Kids in Restaurants

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I don’t have much sympathy for waiters/waitress’ unless they serve me well (take it as you will) and if they expect a tip, I won’t give it on the merits that they took my order but have to deliver but that is my restaurant up bringing – sorry.

Well anyway, this is where I sympathize with every waiter/waitress – kids in restaurants.

Here is a really interesting article, I recommend reading the comments too.

http://tinyurl.com/2ctm62

When I was professionally ‘babysitter’, I was forced to bring kids to restaurants as part of the program I was involved with, like the other pro’s. I think it was to see if we would have a nervous breakdown when the kids misbehaved but a few of us decided the best thing to do was to make sure that the kids had some incentive to behave, we found their favorite toy(s), we took them and told them they would get it back if we had no problems – cruel? I guess but we never had to deal with problems that most parents had to deal with.

Well since I grew out of the stage of being a pro as a patron of some of the better restaurants, my wife and I used to go out to places that really didn’t have a lot of kids but we have had our share of putting up with cr*p because of lazy (stupid) parents.

The stories are numerous, but the first prize goes to having a kid take food off of my plate and when I told the manager I refused to pay for it and he presented the bill to the parents, I was told that the parents weren’t going to pay for the food that their kid just desecrated. I almost got arrested that night for screaming obscenities at the parents and the kids (I didn’t know I knew that many words and I hope the kids repeat all of them).

Then the parents who let their kids run around agitating others while they are talking is closely followed by the screechers of a nearby table and that is followed by the kid who throws food or spits it at people (yes I seen this a bunch of times, one time I watched one kid running around IHop one day spitting on people until one old man stopped the kid dead in his tracks by hitting him with a cane on his a** really hard)

The grand prize is sitting in a rather respectable place, having just served a prime rib that was roasted just perfect (MMMMM) with a couple and two kids sitting across from us who was making a fuss because they could not entertain the kids well enough. The kids were not the problem, the problem came when the girl stood up, moved her appetizer over to the other table and plopped the kid on the table and changed a really stinky diaper while I and others was trying to eat. She was unaffected by the all the fuss like she had a right to ruin our dinner, no parent has any right to do something this offensive to the patrons of the place. I absolutely lost it, yelling for the manager in unison with several others and we all refused to pay for our meals. The manager there did the right thing and comp all of us but I can’t eat prime rib anymore, I should have sued the couple for emotional distress.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I should have sued the couple for emotional distress


That would have been the American thing to do. Take them to Judge Judy.:+
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Interesting article. My daughter teaches inner-city kids in Dayton, had to order her one of those "I Hate Your Kids" t-shirts for bad days when she just wants to come home, put on her t-shirt and curl up in a little ball!!!
 

silverdollar

Expert Expediter
I have driven a truck for 45 years and this is the first time I have ever heard a so called trucker whine about emotional distress.:7 :7 :7 :7
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Can't eat prime rib anymore? Geez, Greg... I hope you're being sarcastic and just mascarading as a thin-skinned lib, rather than actually turning into one. ;)

-True independence can only be gained if you're trully independant.
 

theoldprof

Veteran Expediter
Gregg. You and I differ significantly in our political views. I am a moderate liberal, and you appear to be an overly conservative conservative. I doubt that you would ever be mistaken for a thin skinned liberal. However, we both agree on obnoxious brats in restaurants. I have even asked to be seated in the "non kid" section. Not sure where you dine out, but I have never seen kids snitch stuff off my plate or hock a big on onto my eating trough. Three cheers for the geezer who smashed one kid with his cane!!

:+ :+
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Miss Manners has a very effective technique for dealing with other folks' underage miscreants: grab hold of their arm, and say "You musn't do that, because you might get hurt, ok?" While you're explaining, you're squeezing the arm enough to show that they REALLY might get hurt, if they don't knock it off...I have done this, and it worked quite nicely: the brat knew what was up, but the parents saw only concern for their precious angel's welfare, lol.
The servers who risk losing an overloaded tray if they get tripped up by the untended kids running around are the ones who get my sympathy.
 

unorthodoxneon

Expert Expediter
I dont know where you eat at but i've only had one problems with kids and it wasnt directly bothering me. I was at the TA near Seville and some brat kid wanted to taste all the deserts in the buffet before selecting the best one. So we let anyone who was going to get a desert from there and eventually a staff member about it. They took the tray and didnt replace it with anymore.

Storys like this remind me and my girlfriend why we are not planning on having kids. If we do decide to have kids and they want to act this way. I'm a firm believer in the paddle/smack across the butt. Thats how i grew up. And if i was in a public place and acted up i got the "remember what your doing now, that way you'll understand why your butts red later" talk.
 

prescat

Expert Expediter
The city where I now live, (and hopefully not much longer) is about a 70,000 person, combination tourist resort/"yuppie" town. It is populated by a lot of weird people with piercings everywhere, and it's supposed to be a friendly, big "Woodstock" type atmosphere, where everyone just "does their own thing...just with a lot more money. (They try to say its a "mini Vail or Aspen.) Anyway, There are tons of restaurants around here because of the skiiing and summer recreation, but I haven't found one place, (except Denny's maybe..lol) where the food is good. The food here is designed to look artsy, but even the real upscale places serve small portions of bland food, that the clueless peope here like. There are also a million microbrew, little downtown restaurants. Basically you have lots of choices for a smaller area. Anyway, there was a big controversy several months back. Someone wrote an editorial about a nicer restaurant in town, that tried to "discourage" kids/family business". Apparently, they purposely didn't have high chairs or any type of kids menu. Well the writer of the editorial, some whiny lady, was like "How can they do this in a family friendly town". Then all the other selfish whiners 20/30/40 year old "entitled" parents chimed in, "Yeah, this is a family friendly town...let's boycott!" These idiots have 8 million restaurant choices, and this owner gave people that didn't have kids or want kids during an adult dinner a choice. The town has a lot of 20-something year old residents that like to and eat and drink without the unbehaved brats of today, and that was the market the owner was going for. I am so glad he stood his ground and when I read the article, I patronized him the next day. When my adult kids were young, we took them out, but MADE them behave, and we would not have gone to an "upscale restaurant when they were real young". It's not fair to the other patrons, and there are choices
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Now I got to say that when you drop $50 or $75 for a meal, there should be no kids messing up the evening.

I think I don’t ignore things when I go out, like today sitting having breakfast, one of the waitress’ took her break got a cup and poured a cup of coffee and sat down next to me. When my check came, I told the waitress why I was being charged for a cup of coffee when the one sitting next to me got a free cup. The dumb look on her face told me I needed to talk to the manager and that is what I did - I told him it is wrong for any employee to get a free anything in front of a customer, and I should not have to pay for the coffee. It was taken off the bill and I wrote a very nasty letter to flying J about it.

But with kids, I have a habit of getting annoyed over little things like the brat running up and down the isles or the parents who don’t do a thing.

Now the thing with the diaper happened at a steak house, and I normally dropped $50 for a dinner with my wife at this place. I wasn’t the only one who felt that was over the top, so it wasn’t just me but for the most part is something to talk about. I think that parents are just plain lazy and thoughtless.

Prof,
Technically I am not a conservative; I am a classical liberal who does not believe in complete free trade – one of the exceptions. I believe that the right of the individual is the utmost important thing in this country, very closely followed by property rights and no taxation on property is the only thing that preserves our God given rights.

I believe that government should not have expanded SS (I think for people of my age and a little older, we should not get it but phase it out for us), nationalized things in the 30’s like utilities, have NASA continue after they reached the moon or actually have so much power to take our rights away. It is there only to regulate trade between the states and protect our country.

Some would say I tend to follow the American school of thought but I disagree with the protectionism of the country through high tariffs but agree with the physical and financial infrastructure but the latter more along the lines of the American system. However I find Henry Carey’s point of view somewhat along my thoughts of a proper financial infrastructure for the country with a debt free currency.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
>I think I don’t ignore things when I go out, like today
>sitting having breakfast, one of the waitress’ took her
>break got a cup and poured a cup of coffee and sat down next
>to me. When my check came, I told the waitress why I was
>being charged for a cup of coffee when the one sitting next
>to me got a free cup. The dumb look on her face told me I
>needed to talk to the manager and that is what I did - I
>told him it is wrong for any employee to get a free anything
>in front of a customer, and I should not have to pay for the
>coffee. It was taken off the bill and I wrote a very nasty
>letter to flying J about it.

IMO you're being a bit anal, Greg. :p

-True independence can only be gained if you're trully independant.
 
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