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Broompilot · Jan 9, 2006

Fessing up that I have always been a conservative... The one item I really am discusted with is BIG COMPANIES screwing us small guys. (In response to another Post) Lawyers and Greed or vs vs are the blame here and more Greed than the prior.

Our system is set up against small people. Take a look at what Insurance companies are doing to the X-homeowners in N.O. they are offering them about 50% of what they are really entitled to in exchange for a FAST buy out. The insurance companies know these people are in dier straits thus taking advantage of them and offering them pennies on the dollar in exchange for signing over everything with no recourse against the insurance co. These people paid the full amount of the premiums and are entitled to every dime not a %.

The same will happen to us if we are ever involved in an accident they know we do not have deep pockets to fight them and even if we did they would drag it out to wear us down.

Big business only cares about itself there is no emotion, no feelings no nothing except that a President and its Board members make gobbs and gobbs of $ from screwing us John Q public. Enron, Gas Companies, you name it if its big our backs are against the wall.

Just an example of dealing with big business without any care about us the small guy (back bone of America). This industry has really opened my eyes to this view point I have seen it more in the last year than in my previous 44.

davekc · Jan 9, 2006

Sad, but a direction that many companies and industries are following. And in many ways, the world of money and politics drives the whole thing.

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greg334 · Jan 9, 2006

>Sad, but a direction that many companies and industries are
>following. And in many ways, the world of money and politics
>drives the whole thing.

Don't forget Egos

davekc · Jan 9, 2006

How true on the egoes

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guest · Jan 14, 2006

BP's comment about being conservative reminds me of Winston Churchill's comment: "show me a young man who is not liberal and I will show you a man with no heart; show me an old man who is not conservative and I will show you a fool."

As for me, I'm 35, which makes me a moderate, I suppose.

joebob1_30132 · Jan 16, 2006

The only responsibilty the "big co"have is to its shareholders, which these days are people like my dad,uncle,nieghbor all very middle class,more lower middle class and up ,through their mutual funds,401s and other retirment plans own stock,its not just for the big guy anymore, your attitudes resemble those of yor union brothers, you know the same ones that are making UPS 2nd rate to fed ex,DELTA,which takes your tax money to keep proping itself up, Ford,Gm,need I say more, teachers unions, which has slowly gutted our education system. MY dad uncles friends co woekers (black andwhite,) are dancing in the streets with their profits on their stocks right now...Some New orleans people Had no flood insurace.. heck the town has been there 200+ years Hurricanes have been here for 1000000000's years >>>NO secrets there dont cry to me about your problems they knew the score.they have no special rights just like the rich peoples homes in California sliding off the hills ... quit your crying.. you want your company your government to do some hand holding..... PLease

greg334 · Jan 16, 2006

Danny I completely disagree with you, the â€œBig Companyâ€ is not there for the stock holders, it is there for the bonuses, the perks and the golden parachutes for their upper management. They donâ€™t look at anything else but upper management perks.

I have a very cynical attitude about the corporate world and upper management, even though I loved being in a matrix environment, too much fun. I have seen a lot of stuff that you would not believe goes on, way beyond any John Grisham novel. While many of you enjoyed working in the corporate world, very few ever work with the upper management of a fortune 500 companies, let alone any of the fortune 5 companies. REALLY BIG EGOS and BIG PAYCHECKS.

Look at the bankruptcies of companies like Kmart and some of the air lines, tell me where are the stock holders concerns are being met? Kmart creditors talked a judge into trashing all the previous stock and replacing it with new stock, wiping out S S Kresge and the investments of the people who believed in the company - a hundred or so years of being in business, all gone to benefit a few individuals who made millions. It was not the fault of the pensioner who invested 30 or so years into the company, the actual majority stockholders outside of the company itself.

The UAW does not has millions of dollars of stock and has not been placed on the board of GM, Ford and many of the supplies for their workers but for the money and the returns that are made knowing when to sell or buy the stock, yes a form of insider trading.

I find that pensions that donâ€™t diverse their pension holdings and put it into a single stock, i.e. company stock will not do well at all and may eventually fail. Many companies that run the pensions themselves (which I think should be illegal) raid the pension to hedge inflation, fight bad times for the company and as a cash reserve for accounting reasons. My dadâ€™s union did the right thing, they manage it outside the tentacles of the company and are held accountable for the loses, one of the few that are setup right. A notable pension raiding situation happened here in Michigan where some famous piece of C**P baseball player, Denny something or another, was part of a team that stole money away from pensions and drove a viable business into the ground. He and his partner did jail tie, but not enough as far as I or many of the victims were concern. Poor Denny, everyone feel sorry for him, NOT.

Like I said, it is all about Egos.

joebob1_30132 · Jan 16, 2006

Union leaders, are counted in with those fat cats, my brother, serving no one but themselves. In a unions socialist view of america it is there right to suck the resorces dryof a company with what hve you done for me latly Once there parasitic ways finish consuming their host. they will move on to consume my tax dollors with unemployment,welfare,and food,stamps because they cannont servive without Big Brother Daddy big Gov all holding their hand to the trough of other peoples hard work. Their kind will willoffer nothing new,they will not start a better company, they will simply stand there with their hands out going more more more more .. example.. europe.. theya re a disaster. Although unions had there place in history with some good things their usfulness went the way Carl Marx,Lenin,Castros Cuba (thats a winning concept).Their kids will work for Chang,Lopez,AhMED, AND ESPECIALLY MY DAUGHTER ..she gets it because their daddies coulnt do nothing for themselves and cried "u have to take care of me " I cannot do it myself, I need more more more. The world is passing your kind by brother, its not to late , have faith in yourself.. quit crying..and JUST GET R DONE

Broompilot · Jan 23, 2006

Joe Bob, crying no I am not and gettenRdone you obviously dont know me.

But tired of companies ripping off consumers, look at any credit card offering you get EXAMPLE #1 As for N.O.L. if one did not have enough common sense living there to have flood insurance I agree with you, but these insurance co. are doing there very best to take advantage of people in a situation that is unimiagnable down on ones luck so lets kick harder EXAMPLE #2 Now wana make things we both depend on look at all the X-tra little charges on your Cell Phone Bill EXAMPLE #3. Take your truck to any Dealer except where you purcahsed it at give them oh one odd thing to fix that you could do or know someone who could do it but dont ask them to quote you price just please fix it and see what you get charged EXAMPLE #4.

GOT THE PICUTURE Mr. I dont feel sorry for anyone, Liberal I am not but being screwed over is B.S. and Politicans should not be allowed to make careers out of office as big co. just buy into what ever fits their agenda.$$$$$$$$$$$

cheri1122 · Jan 24, 2006

JoeBob, what planet do you live on? Because here on Earth, things are different. Unions began to offer the workers some protection from the management that could, and would, grind them up & spit out the bones. Just one example: ever heard of the Triangle Shirtwaist Company of New York? When the place went up in flames, almost every worker died, because management had locked them in, & piled so much stuff in front of the few emergency doors that they couldn't be opened! You say "that was a long time ago, it wouldn't happen today"? Tell it to the families who just buried the dead miners in W Va - the company could have provided transponders for the workers, to guide the rescuers to them, but in spite of the liklihood that a rescue would be needed, given thier safety record, management chose not to provide the equipment. The profits were more important. (If that's how a capitalist society works, I'll take Socialism) The unions don't suck anywhere near the resources that executives who collect millions to make bad decisions can take from a company, along with the "golden parachutes" they get when the company is finally bankrupt. If the workers then have to "consume tax dollars", after working every day for 10-25 yrs at jobs that no one would call easy, it's because there aren't any jobs anymore that even pay a living wage. Corporate greed has moved them all overseas! Why hasn't the minimum wage been raised in so long that several states are passing laws requiring living wages, while executive compensation is steadily going ever higher, from excessive, through exorbitant, to stratospheric? Because the workers are to blame?
When the factory where I worked for eight years, doing a lot of difficult, dirty, and dangerous jobs, closed the doors, hundreds of people were out of a job, many who'd shown up every day for 20 years & earned every penny every day. I heard what many of them found instead, & in every case it was a job that didn't pay as much, but they took it. It's called a work ethic, & nobody keeps a job without it, except management. As I just said in another post: unions got away with demanding high wages only after management set the precedent by awarding themselves overly generous compensation, is that labor's fault too?

>Union leaders, are counted in with those fat cats, my
>brother, serving no one but themselves. In a unions
>socialist view of america it is there right to suck the
>resorces dryof a company with what hve you done for me latly
>Once there parasitic ways finish consuming their host. they
>will move on to consume my tax dollors with
>unemployment,welfare,and food,stamps because they cannont
>servive without Big Brother Daddy big Gov all holding their
>hand to the trough of other peoples hard work. Their kind
>will willoffer nothing new,they will not start a better
>company, they will simply stand there with their hands out
>going more more more more .. example.. europe.. theya re a
>disaster. Although unions had there place in history with
>some good things their usfulness went the way Carl
>Marx,Lenin,Castros Cuba (thats a winning concept).Their kids
>will work for Chang,Lopez,AhMED, AND ESPECIALLY MY DAUGHTER
>..she gets it because their daddies coulnt do nothing for
>themselves and cried "u have to take care of me " I cannot
>do it myself, I need more more more. The world is passing
>your kind by brother, its not to late , have faith in
>yourself.. quit crying..and JUST GET R DONE

Lawrence · Jan 24, 2006

The real culprit is - economic globalization. That means taking the industrial power of North America, moving it to Asia, Mexico and beyond and forcing Americans to compete with third world wages.

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