IT's all hidden in the numbers from self intrests groups.

moose

Veteran Expediter
last Fri. trucking media was quick to note this unproven statistic :
TheTrucker.com - America's Trucking Newspaper

yet when you read between the lines, this report show drivers fatigue to be very low, according to Oregon DOT.
here's why.
to come up with as high OOS orders as they can, Odot used for this blitz a collaboration with Washington state.
in W.A, the scale houses uses electronics to spy on trucks going down the road.
once a plate is photoed, the time is capture at a software. next time that plate is photoed, the software will calculate if that unit is in compliance with HOS.
if not, that truck will be pulled into the scale for a logbook inspection.
using such info. the Oregon dot pulled ONLY trucks that the software was targeting.
Out of those pulled for inspection, ONLY 25% of the trucks (not the drivers!) was placed OOS, for ALL kind of 'Means & Manners'.
no news of how many of the above OOS violations are even remotely connected to HOS violations, nor fatigue driving.
if any, the Odot blitz show, that drivers passing the the bear states are in compliance with HOS.
this is just one of MANY problems we have with CSA. there's no real way of knowing anymore how many drivers are placed OOS do to fatigue driving.
since such a violation is being wrapped up inside the 'means & manners' section of the 'basic'.
 
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paullud

Veteran Expediter
I wonder what the real numbers are for fatigued driving because we see a small portion of drivers put OOS for HOS violations but you know that the vast majority aren't actually fatigued. We know there are some that aren't caught but they end up in accidents so we know that to be a small percentage as well.

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Monty

Expert Expediter
Oregon, Washington and Idaho use NorPass, which records ALL data in each of the ststes. Those times are compared in all three states as a combined effort to utilize the data. I will not answer just how I know this! :rolleyes:
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
A fellow driver got busted five or six years ago in Oregon. He said they comunicated with another state to verify his "timing".
In '91 or '92 I was running a dedicated run which ran me through Ky four times per week. They had a civilian that typed your plate # into a computer.
They shared this info statewide. It better match your log for the next seven days.
The pratice I thought was ruled illegal.
OOIDA may have been involved. I don't know for sure.
 

EasyDoesIt

Active Expediter
I remember being in a scale house showing my paperwork and they had someone typing in license plates. Now they use EZ Pass, I Pass, fuel receipts from ComData and any other electronic tattletale they can think of.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Interesting juxtaposition: The National Highway Safety Association reports there are 40,000 injuries annually from drowsy driving. [which is approx 2-2.5 % of all accidents]
The Consumer Product Safety Commission reports 15, 000 injuries annually from vehicles that lack seat belts, turn signals and brake lights: golf carts. [Not to mention sober and licensed drivers]
:rolleyes:
Kind of puts it in perspective, eh?
 
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