I used to be proud

atmcffesuk

Not a Member
I used to be proud to drive for a big name like FDXCC not anymore...The first thing I really love about FDXCC is getting a really great run offer taking us close to home with very little DH to p/u and paying typical FDXCC pay .90 cents a mile and accepting it as fast as we can only to get a beep 3 seconds later saying, sorry stupid someone just as stupid as you took the run....sorry about that. The good thing is even though you were the only truck checked in and had a less than 75 but still didnt get the run is, that when you call in you cant talk to a human or when you do get a human after 10 min. on hold they say, I DONT KNOW, I CANT FIGURE IT OUT,LET ME SEE,DO YOU HAVE A C.C? MAYBE UM WELL , WAIT A SECOND....NOPE. HUMMMM I DONT KNOW. I KNOW YOUR A IDIOT BUT HUMMM HOW DO I TELL YOU HUMMM..HOLD ON I GOT IT THE TRUCK WAS CLOSER TO P/U. SORRY.But paying $30 a week for Qcomm makes us feel a lot better about fairness in load dispatching. We have been with the purple vampire for 15 years and have spent close to $22,000 for that Qcomm now only to rcv messages saying sorry sucka you didnt get that $12000 dollar run hahaha....but thats okay because the next one will be better, DH 657 miles to P\U a 6 mile run for $218 dollars so ha ha on you. If we all only had all the money in the bank to fall on in hard times like FDX does it wouldnt hurt so bad.....:(
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Wow in 15 years as an expediter you post on EO 4 times and all are negative. That is a long time to dislike your business.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Wow in 15 years as an expediter you post on EO 4 times and all are negative. That is a long time to dislike your business.

Have to agree. He might want to get his own authority if he has been suffering that long.
 

fastrod

Expert Expediter
I do not think that he has been suffering that long. I think he is disgusted at the recent changes at Fedex that have lowered his income. First Fedex started skimming some of the fuel surcharge and now they are slashing rates.
 

D Team Brothers

Expert Expediter
I try not to give advice because I consider myself still new to this and learning, but. You've given 15 good years, dedicated to the company of your own chosing. Fifteen years where you built a strong relationship between customers, company, and yourself. What could have happenned that was so bad that it destroyed all this? I'm sure that this disaster, pitfall, or whatever happened would be a great benifit for what to watch out for, etc. So, please relate your story so we might learn. Oh yes, about that advice; I'll us a term recently used by one of the more experienced people on this forum, maybe you should "WAKE UP".
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
When times were good in this business you could succeed in spite of not knowing the business. If you didn't make the effort to learn the business in the meantime, now that times are bad you don't have a clue as to what to do. The easy money isn't coming as easy anymore, and many are either unwilling or unable to adapt.
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Whoever accepts the load that can service the customer the best, GETS THE LOAD.

I've gotten loads over other vans because I carry a 2/4 wheel dolly so I can do inside pickups, I've gotten loads over other vans because the customer called in and wanted it picked up within the hour (instead of the 90 minutes) and I was the closest. I've lost loads for the same reason too. I've been at the far end of an express center and had less than 75's but lost out because there was a guy at the opposite end of the express center practically next door to the customer.

As for the fuel surcharge, mine is laid out in my contract and I get it when I'm supposed to.

All we see in our truck is OUR world. The DVA see's the whole world and makes it's decisions based on the big picture. There are a lot of times that seems to throw a screw into YOUR world because you can't see the WHOLE world and realize what's going on. FedEx has to care about the customers before us. They need the customer more than us now more than ever.

If you think it sucks, call your CC, if you don't like the answer, move on. If your this ticked off you aren't doing anyone any good, you get stressed which stinks for you and guess what, it likely shows to the customers when you do pick up and that stinks for the rest of us.
 

ConfusedMuse

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Well, perhaps FEDEXCC isn't slashing their rates... maybe their not passing the true gross along to you the truck/van/TT driver?? Their already keeping part of your FSC, why not keep some of the gross? Our last run with the FEDs was a run from NY to VA @.32 a mile, barely enough to put fuel in the tank, and get us back close to our stompin grounds.
Do the Feds still pack their orientation classes? Cause if they do, there's the reason that the rates are dropping... you won't accept the new rates....well that's OK we just hired on 30 more drivers that'll be more than happy to accept our new rates.

We shoulda have clicked when we were told we couldn't park our truck on their property, that there was a guard on duty behind a locked door.... could it be because there are people out here who have mortaged their homes to the hilt on the whims of a recruiter who needs to make their quota for that month? Sure !!! You CAN & WILL make over 100,000.00 in your first year, gross, before deductions.

It's driver, O/O beware..... sadly alot of these people didn't really look at all the angles.REALLY ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Well, perhaps FEDEXCC isn't slashing their rates... maybe their not passing the true gross along to you the truck/van/TT driver?? Their already keeping part of your FSC, why not keep some of the gross? Our last run with the FEDs was a run from NY to VA @.32 a mile, barely enough to put fuel in the tank, and get us back close to our stompin grounds.
Do the Feds still pack their orientation classes? Cause if they do, there's the reason that the rates are dropping... you won't accept the new rates....well that's OK we just hired on 30 more drivers that'll be more than happy to accept our new rates.

We shoulda have clicked when we were told we couldn't park our truck on their property, that there was a guard on duty behind a locked door.... could it be because there are people out here who have mortaged their homes to the hilt on the whims of a recruiter who needs to make their quota for that month? Sure !!! You CAN & WILL make over 100,000.00 in your first year, gross, before deductions.

It's driver, O/O beware..... sadly alot of these people didn't really look at all the angles.REALLY ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS

Bingo
Gotta look at ALL the angles. But...they have cut their rates. As to whether they pass the appropriate percentage to the O/O is another question? Ask for a BOL with all tariffs listed. If they refuse, then you have your answer.
 
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piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Our last run with the FEDs was a run from NY to VA @.32 a mile, barely enough to put fuel in the tank, and get us back close to our stompin grounds.

You took the run...is that FedEx's fault?

And it has been discussed before, there is a municipal bylaw that prevents overnight truck parking at the Fed.

As for the guard, you will find those at most FedEx facilities as a corporate wide deal, it also makes good sense to protect your employee's inside from any outside threats be it by a guard or a locked door. Those threats don't have to be contractors, spousal rage, fired employee etc. It happens....a lot.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Well, perhaps FEDEXCC isn't slashing their rates... maybe their not passing the true gross along to you the truck/van/TT driver??

Duh....

Air Expedite loads come to mind, you do not get a percentage of a lot of the AE loads, you get a percentage of an inter-company rate.

I know of one shipment that was a $14,000 cost to the shipper. To transport the container from the air plane to the warehouse was $6000 billed to the shipper and that was for one reefer truck one way. The owner didn't get $3750 but got $750 for the 15 mile trip and five hours of holding the thing on the truck while it cleared customs, which it almost didn't. FedEx was not obliged to give the amount they charged the customer but gave what CC was charging Supply Chain and it was the owner who knew the people at the shipper and who asked them to see the actual bill so he found out what they actually charged.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
This is one of those "the percentage works in your favor":rolleyes:
If some only knew
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Dave can you clarify your comment?

Read Greg's post. Many companies use a third party/inter-"company" to run freight through. It is used to drop the percentage to the truck legally. Unless one actually sees the bill to the original customer, the carrier can make it anything they want.
There is always the argument that "if it pays enough" then it is ok. Based on what I see some of the rates at for percentage companies, it is of value to know what the customer is really paying. If you run on mileage, it only matters what the contracted mileage rate is. Starting to see a lot of posts with very low mileage rates. All of them have been from a percentage based carrier.
Hope that clarifies it a little.
 

60MPH

Expert Expediter
Dave you let the cat out of the bag with that one. I don't know many other people that actually know that, It's apart of business people yall better wake up if you think your carrier is giving you the full cut 100% of the time. This does not apply to rate per mile contacts of course. I can not believe some of the rates some of yall are willing to take "just to keep moving" it does not make anysense. Stand up and ask for more money if the load does not pay enough. I would say 99% of the time the carrier has more to give and they just do not want to part with it.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I can give you another example too....

Another part of the company books three loads from one shipper, all loads are third party pay or bill to consignee but the shipper is being quoted the work and it is processed under the shipper name with the run numbers not assigned.

It is small enough to put on a straight truck so it is sent over to the expedite division with the 'adjusted inter-company rate'. It is not time sensitive by any means.

The computer finds a truck, makes the offer to the driver, he accepts because it is more money than normally offered for a load like this (weight, distance and so on). After delivery, they pay the driver for one load and two additional stops (instead of three separate loads) based on the inter-company rate because it is the way the run is setup and handed off.

However, when it is billed, it is billed by the part of the company that actually took the load in the first place and for a lot more money but the driver will not see the bills because the expedite part bills the other part of the company and that is what the revenue share is based on.

I think I explained it right.

My point is that it doesn't matter as long as the driver is happy with the rate they have accepted, the customer gets served and the company makes money. But with that said, most of the companies will be honest, just don't think that they will not try to squeeze money out of work in hard times.
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Good response_ if there was good news to cheer about, then there would be only positive posts. Mostly on this site anymore, are the ones who will sit out here too broke to pay attention. Guess what- all the carriers are waiting for the upturn so they can pay us what they used to: ha, what a crock. I do not even do strictly expedite anymore- traveling less and making same few dollars...
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
You know dude, the gun on the cover is fairly disgusting. Better to keep that to yourself- or go post on gun web site...
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
My point is that it doesn't matter as long as the driver is happy with the rate they have accepted, the customer gets served and the company makes money. But with that said, most of the companies will be honest, just don't think that they will not try to squeeze money out of work in hard times.

It's posts like this that make me glad you are back Greg..

Haul the freight at a rate you can live with, if you think the rate is low DON"T TAKE THE LOAD!! Just because somewhere in the accounting books the customer paid a lot more doesn't mean you deserve it. Every division of a company needs to take their cut, just like a load that has gone through a few brokers before it gets to you. Bottom line is the decision to take the freight at a given rate is yours.....nobody else.
 
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