Indiana college to not play nationa anthem

Ragman

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Indiana college to not play national anthem

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Thu Aug 25 07:07pm EDT

Indiana college not playing the national anthem sparks debate
By Jeff Eisenberg


Visiting fans who attend a basketball game, or any sporting event, at Goshen College this season may be surprised by the patriotic song they hear over the loudspeakers minutes before tipoff.

The Northern Indiana school has decided to play "America the Beautiful" prior to sporting events instead of the "Star-Spangled Banner" because the lyrics better fit the pacifist ideals of a Mennonite campus whose motto is "Healing the World, Peace by Peace."

Adopting "America the Beautiful" is Goshen president James E. Brenneman's attempt to end a debate over the national anthem that has engulfed his school for almost two years.

Goshen College had never played the national anthem before a sporting event until March 2010 when the school began playing an instrumental version at the urging of Brenneman. In a lengthy statement explaining the change in policy, Brenneman said, "I am committed to retaining the best of what it means to be a Mennonite college, while opening the doors wider to all who share our core values."

The practice of playing the national anthem before games was immediately controversial among the 1,000-person student body, 58 percent of which belong to the Mennonite faith built on pacifism and global citizenship. Complaints from students and alumni eventually caused school officials to put an end to the short-lived ritual of playing the anthem at sporting events in June.

What bothered many at Goshen College about the "Star-Spangled Banner" was imagery from the War of 1812 that Francis Scott Key included. Goshen spokesman Richard R. Aguirre told the Chicago Tribune that lyrics such as "the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air" were "inconsistent to the entire message we were trying to send."

Seeking a compromise that would satisfy both factions at his school, Brenneman considered numerous patriotic songs before announcing last Friday that "America the Beautiful" would be the replacement for the national anthem at Goshen. In a statement released that day, Brenneman explained his choice by pointing out that it's easily recognizable, it honors the country and it fits with Goshen's core values.

"Though some may or may not agree with the alternative recommended here, I call now on each one of us to move beyond this decision and turn our attention to other important matters before us," Brenneman said. "May God help Goshen College become one of the most welcoming places on earth for all who come to our campus."

Brenneman's attempt at compromise may have satisfied some students and alumni, but the decision has sparked protest and derision from many outsiders.

"Goshen College should be banned from NCAA competition until they start playing the National Anthem again," one man tweeted. Wrote another, "Goshen looks horrible. Its a tragedy that my brother is still forced to go to such a prison of a school."
 
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greg334

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The star spangled banner should not have been adopted as our national anthem any way, America the Beautiful is a better song and should have been selected.
 

skyraider

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LOL,,if u dont like the food, the music, the decor, u aint gotta go to any event, so dont attend the games, duhhhhhhhhhhh


Is this rocket science?
 

layoutshooter

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What does the quality of the music have to do with it?

This IS interesting. The Mennonites have always been anti-war and this would be consistent with their beliefs which, thanks to the military that formed and protect this country, is their right.

This allows for some interesting argument.
 

scottm4211

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What is the genesis of playing any anthem before a sporting event?

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layoutshooter

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Why do you think I'm slighting the tradition? I'm simply asking how it started, and why for sporting events.


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I did not say you were slighting any thing. I took a guess as to why it was like that here and asked if you knew why Canada did, that's all. Sorry if you took it wrong.
 

Moot

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How dare a private college opt to play "America The Beautiful" instead of the "Star Spangled Banner". Does the Department of Homeland Security know about these terrorists?
 

skyraider

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How dare a private college opt to play "America The Beautiful" instead of the "Star Spangled Banner". Does the Department of Homeland Security know about these terrorists?

That reminds me, I called the Homeland Security Phone 2 or 3 years ago at High Noon. I did get a person, but the rest of them were out to lunch he said. I wanted to ask a quesion and he said I would need to call back. I said we got a war going on and u all are out to lunch, what kind of outfit is this. U all try it and see if anyone is there at Noon. If terriost attack at noon, they got an hour before anyone cares.....................:eek:
 

RLENT

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Oh brother ...... here we go .... :rolleyes:

This allows for some interesting argument.
Very possibly the understatement of the year ...... :rolleyes:

The Mennonites have always been anti-war and this would be consistent with their beliefs which, thanks to the military that formed and protect this country, is their right.
Seriously ?

..... you're frickin' kidding ... right ?

First off, this country was not created or formed by "the military" .... (some quick references for ya to bone up on: American Revolution, United States Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, US Constitution)

Secondly, it is certainly arguable whether the military currently "protects" this country ..... or whether, by ill-conceived adventurism (which many in the military willingly participate in), it, in fact, actually endangers this country ......

Third, and perhaps most significantly, Mennonites' (and any other human beings') rights, according to the Founders of this country, come from the Creator ...... not the military.

People, inherently, always have these rights, whether or not some military exists ..... that's why they are called UNALIENABLE RIGHTS

One can not surrender, sell, or transfer unalienable rights - they are a gift from the Creator to the individual and can not under any circumstances be surrendered or taken.

All individual's have unalienable rights.

Your turn .... :D
 
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RLENT

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How dare a private college opt to play "America The Beautiful" instead of the "Star Spangled Banner". Does the Department of Homeland Security know about these terrorists?
That was my first thought as well ....
 
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