Interesting Presidents Painting...

dieseldiva · Oct 2, 2010

Very nicely done video of an absolutely beautiful painting. As a disclaimer, the narrator focuses on Obama (understandably) and the poster believes there were many problems when he got to the White House, he just put them all on steroids....Just for the record.

The Forgotten Man

LDB · Oct 2, 2010

What an exceptional piece with so many subtle but powerful points. I can almost see some of the best presidents of the past taking Obama apart and perhaps a few of the other more recent office desecraters as well.

dieseldiva · Oct 2, 2010

LDB said:
What an exceptional piece with so many subtle but powerful points. I can almost see some of the best presidents of the past taking Obama apart and perhaps a few of the other more recent office desecraters as well.

Did you follow the link to his website? Even more nice paintings....what a talent this man has been given!

greg334 · Oct 2, 2010

Two blaring issues with the painting;

Lincoln should be standing over behind the Clinton and others while Reagan needs to be just on the edge of that group.

Lincoln for his time did as much damage to the constitution and the country as did Clinton, Bush and Obama has. Within 4 short years he changed the entire country from individual and states right to govern themselves to the right of the federal government to govern the country.

layoutshooter · Oct 2, 2010

greg334 said:
Two blaring issues with the painting;

Lincoln should be standing over behind the Clinton and others while Reagan needs to be just on the edge of that group.

Lincoln for his time did as much damage to the constitution and the country as did Clinton, Bush and Obama has. Within 4 short years he changed the entire country from individual and states right to govern themselves to the right of the federal government to govern the country.

Yep, Lincoln was NO GOOD for our country. He was wrong. Had he just stepped back a bit slavery would have ended on it's own. It was becoming economically unsound already.

greg334 · Oct 2, 2010

NOPE it wasn't a slavery issue I am driving at.

See the civil war was actually a war between the states, not a war on the states and he started to expand government by invading individual states with federal troops. He also allowed federal troops to enter NYC in the summer of '63 to restore order.

There were a lot of things done to preserve the union which was setup just to be able to split apart under the right conditions, and these were the right conditions. BUT if Booth didn't kill him, his plan would have been to bring the south back into the union and end slavery by the end of the century.

layoutshooter · Oct 2, 2010

greg334 said:
NOPE it wasn't a slavery issue I am driving at.

See the civil war was actually a war between the states, not a war on the states and he started to expand government by invading individual states with federal troops. He also allowed federal troops to enter NYC in the summer of '63 to restore order.

There were a lot of things done to preserve the union which was setup just to be able to split apart under the right conditions, and these were the right conditions. BUT if Booth didn't kill him, his plan would have been to bring the south back into the union and end slavery by the end of the century.

Slavery was the EXCUSE to eliminate "States Rights" not the true issue.

I wonder what things would have been like had Booth struck oil near Titusville/Oil City? THAT would have been interesting. Sounds like a good story line for a modern production of the "Twilight Zone", assuming that there are still writers of Rod Serlings caliber.

LDB · Oct 2, 2010

I did look at the website and it's got a lot of cool stuff on it.

greg334 · Oct 3, 2010

layoutshooter said:
Sounds like a good story line for a modern production of the "Twilight Zone", assuming that there are still writers of Rod Serlings caliber.

Actually Rod Serling did an episode about a guy who travels back in time to 1864 and misses the chance to stop Booth or something like that. It was called "Back There" and it aired in '61.

layoutshooter · Oct 3, 2010

greg334 said:
Actually Rod Serling did an episode about a guy who travels back in time to 1864 and misses the chance to stop Booth or something like that. It was called "Back There" and it aired in '61.

I don't recall that episode, I will have to look at it. Things would have turned out differently had Booth's oil wells not turned up dry. I am not saying that things would have been better or worse, just different.