Kinda peeved at panther2

[pantherii]

we took a load from Iowa, to denver colorado, then we had an empty move to wichita,mo ( which was fine didnt want to stay in denver it was -25) but when we got to wichita we had a load offer to calexico,ca the load offer was at 3pm pick up was 3am next day. the load is a swap with antoher panther driver. so we get there at 2:30am the other panther driver has not yet shown or i guess due there till 6am so we call dispatch to tell them to call us when the other panther driver arrives while we catch some zzzzzzzzz"S they say fine. at 5:15 am get a qc message saying load is cancelled other driver says he can take load the whole way : ( I was so angry but i didnt reply to the message and went to a truck stop.

we were paid a dry run and we got first out, the first out load was a 253 mile run to fenton,mo. and we didnt get a load out in the afternoon and now its sunday and wont get a load out today. im getting angry right now writting this, how can they give us a load offer at 3pm friday afternoon, that picks up 3am saturday morning then qc a message saying driver will take the load all the way at 5:15am...any comments?

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Welcome to the jungle! I see you've met the beast

 

[x06col]

Yes, what Tenneseahawk typed. Maybe the honeymoon is over.

 

[teacel]

My thoughts exactly!

Weren’t you the same guy that was bragging about running his butt off, and being cocky too?

Didn't everyone mention the honeymoon, and forewarn you this very thing was going to happen.

Like T said, welcome to the jungle.

On a more serious note, (even if it pisses Davekc off) I had a driver working for me last year, who worked for Panther in 2000, and 2001, who told me this kind of thing happened to him all the time. When I ask him why he didn't demand to speak to someone other than a dispatcher about why they were always doing it, his told me he didn't like to stir the pot. So he let them get away with it, till he wound up quitting.

What I am saying is, Scott told me he used to get dispatched to a pick up, only to have another driver show up and take the load out from under him. He told me he later learned some dispatchers would use him to cover their butts, but would pass his loads off to their friends, if they happened to be in the same area. Needless to say Panther fired the dispatcher.

No driver should ever let a dispatcher do this. If it is done and is an honest mistake, fine, it will be. BUT! If this starts to happen more than once a year, you drivers need to address it with the higher ups, and/or the owners, if you can reach them. Tell them what these dispatchers are doing. Let it be known to everyone. If you don't you will become that dispatcher’s pigeon. Beware for the dispatcher could make or break a driver.

Take this situation! That dispatcher had no business letting this other driver take the load all the way, not after it was set up to be split. If it were I, the dispatcher did it to; Panther would be paying me every penny I could have made had I taken the load. I would be calling the panther owners about this one.

 

[pantherii]

didnt realize i was bragging in earlier comments teacel sorry if that upset you. Were still happy with our jobs and still happy with the expediting industry, i just wanted to post this message to see what you guys thought and i think i will be calling somebody higher up, thanks for that comment teacel.

It just didnt seem right to be dispatched 12 hours in advance for a swap then 45min until the driver is suppose to be there they cancel the load because the driver says he can take it all the way now!!!

as far as a honeymoon, i dont think dispatchers feed newbies,i think it all depends on if your in the right place at the right time, and those numbers as far as in service or availabilty, i dont think that matters either, if theres a truck available in the area that dispatcher will give the load to him.

 

[RichM]

Try this one with Panther dispatch. Ask them where is the Dry run pay coming from.They should charge the other driver as he only commited to a certain amount of miles,then 12 hours later changed his mind. Or the dispatcher who set it up for you should be penalized.

I would make it a major issue with Panther supervisors.

 

[davekc]

If it was offered 12 hours prior to pickup, you should have turned it down. It wouldn't have been a refusal either.
I am under the assumption you were paid for the dry run?
Anything else should have been asked of contractor relations or a dispatch supervisor.
As far as frequency of occurance; we haven't had this happen on any of our trucks. Closest thing was several months ago and two trucks showed up for the same load. The first truck picked up the load several hours prior to our trucks arrival.
Confusion between offices rather than something deliberate.
Hard to comment further without knowing all the information.

Davekc

 

[pantherii]

davekc were new to expediting and when we saw a 1600 mile run out to california,we werent going to turn it down. I have emailed some higher ups such as the ceo and operations manager, i recieved an email from the ceo this morning saying he will have someone follow up this situation, if he does thats another matter but atleast this matter is not going overlooked.

 

[whitewolf53]

Don't hold your breath waiting for the CEO to resolve the matter.
You got shafted!!!!!!
And it won't be the last time either.
Welcome to the wonderful world of expediting


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[Tennesseahawk]

The way I see it, the driver gave up his load once he sent off a swap request (or safety swapped him). My guess is that the owner has some pull, and called the company demanding he stay on the run.

I would be angry too, if that happened to me (cause something very similar did). Take it in stride, and look forward to being back on the right side of the country. It will even out. At least you contacted the higher ups, so they know you're not a pushover.

 

[guest]

Answer from Scott... You do not have to accept a load and we don't have to offer you a load... after I was 1st in Fort Wayne, IN having dinner with a driver who was second on Fort Wayne board...he got the load and I got the answer...that's PII policy...by the way... I have 97 in service and 82 acceptance...2 yrs with PII

 

[huntn1]

so when is the big change going to take place ?????

 

[LDB]

>i recieved an email from the ceo this morning

Good for you. I emailed him twice and never got a response. One of the reasons my new truck is at a different company. Good luck getting it all sorted out.

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[Tennesseahawk]

Who is Scott?

When picking favorites happened at my expense, I was told policy is first in, first out. My acceptance rating at the time was 91%. They said they would correct it. Guess not. :-(

 

[guest]

Scott is a superviser..afternoon

 

[X1_SRH]

Not to be confused with this Scott...

 

[Broompilot]

The driver did give up his load the way I see it. I would have to insist on $30. an hour for sitting $360 because now my whole weekend is destroyed for any profits at all. Second my advice to you put your time in and lumps (one year) than if this crap is still happening go find a smaller company to run for. A team should be busy all of the time especially if your dependable and have a track record of one year.

Smaller companies do not have these kind of problems its generally just those couple of giants. There are pros and cons to both but the smaller company has worked much much better for me.

Let me ask all members here reading this. Lets say the other driver showed up and he is completely out of hours, and oh now you decide you do not want the run. Whats good for the Goose should be good for the (*&^% right?

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Should be, but isn't. You would have one HUGE blemish against you, if you pull the crap on them that they do to their contractors.

 

[whitewolf53]

>Should be, but isn't. You would have one HUGE blemish
>against you, if you pull the crap on them that they do to
>their contractors.


Hey Hawk:Are we talking about one specific Company????/

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[Tennesseahawk]

Actually, it's more than one company. This one in particular, is Panther. As I've said, I've been bumped for someone's pal at least once. And, honestly, I hear it from drivers from most companies. All I'm saying is, if you pull stuff like that on them, they'll either have retributions, or can you.

It's very simple. You are lower on the food chain. The one who holds the cards is the company. It's a "Do as I say, not as I do" atmosphere, and you won't be missed if you don't like it. I'm not whining, just revealing the politics for what they are with the attitude these companies have towards their contractors.