Katrina - Five years later

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Isn't it time we start saying to N.O. no more money?

After five years of dealing with the poor people who were so victimized by Bush, they still have half the city rebuilt and still have the same inept government stopping the rebuilding for the other half.

I watched and listened the other day about how the city was stopping people from rebuilding their homes by holding up permits, putting special regulations in place and so much other BS they have to go through just to get permit to rebuild.

They are still screaming how Bush failed the the city and the people, the media is still trying to find someone to blame while the poor guy who wants to rebuild his home - can't.

There are people who say they can't afford the new housing while others within the city planning department seem to think these people don't deserve to live where they used to live because they see dollar signs on the backs of our tax money.

After five years other cities were rebuilt that were devastated by actual hurricanes - Charleston was one which didn't turn into black hole for federal funds.

Now on the fifth year of Katrina, the focus is on N.O. and there is talk of even more money going down there with a couple billion laying around not being used.

I think we need to reexamine our priorities about the federal government being in the disaster business after these hard lessons.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
IMO..they just should have plowed it down and made an amusement/tourist attraction....the next F3 or better and we will be right back at it again....it is asinine to have a city there...below sea level...
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
That's why one of the new building requirements is putting houses on stilts - less apt to flood.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
That's why one of the new building requirements is putting houses on stilts - less apt to flood.

did you see that special on Holland? the engineering is great...houses that actually depart the foundation, float up a set of pillars being collared to them...and when the water goes down the house resettles in the exact spot!!!....and the gates for swell control? wow....
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
did you see that special on Holland? the engineering is great...houses that actually depart the foundation, float up a set of pillars being collared to them...and when the water goes down the house resettles in the exact spot!!!....and the gates for swell control? wow....

Nature can defeat ANY measure that man uses to overcome it, even in Holland. No houses in the flood planes, no amusement park. Restore the marshes.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Nature can defeat ANY measure that man uses to overcome it, even in Holland. No houses in the flood planes, no amusement park. Restore the marshes.

yeah..but it is going to run into the trillions to save that place all the time....

I agree....restore the river to its natural state....

Did you watch that special on the central states flood plains?

They are finally realizing it is better to move some towns and let the water just flow naturally then try to control it...less flooding that way...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
yeah..but it is going to run into the trillions to save that place all the time....

I agree....restore the river to its natural state....

Did you watch that special on the central states flood plains?

They are finally realizing it is better to move some towns and let the water just flow naturally then try to control it...less flooding that way...


There is MUCH we could be doing. It would benefit everyone and wildlife as well.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Holland seems to be an entire country, New Orleans is one city - big difference in attitude and needs.

New Orleans needs to be left to deal with it's own government without federal help. It should have cleaned house with Bus driver Nagan and fixed the city government before anything else. It is obvious that it is more of a failure than any other city in the world.
 

Freightdawg

Expert Expediter
did you see that special on Holland? the engineering is great...houses that actually depart the foundation, float up a set of pillars being collared to them...and when the water goes down the house resettles in the exact spot!!!....and the gates for swell control? wow....

They are actually building some houses like that in New Orleans. I'm not a Brad Pitt fan usually, but he is helping out with promoting new designs for "floating houses" down there. There was a great display in the Museum of Contempary Art in New Orleans. It was pretty impressive.
30 plus years ago I went thru the industrial canal on a towboat and remembered looking down at the houses and thinking that one big breech or flood, and they are gone. Took awhile to happen, but it did!
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
They are actually building some houses like that in New Orleans. I'm not a Brad Pitt fan usually, but he is helping out with promoting new designs for "floating houses" down there. There was a great display in the Museum of Contempary Art in New Orleans. It was pretty impressive.
30 plus years ago I went thru the industrial canal on a towboat and remembered looking down at the houses and thinking that one big breech or flood, and they are gone. Took awhile to happen, but it did!

and it WILL happen again...
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Yea I agree it is a great place for new homes ... the issue isn't the new building but the fact that the city has had a serious issues with the city government which resulted in the flooding and death in the first place.

The real issue that many seem to miss is with all the blame on the feds, the complaining about how poor people are, there is not the renewal that was expected or is actually needed. Instead there is sort of a class war going on with a lot of people who houses will never be fixed up. Deveoplers are moving on building new housing, makes a good profit while the poor of the city have to go through all kinds of BS to get the permits to fix existing homes.

The bigger question is with all the predictions that if another cat 5 hits the area, it will be a repeat of 2005. AND if that happens, will the feds go back in and pay for more rebuilding or will we finally get smart and just use it as a dock.
 
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