Las Vegas Shooting

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I'm kind of surprised this didn't show up this week.
Pray for the families of those that died.

The guy with the concealed carry is dead because he had the piece.
Otherwise he would have escaped with the others.

Hummm.....
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I'm kind of surprised this didn't show up this week.
Pray for the families of those that died.

The guy with the concealed carry is dead because he had the piece.
Otherwise he would have escaped with the others.




Hummmmmmmmm. Funny how those who don't believe in the chance to protect one's self seem to ONLY find stories where the attempt to protect themselves failed. What about the 10's of thousands events where it works for those who choose to defend themselves? Like this one:

[h=3]Homeowner shoots and kills armed robbery suspect[/h]"A Detroit woman surprises an armed robbery suspect in her home. He pointed a gun at her head, but the woman was armed. Bullets started flying and the suspected ended up dead."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24796777/homeowner-shoots-and-kills-armed-robbery-suspect


HUMMMMMMMMMMM! :p
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I don't believe in the right to protect myself ??
Then why do I have a Permit to Carry ?
Spent the time and money ? And time at the range ?
Hummm....

My point is it doesn't make one invincible.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I don't believe in the right to protect myself ??
Then why do I have a Permit to Carry ?
Spent the time and money ? And time at the range ?
Hummm....

My point is it doesn't make one invincible.


I don't know why, some would say it's because it gives you a "woody". :p

It does not make one "invincible", it only gives one a chance. A chance one would NOT have if they chose to be a victim.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
That's the exact opposite of what happened, though.

Yep, and many time it has. NOT being armed allows for NO chance.

12 million unarmed died in Nazi Germany
20 million unarmed died in Soviet Russia

Unfortunately, that list is never ending. What has happened in the past, will happen again, of that there is NO doubt.

THAT is why we have armed citizens, to give us a chance, when, not if, our own government goes that route, as all have in history have done, and those that have not yet, will. When, not if, an individual is faced with a criminal, at home, on the street, where ever. Very few, if any, will lead a full life without it being touched by crime.
 

Turtle

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Yep, and many time it has. NOT being armed allows for NO chance.
Uhm, except for this instance where NOT and NO is the exact opposite.

12 million unarmed died in Nazi Germany
20 million unarmed died in Soviet Russia

Unfortunately, that list is never ending. What has happened in the past, will happen again, of that there is NO doubt.

THAT is why we have armed citizens, to give us a chance, when, not if, our own government goes that route, as all have in history have done, and those that have not yet, will. When, not if, an individual is faced with a criminal, at home, on the street, where ever. Very few, if any, will lead a full life without it being touched by crime.
Six posts and right to Nazi Germany. Impressive.
 
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layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Uhm, except for this instance where NOT abd no is the exact opposite.


Six posts and right to Nazi Germany. Impressive.

What's impressive is how many are willing to forget, and dismiss it. Even more impressive how many use facing the reality of what Man can do to Man as a means of ridicule.

There are MANY kinds of fools. Those who either learned nothing, or choose to believe that what has taken place before, can never happen again. There has not been a century, in Man's past, where a "Hitler" or a "Jackson" has not practiced their trade, this century will be no different.

There are those who spout "crap", like the idea of self defense requires a "woodie.

There are those who spout "crap" like have a CPL, and carrying, makes one immune to "danger".

It is all the spouting of "crap" that is preventing reality from taking hold.

The "Hitler" type is alive and well today, as is the "Stalin" type, the "Jackson" type as well. NO government is beyond that type of thing.

The "Thugs" have control of many of the streets in the US today, of that there is NO doubt. It is almost a given that anyone alive today will face them at one point or another, if they have not already.

IF you can prove ANY part of what I just wrote, try. It cannot be done, because it is fact.

The victim mentality sucks. Just stand back, do nothing, prepare for nothing, and take what comes your way, is just plain STUPID. Will planning and preparation prevent, with 100% certainty, every thing bad from happening? Nope. Will doing nothing insure that if, and when, something bad does happen that one will be able to do NOTHING? Yep. It's an individual choice. My wife and I have made our choices, you can do as you choose. Just as it is your right to choose not to defend yourself, or to defend yourself, so is it ours. We do so for what ever reasons we believe are right, based on our experiences and education, as do you. How about a deal, you respect our decisions, and I will respect yours. Your experiences, your education, is not the same as others, it is not any better, or worse, just different.
 
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Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Maybe a debate class at the next EO Workshop ?

Right after the class on Turtle and his phone's autocorrect issues.

And we'll have a roundtable discussion on Layout's woody over the whole woody thing. He can't stop talking about it.
 

Ragman

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Retired Expediter
And we'll have a roundtable discussion on Layout's woody over the whole woody thing. He can't stop talking about it.
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layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
"And we'll have a roundtable discussion on Layout's woody over the whole woody thing. He can't stop talking about it."

Seems to me the "woody" thing was brought up by others here as a form of ridicule.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I'm kind of surprised this didn't show up this week.
Pray for the families of those that died.

The guy with the concealed carry is dead because he had the piece.
Otherwise he would have escaped with the others.




Hummmmmmmmm. Funny how those who don't believe in the chance to protect one's self seem to ONLY find stories where the attempt to protect themselves failed. What about the 10's of thousands events where it works for those who choose to defend themselves? Like this one:

Homeowner shoots and kills armed robbery suspect

"A Detroit woman surprises an armed robbery suspect in her home. He pointed a gun at her head, but the woman was armed. Bullets started flying and the suspected ended up dead."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24796777/homeowner-shoots-and-kills-armed-robbery-suspect


HUMMMMMMMMMMM! :p



Not funny [but revealing] is how those who don't care for the subject want to change it.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I'm kind of surprised this didn't show up this week.
Pray for the families of those that died.

The guy with the concealed carry is dead because he had the piece.
Otherwise he would have escaped with the others.

Hummm.....

Zorry: it did, [show up], but it's kind of buried in the "Obama" thread, after 60 or so posts, following a great 'think piece' Turtle linked in post 55. Some interesting comments, though. :eek:
 
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zorry

Veteran Expediter
Sorry I missed it.

I generally don't read stuff in the Soapbox.

By the time I get through the Carrier Forum I've generally had my day's fill of aggravation.
 
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