Huge New Oil field in TX found...

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I'm sure the libs will find some endangered bug or weed to stop production. It's what they do best... impede progress.
 

EnglishLady

Veteran Expediter
Yep, bet they try to stop it. They want our economy to go away.


a quote from the link above .....


"But there are also environmental concerns about whether fracking pushes methane contamination into drinking-water wells. New York has put a six-month moratorium on drilling and parts of Texas also have imposed temporary bans. There are also questions about contamination from fracking chemicals, which are an industrial secret.

Those states are years ahead of us in developing wellfields and it's likely that they can provide us with answers about safety. Let's not rush into the business. We need answers before we know this is a bonanza without a worrisome downside."
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
a quote from the link above .....


"But there are also environmental concerns about whether fracking pushes methane contamination into drinking-water wells. New York has put a six-month moratorium on drilling and parts of Texas also have imposed temporary bans. There are also questions about contamination from fracking chemicals, which are an industrial secret.

Those states are years ahead of us in developing wellfields and it's likely that they can provide us with answers about safety. Let's not rush into the business. We need answers before we know this is a bonanza without a worrisome downside."

The problem is that the left wing "environmentalists" have a credibility gap.

They have often made things looked worst then the might really, be, fudged data, made up data, refuse to recognize improvements that have been made and on and on.

They once said that Lake Erie was "dead" and would never recover, it is now one of the BEST fisheries in the world. Water quality is very good now and getting better every day. What did they do to keep things looking bad? Changed the levels that some things are dangerous at from parts per million to parts per billion.

Almost everything is far cleaner than it was 30 years ago.

The first thing I ever saw on "global warming" was in 1980-81 time frame. A BBC science thing I saw in when living in England. They stated then that Washington DC would be under 4' of water by the year 2000. Too bad that did not happen, would have done every one a favor had it happened.

They cried "wolf" one time too many. I don't trust them.
 

EnglishLady

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The problem is that the left wing "environmentalists" have a credibility gap.

They have often made things looked worst then the might really, be, fudged data, made up data, refuse to recognize improvements that have been made and on and on.

They once said that Lake Erie was "dead" and would never recover, it is now one of the BEST fisheries in the world. Water quality is very good now and getting better every day. What did they do to keep things looking bad? Changed the levels that some things are dangerous at from parts per million to parts per billion.

Almost everything is far cleaner than it was 30 years ago.

The first thing I ever saw on "global warming" was in 1980-81 time frame. A BBC science thing I saw in when living in England. They stated then that Washington DC would be under 4' of water by the year 2000. Too bad that did not happen, would have done every one a favor had it happened.

They cried "wolf" one time too many. I don't trust them.



LOL ok maybe this will help ...... it is also happening in the UK ..

Results of controversial 'fracking' for shale gas in UK will be kept secret | Business | The Guardian
 

EnglishLady

Veteran Expediter
Sorry, don't buy it.

Like the "global flooding" that is going to happen. Just how high are water levels going to rise if all the worlds sea ice melts?

They have been 'fraking' in PA for over 100 years.


But not on this scale - even the drilling Companies don't know what is going to happen to the "reservoir" of contaminated water that they will be unable to get out.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
But not on this scale - even the drilling Companies don't know what is going to happen to the "reservoir" of contaminated water that they will be unable to get out.

Then drill for "free oil" not locked up in rocks. They won't let us do that either. They are fighting the "coal to oil" plants. No nuke plants, they don't want anything.

Again, I don't trust those "sky are falling" crews. They ain't been right yet.

ALGORE is a joke.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The Viking moved onto Greenland during a period of "Global Warming" similar to what we see today. They left in part due to "Global Cooling"

All of that took place long before the industrial revolution.

Nothing new under the sun. This has happened before and will happen again.

VERY funny article below. Even though evidence shows that this warming and cooling as happened in the past they STILL blame man for what we see today.

What a joke.

Cold climate forced Vikings out of Greenland | Mail Online
 

golfournut

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Most of central and eastern Texas's water comes from underground aquafers or rivers that start in west Texas and travel 600-800 miles underground. We were the 3rd ranch from where the Frio river surfaces in Leaky Texas. All our water came straight from the river via pump straight to the house. It is that way in almost all rual areas. Whether from well, spring, river, lake or artesian well that's our water. We don't have snow caps or huge rivers coming in from out of state bring in the water. If the water goes, so does everything else. Will the oil companies supply all the water in the future if they contaminate the subsurface water? In Texas, water is worth more than gold or oil when you don't have it. Like in times of drought.

Ranching is a way of life in Texas. Some areas the animal unit per acre could be 1 to 100 acres, in others 1 in 5. It all depends on the amount of water. More water, more grass. That simple. In some areas, the ranchers use smudge pots to burn prickly pears off the cactus so the livestock can eat the cactus for water during times of drought.

How do you like your steak? With a little methane or oil contamination!
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Most of central and eastern Texas's water comes from underground aquafers or rivers that start in west Texas and travel 600-800 miles underground. We were the 3rd ranch from where the Frio river surfaces in Leaky Texas. All our water came straight from the river via pump straight to the house. It is that way in almost all rual areas. Whether from well, spring, river, lake or artesian well that's our water. We don't have snow caps or huge rivers coming in from out of state bring in the water. If the water goes, so does everything else. Will the oil companies supply all the water in the future if they contaminate the subsurface water? In Texas, water is worth more than gold or oil when you don't have it. Like in times of drought.

Ranching is a way of life in Texas. Some areas the animal unit per acre could be 1 to 100 acres, in others 1 in 5. It all depends on the amount of water. More water, more grass. That simple. In some areas, the ranchers use smudge pots to burn prickly pears off the cactus so the livestock can eat the cactus for water during times of drought.

How do you like your steak? With a little methane or oil contamination!

There is PLENTY of oil available without getting into the oil shales yet. Open up the Gulf again. There is so much oil there that it "leaks" the equivalent of 2 Exxon Valdeze spill EACH YEAR into the Gulf.

Again, start making our diesel out of coal. It comes in about $60 per barrel.

Oil shales are a rich source of energy, we may need them someday. Right now there are other things available.

As far as water goes, we need to clean up ALL sources of pollution. Like too much phosphorus in detergents. Too many pesticides/herbicides used on golf courses and lawns. Non-point pollutions contributes as much or more crud into our water as big industry does.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Most of central and eastern Texas's water comes from underground aquafers or rivers that start in west Texas and travel 600-800 miles underground. We were the 3rd ranch from where the Frio river surfaces in Leaky Texas. All our water came straight from the river via pump straight to the house. It is that way in almost all rual areas. Whether from well, spring, river, lake or artesian well that's our water. We don't have snow caps or huge rivers coming in from out of state bring in the water. If the water goes, so does everything else. Will the oil companies supply all the water in the future if they contaminate the subsurface water? In Texas, water is worth more than gold or oil when you don't have it. Like in times of drought.

Ranching is a way of life in Texas. Some areas the animal unit per acre could be 1 to 100 acres, in others 1 in 5. It all depends on the amount of water. More water, more grass. That simple. In some areas, the ranchers use smudge pots to burn prickly pears off the cactus so the livestock can eat the cactus for water during times of drought.

How do you like your steak? With a little methane or oil contamination!

There is PLENTY of oil available without getting into the oil shales yet. Open up the Gulf again. There is so much oil there that it "leaks" the equivalent of 2 Exxon Valdeze spill EACH YEAR into the Gulf.

Again, start making our diesel out of coal. It comes in about $60 per barrel.

Oil shales are a rich source of energy, we may need them someday. Right now there are other things available.

As far as water goes, we need to clean up ALL sources of pollution. Like too much phosphorus in detergents. Too many pesticides/herbicides used on golf courses and lawns. Non-point pollutions contributes as much or more crud into our water as big industry does.
 

golfournut

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I'm all for opening up the Gulf and Alaska. Also off the east coast of Florida. That soft rock stuff is way to unstable.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I'm all for opening up the Gulf and Alaska. Also off the east coast of Florida. That soft rock stuff is way to unstable.

Unneeded right now. Should be left like an "ace in the hole" so to speak. There is also a lot of oil all over the country without messing with water at all.
 

golfournut

Veteran Expediter
Sorry, don't buy it.

Like the "global flooding" that is going to happen. Just how high are water levels going to rise if all the worlds sea ice melts?

They have been 'fraking' in PA for over 100 years.

If they have been "flaking" in PA for over 100 years, why haven't they been pumping natural gas from supposedly one of the worlds largest supplies. Under the city of Pittsburgh!
 

Turtle

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I think we should just go back to pig fat and be done with it.
 
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