someone who captured the imagination of millions, someone who reminded the people of themselves, who said all the right things, who thought like the people thought, someone who could do no wrong, a shining beacon in the darkness of frustration and despair who echoed those frustrations and promised to eradicate them (albeit without giving any specifics on how), a veritable rock star with a loyal and frenzied following.

Who is this remarkable person? Not so fast. There ya go.

You Betchya!
 

aristotle

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I and countless others pleaded with all whom would listen to not fall for the charlatan, Barack Hussein Obama. In just 18 months, Obama has authored and directed the destruction of Traditional America. He promised to fundamentally transform this nation, and he has delivered. My disgust cannot be measured.

Sarah Palin fulfills a useful role in conservative politics. She can draw a large crowd and influence the outcome of key elections. She speaks her mind and a fine mind it is. It matters not one farthing what her naysayers think. She is relevant. Her detractors are, for the most part, Lilliputians. They weren't going to support her or conservative causes anyway. Don't want 'em. Don't need 'em.

Anyone who wishes for conservative government knows Sarah Palin is one of us. If I were a liberal, I wouldn't like Sarah either.
 

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Sarah Palin fulfills a useful role in conservative politics.
Well, duh, she's not liberal.

She can draw a large crowd and influence the outcome of key elections.
Do you really think if she came out staunchly against a Tea Party candidate, albeit i conservative one, that she would have much influence over how people voted? I don't. Mostly I see her as influencing people who have already decided what they are going to do.

She speaks her mind and a fine mind it is.
She tells you what you want to hear. There's a difference.

Anyone who wishes for conservative government knows Sarah Palin is one of us. If I were a liberal, I wouldn't like Sarah either.
Well, liberals for sure aren't going to like her. But "either"? I'm a conservative and I don't like her even a little bit. I see her for what she is, not for what I want her to be, and I refuse to project my wants and desires onto her and then assume she'll deliver. People did that with Obama and look where it got them.
 
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