Is Incorporation Right for Your Business?

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
American Truck Business Services has upgraded its website, making it easier to review that company's products and services. Among the freebies featured there is a white paper entitled, "Is Incorporation Right for your Business?"

This question regularly comes up in the Open Forum. The white paper will be of interest to people who are seriously pondering the question for themselves.

Free Download: Is Incorporation Right for your Business?
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Phil,
This is a good thing ....but as I suggest to others to find people who can setup their business for them and consult with them on a personal level. Maybe ATBS can but every person is different and so is their situation.

Personal involvement means a lot when you have a problem or you need to work with someone who does not look at you as a result of a cookie cutter (an assumption that all trucker's business is the same and need the same services). I always tell people seek out competent people, interview them and get to know your accountant and lawyer, it pays off in the long run.

I added up the cost of using ATBS for the first year with the premium service and it comes out tojust a bit more than I paid in both legal advice and accounting work for my other business in one year where I gave them a lot of work to do - including the incorporation (state fees too) ATBS came to $3020.

The incorporation is a no brainer and anyone can do it - the states in some cases offer free advice and the last time I looked mine even had an online step by step web site that one can use, surely not worth the $500 ATBS is asking. My state I think has changed it to $125 plus a $50 filing fee per year. Pretty easy to do

But both you and I know that incorporation does not mean you the owner of the corporation can not lose personal assets if something happens nor does it mean that you can avoid paying taxes, which seems to be both a theme for a lot of the paper pusher companies.

I was going to go down the incorporation road but decided not to at the last minute because during my interviewing of accountants to replaced my former retired accountant, I was shown a better way to offset taxes for next year instead of incorporation.

But I am not saying that ATBS is a bad thing, talking to them before I found them friendly and accurate but I also think that people need to shop around because like carriers, financial advice is a personal thing.

By the way Phil, this looks like Copy, you with them now as an adviser? Just kidding.....
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
On the surface they sound expensive for a generalized service.
 

Batman

Seasoned Expediter
Gregg,
If your not incorporated, did you set your business as a Limited Liability Company?
Just curious because I am looking to do courier/delivery work as an IC in the Indy Metro area with a delivery/courier company and my accountant suggested the LLC versus incorporating. Your highly respected thoughts would be appreciated.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Gregg,
If your not incorporated, did you set your business as a Limited Liability Company?
Just curious because I am looking to do courier/delivery work as an IC in the Indy Metro area with a delivery/courier company and my accountant suggested the LLC versus incorporating. Your highly respected thoughts would be appreciated.

Nope, LLC still offers me little protection for my purpose from some of the liabilities that are created in this business being an Owner/Operator. As I realized the other day with my brake mess, the burden is on me as an owner and my assets are still at risk if I play dual rolls as CEO and Operator. I have already seen people incur a loss because they thought they could walk away from an incident but the courts didn't see the corporation as a separate entity from the person.

BUT don't listen to me what I do or know, listen to the serious advice I have, which has been consistent for the time I have been here on EO;

Everyone's situation is different.

Don't think that you can just incorporate (LLC is a form of corporation) and be safe.

Get legal and financial advise from professionals on how to protect yourself by setting things up as they tell you tonight the first time, not correct things when something happens.

Don't depend on tax preparers, financial 'adviser' for tax planning, go to a real accountant (or an EA) and get the skinny that way.

Don't forget this is a business, be it a courier business or trucking and nothing is for free.
 

Batman

Seasoned Expediter
Gregg,
Thanks for the info.
I intend to seek the advice of my accountant & attorney on the best way to set this up.
Guys like you & A Team are a blessing to those of us seeking sound advice in this business.
 
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barkri12

Guest
If you're considering incorporating your business, but you're unsure as to whether or not it's the right path to take, this article should provide you with the key points you need to consider

When you incorporate your business, you're legally separating it from yourself and officially giving it a separate legal identity.

Before incorporation, you as the owner of the business, personally own the assets of the business. But, far more importantly, you are also personally responsible for its debts and liabilities. This means that if your business fails, your own personal assets are at risk!

Therefore it may be a significant benefit to you, if you decide to incorporate your business as you will protect your personal property and assets.

After becoming incorporated, you will only be personally liable for amounts owed by the business up to the amount you have invested in the business.

Beyond your invested capital, you will have no further personal liability for the settlement of debts owed to your business's creditors, unless of course, you have signed separate personal guarantees for any specific loans or debts.

Personal guarantees may be necessary where your business has little trading history, or where your balance sheet is not robust enough to provide sufficient guarantees to lenders.

There is also another benefit of incorporation. Another point to consider is that following incorporation, your business is protected from your own personal debts and cannot be damaged by your own credit problems.

You should also be aware that, should for any reason your incorporated business cease to trade, all of its creditors and liabilities must be paid before you receive any of your invested capital back. Basically, in times of trouble, shareholders are always the last in line for repayment.

Your decision to incorporate your business is a very important one, particularly if you're expecting to expand your business in the future. Incorporated companies will often find it easier to raise new capital required for expansion from financial institutions.

Incorporating your business sends a message to the financial world that your business will be around for the long term, and that feeling of security makes it easier to find additional finance.

Becoming incorporated also allows you to transfer ownership of your business easily. Separation of the business's assets and liabilities from your personal assets makes it easier to value your business. Incorporating your company simplifies the use of retirement plans and insurance schemes.

Once incorporated, your company is governed by its Board of Directors. The Directors are elected by the shareholders, who then act as agents of the company on behalf of the shareholders.

Finally, business tax rates are much lower than personal tax rates. There are some issues of double taxation to consider though. Whilst there may be tax benefits, there will be some additional legal costs and administration costs associated with being an incorporated company to consider.:)

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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Greg wrote:

Don't depend on tax preparers, financial 'adviser' for tax planning, go to a real accountant (or an EA) and get the skinny that way.

That is excellent advise. My accountant who handles all of my busiesses and has for almost 15 yrs, wouldn't advise me on incorporating each time I asked about it. I always refered me to another Accountant that had more experience in this area as that person also had me meet with a lawyer.

As Greg said, the set-up is no big deal, its making sure of just what you need exactly to rpotect yourself and your ersonal assets..........Take Gregs advise and spend a few bucks for good professional advise and guidence........
 
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