How Ron Paul's Minions Plan to Hijack the GOP Convention

[RLENT]

Oh the sheer horror of it !

If you want a real hoot, be sure to go to the article on the DB and read the comments :

Ron Paul is orchestrating a highly unusual, yet precisely organized, grassroots effort to bring as many loyal delegates as possible to the Republican National Convention. Romney's campaign has some mass appeal but invites little passion. Paul's might have even fewer supporters than Romney but their energetic zeal could culminate in having an outsize influence at the RNC without having won a single primary.



Each state selects its delegates to the Republican National Convention differently, and as has often been reported, the process of a candidate “winning a state” is not as simple as a plurality on primary day. An obscure process of country, district, and state conventions exists to appoint these delegates to the national convention. A candidate who can successfully manipulate these lesser known “behind-the-scenes” processes can put himself in an advantageous position should the Convention begin in August with some doubt about the identity of the nominee.

Focusing on one Super Tuesday state, Georgia, this process began with “mass precinct meetings” on February 18th to select delegates to the county conventions. After the March 6 primary, Georgia's 159 county conventions take place March 10. These will elect delegates to the district conventions scheduled for April 14. While some at-large delegates emerge from the state convention, most are selected at Georgia’s thirteen district conventions. Ideally, the Paul campaign would like for its supporters to compose 51% of the attendees at each district convention so that its supporters can make motions, control the proceedings, and make sure its supporters get nominated as delegates to the national convention.

The Paul campaign has rigorously organized its volunteers to attend the mass precinct meetings that took place all over Georgia. It has been instructing supporters on parliamentary procedure and state Republican rules. It is also giving advice on convention etiquette. In an e-mail to supporters, Charles Gregory, Georgia State Coordinator for Ron Paul 2012, wrote:

“It is my personal recommendation that you dress professionally and not overtly identify yourself as a Ron Paul supporter. Your position should simply be: “I'm here to send Obama home, that's all I care about.” If asked who you support—just say you ‘haven't made up your mind yet but they're all better than what we've got now,’ etc."


I myself attended a similar precinct meeting in 2008. Most of the speeches were about uniting the Party around the eventual nominee and there was relatively little conflict, and I easily got my name on the slate of delegates to the county, district, and state conventions.
The most recent meetings held in Georgia have not been like this at all.

A Paul supporter in my hometown of Warner Robins, GA described how the strategy played out at Houston County's mass precinct meeting last Saturday. (Video of the meeting is available here.) The story he tells, and one I’ve corroborated with other witnesses, is one of chaos. The GOP county leadership is aware of the strength of the Paul wave, but handcuffed by state party rules designed to bolster the party by allowing large numbers of people to get involved.

These meetings have not always been well attended, so it becomes common practice for names to be added to delegate lists, even if those people are not present at the meeting. The low attendance coupled with the openness to adding random names to delegate lists leaves them vulnerable to insurgencies like Paul's. Knowing this, the Paul campaign had distributed lists of local supporters’ names to attendees. It instructed supporters to fill in the vacant slots with loyal names.
My friend described the disruption that followed:


Near the end of the caucusing it became known that names were being nominated as delegates who were not present at the meeting. This practice was encouraged by the Ron Paul campaign which has made it clear that they are running a delegate strategy. When the chairperson caught word of this, confusion ensued. He instructed everyone that this was not permissible under the rules and the crowd shouted back. However this is acceptable and the Ron Paul campaign had even directed its delegates to the state rulebook for proof.
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Members of the county leadership, especially those with “Newt Gingrich 2012” stickers, did not have a pleasant and supportive attitude during this process. It also became clear to me at this point that the people who knew the rules were Ron Paul supporters. There were dozens of people, mainly young and middle aged, who reacted to this controversy exactly as the Ron Paul delegates were trained to do.
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I have seen a few comments about this event afterwards, and one specifically complained that the Ron Paul backers attempted to hijack the event and they caused all the problems. From what I saw the Ron Paul supporters were very close to a majority if they did not have one outright at the meeting. It is my understanding that this event was the other way around, the county GOP leadership attempted to hijack the meeting away from the majority.


Members of the GOP may try and find other ways to block Paul's supporters, but their options are limited when the Paul campaign uses each state's Republican Party rules against it. The evidence suggests that events like this one in central Georgia are playing out all across the nation. Only time will tell how effective this is, but it is clear that the Paul campaign is desperate to create a major splash at Tampa this summer any way it can.

Daily Beast: How Ron Paul's Minions Plan to Hijack the GOP Convention

 

[layoutshooter]

Heaven forbid! People choosing to partake in the political process! OH MY! In reality, while it will likely have little outcome on this election Obama should be VERY worried about this. As more people choose to participate the greater the threat to his take over is. It is unfortunate that we are likely too far down the road for the political process to work out the rulers.

 

[RLENT]

Heaven forbid! People choosing to partake in the political process! OH MY!

Exactly

In reality, while it will likely have little outcome on this election Obama should be VERY worried about this.

Oh he is - guaranteed.

As Turtle observed some time back, a number of Obama's recent moves were likely to counter the potential threat from a Paul candidacy.

As more people choose to participate the greater the threat to his take over is. It is unfortunate that we are likely too far down the road for the political process to work out the rulers.

Could be ... we'll see how asleep the American people are come November.

BTW, you see the thing with Holder on targeted assassinations ?

Now we got FBI Director Mueller chiming in to .......

These dudes are terrified of us ..... and, given what they have been up to, they should be ....

 

[layoutshooter]

Exactly


Oh he is - guaranteed.

As Turtle observed some time back, a number of Obama's recent moves were likely to counter the potential threat from a Paul candidacy.


Could be ... we'll see how asleep the American people are come November.

BTW, you see the thing with Holder on targeted assassinations ?

Now we got FBI Director Mueller chiming in to .......



These dudes are terrified of us ..... and, given what they have been up to, they should be ....

Yeah, I saw it. It is only the tip of the iceberg.

There have been 'peaceful' purges going on in the military for a while now. The typical non-peaceful purges will start after Obama is reappointed King.

Just as in the period leading up to 1860 the military is choosing sides. Obama will do all he can to purge those who will not pledge to serve him and stick to protecting the Constitution.

Things are happening fast now.

 

[chefdennis]

I hope he really does get a crap load of Delegates to the convention, i really do...but their seems to be an issue that even this handlers are admitting..while Dr Paul is gathering large crowds to his rallys in the "caucas states"..less then half and in some cases only a quarter of the # are showing up to vote.....the youth demo that he is hitting so well and bring to the rallys, just aren't voting...thats why we are seeing him lose in states that he figured to either win or finish a strong 2nd.....

He is going to have big impact on the platform at the convention and yes barry is not looking like the "shoes in" alot think he is and alot of that is because of what Paul is bring to the table even if he isnt the one to run against him....I just wish the people that show at the rallys would show up and vote..

 

[greg334]

Many will vote with crowds, like whats happening with Romney. Many who are more independent and more likely not to vote like they are being told are the threat to the party and the notion that the party stands for something other than liberal ideologies.

It is too bad, and somewhat sad when you think about it - not one of the candidates that are part of that comedy team the three stooges has enough real backing to actually come close to beating the sitting president let alone going to effect any real changes if they get into office. For once in our country's history, we lack any real choices other than an old man who speaks what people feel - small government, real change to a system that is broken and a way forward, not backward.

Unless the economy tanks, I don't mean with higher gas prices either, Obama should be having an inaugural come January 2013.

 

[layoutshooter]

Many will vote with crowds, like whats happening with Romney. Many who are more independent and more likely not to vote like they are being told are the threat to the party and the notion that the party stands for something other than liberal ideologies.

It is too bad, and somewhat sad when you think about it - not one of the candidates that are part of that comedy team the three stooges has enough real backing to actually come close to beating the sitting president let alone going to effect any real changes if they get into office. For once in our country's history, we lack any real choices other than an old man who speaks what people feel - small government, real change to a system that is broken and a way forward, not backward.

Unless the economy tanks, I don't mean with higher gas prices either, Obama should be having an inaugural come January 2013.

For once? When in our life time have we had any 'real choice'. None that I know of since I reached voting age. We have not had a really honest, trustworthy, quality candidate since the last ice age ended.

 

[greg334]

For once? When in our life time have we had any 'real choice'. None that I know of since I reached voting age. We have not had a really honest, trustworthy, quality candidate since the last ice age ended.

We've had a lot of choices on your life time, Taft was a good one, so was Harding and Hoover.

 

[layoutshooter]

We've had a lot of choices on your life time, Taft was a good one, so was Harding and Hoover.

VERY funny! OK, OK, in your lifetime then junior.

 

[greg334]

Yes we have Ron Paul as a good choice. We had Marco Rubio but he seems to have taken the GOP pill and acting like a true blue conservative and no longer a person who sees what we need. There are others but remember Layout, the people we need are those who speak of things like Paul does - gutted government, a real reduction in spending and getting out of other people's crap. We won't have that until we shed these harmful attitudes that everyone has.

 

[layoutshooter]

Yes we have Ron Paul as a good choice. We had Marco Rubio but he seems to have taken the GOP pill and acting like a true blue conservative and no longer a person who sees what we need. There are others but remember Layout, the people we need are those who speak of things like Paul does - gutted government, a real reduction in spending and getting out of other people's crap. We won't have that until we shed these harmful attitudes that everyone has.

Yep, well, you find one that has the fire in his gut and the organization to win and a speech writer that can write. Ain't seen him/her/it yet.

 

[greg334]

Well there are a lot of them but see until you (not you but in a general sense) rid the idea that who the parties select are right for the country, then we will never see or hear them.

Here is one of the problems I am seeing with people who back one of the three stooges, they don't get that every one of the stooges is saying the same thing as the other - no difference in ideas or rhetoric. AND because they keep fighting among themselves, Obama gains more and more in the area of marginal voters. One reason why it has been said in the past the party needs to forsake the primary process and back one guy. When election time comes around, we will collectively not care what the republican candidate is saying because we already been overwhelmed with their rhetoric to the point that they don't matter.

 

[layoutshooter]

Well there are a lot of them but see until you (not you but in a general sense) rid the idea that who the parties select are right for the country, then we will never see or hear them.

Here is one of the problems I am seeing with people who back one of the three stooges, they don't get that every one of the stooges is saying the same thing as the other - no difference in ideas or rhetoric. AND because they keep fighting among themselves, Obama gains more and more in the area of marginal voters. One reason why it has been said in the past the party needs to forsake the primary process and back one guy. When election time comes around, we will collectively not care what the republican candidate is saying because we already been overwhelmed with their rhetoric to the point that they don't matter.

Obama is a stooge too, your math is off. Paul is not a stooge but is out of fire.

I don't see anyone out there, who is running. As to who I would like, don't matter. No one I would like is, or will, run. I would run but I am too old, too fat and too ugly. I got the fire, I could write the speeches, I could, and would, deliver them with passion. Old, fat, ugly dudes can't win.

 

[greg334]

Obama is a stooge too, your math is off.

True to a point. I don't think he is as a puppet as many make it out as. If this was the case, so was Bush and Bush I not to mention Carter and possibly Kennedy.

Paul is not a stooge but is out of fire.

I don't think he is out of fire, I think there is a shift in where people are going, it is the herd effect in action and I even seen it happen here in Michigan - one reason why we were bombarded with this is his Home State crap, it wasn't but people for some weird reason keep thinking that just because someone is from here, they care about here.

I don't see anyone out there, who is running.

Of course not because you haven't looked at all of those who are running. It may be someone who is not visiable at this moment. BUT don't forget we need someone who can't be like say a Romney or even a Palin (still contend that she needs to fix the party) but need someone who doesn't care about flipping or flopping to get votes and sticks to their opinions. You know if you ever read FDR's campaign stuff, you would see how effective of a candidate he was even stealing hoover's ideas and using them to run on. Obama is just like that but ... so are all the three stooges.

As to who I would like, don't matter. No one I would like is, or will, run. I would run but I am too old, too fat and too ugly. I got the fire, I could write the speeches, I could, and would, deliver them with passion. Old, fat, ugly dudes can't win.

So run, I may even vote for you.

 

[layoutshooter]

Nope, no one running. When I say that Paul has no fire, I mean in his gut. He never sat out to win. He did not believe he could, his campaign reflected that.

Nope, I won't run. The election is during hunting season. Beside I would pull no more that 5 votes. I don't say what the whiners, gemmie people and all other sorts of left wing bums want to hear.

I am MORE than willing to call a spade a shovel, the vast majority of the voter want to hear that.

 

[greg334]

Nope, no one running. When I say that Paul has no fire, I mean in his gut. He never sat out to win. He did not believe he could, his campaign reflected that.

Well here is the thing, I wonder if you would think of this a bit different or not.

What I mean is I don't think his intention was to "win" but more to do what others have done in the past, get others to come to the right side of the issue - the side of true liberty. If you know about Liberty and the history of it, you can see through the crap of what we hear all the time and understand what it means.

So if you think about history, being taught in the old system, there were many who spurred on change by not being the leader of some movement but by almost being a leader. If you need an example, I expect maybe Rlent can fill in the blanks for you.

 

[layoutshooter]

Well here is the thing, I wonder if you would think of this a bit different or not.

What I mean is I don't think his intention was to "win" but more to do what others have done in the past, get others to come to the right side of the issue - the side of true liberty. If you know about Liberty and the history of it, you can see through the crap of what we hear all the time and understand what it means.

So if you think about history, being taught in the old system, there were many who spurred on change by not being the leader of some movement but by almost being a leader. If you need an example, I expect maybe Rlent can fill in the blanks for you.

Well, here is the thing, this is the very last chance, for a free election in the United States of America. Once Obama is reelected, and he will be, there will be no more 'free' elections. The United States will become the United Soviet Socialist States of the North American District, of the Western Hemisphere of the World Soviet Socialist World State.

It's crunch time. Paul never ran. Rlent cannot fill in any blanks for me. Too different. OK guy, might get on the water sometime, too different beyond that.

 

[greg334]

Well, here is the thing, this is the very last chance, for a free election in the United States of America. Once Obama is reelected, and he will be, there will be no more 'free' elections. The United States will become the United Soviet Socialist States of the North American District, of the Western Hemisphere of the World Soviet Socialist World State.

Wow I feel I'm talking to someone who thinks Nixon is king in 1973.

Dude, we are soooo far from that, it ain't funny.

In order for Obama to even approach this, he has to trigger a civil war and then declare a suspension of the constitution.

It's crunch time. Paul never ran. Rlent cannot fill in any blanks for me. Too different. OK guy, might get on the water sometime, too different beyond that.

I think you misunderstand or don't want to.

Sorry I wasted my time.

 

[layoutshooter]

Wow I feel I'm talking to someone who thinks Nixon is king in 1973.

Dude, we are soooo far from that, it ain't funny.

In order for Obama to even approach this, he has to trigger a civil war and then declare a suspension of the constitution.



I think you misunderstand or don't want to.

Sorry I wasted my time.

Nope, you have it backwards. Obama will first suspend the Constitution, THEN, the civil war will start. He will do so with about 1 year left in his second term.

 

[greg334]

Nope, you have it backwards. Obama will first suspend the Constitution, THEN, the civil war will start. He will do so with about 1 year left in his second term.

He's not King unless you make him one and with the attitude that makes him one, I am guessing you want him to be one.