Honda 2000i generator fuel connection
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For now, I'll probably carry the generator in the van and just set it up on the bumper when needed (the CargoMax van has a HUGE step bumper), but I would like to have the fuel line available instead of having to deal with the extended run tank. I'm looking at how I want to carry the generator on the bumper...haven't decided on a direction there yet.
If you don't mind sitting the gen on the ground, it looks like it would be pretty easy to have a line available to hook up to the generator lid and just use the van fuel tank just like they use the extended run tanks. I just can't do the sit it on the ground thing though. I know ME! I would drive right off and drag the thing down the road until something turned loose!..lol. Actually... someone would either steal it or run over it if I did that.
This may be the best way to do it, but it's not exactly what I'm wanting to do. I would like to actually bypass the honda's existing fuel tank and just feed straight from the van tank to the fuel intake line of the generator.
Below is the concept I have in mind (thanks to Dennis). I just don't know the exact details of how he had it set up. The one thing I would question about doing it is whether or not that fuel pump would hold up to a consistent "lift" load. It's obviously built to pump gravity fed fuel to the fuel inlet.
Why would you want to bypass the existing tank????
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My thoughts are to keep everything as neat and low profile as possible. If I could bypass the existing tank and feed straight to the inlet, I could avoid having the lines poking up out of the cap. There has to be a fuel line running from the Honda's existing tank to the fuel inlet. I'm thinking just build your quick attach setup from there. It's not like I need this generator for any other purpose. It will be dedicated to the van. It would be a pretty easy conversion to put back anyway.
chefdennis
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Ok, 1st keep in mind that ALOT of the newgererators (not sure about the honda, but the honeywell is) are CARD compliant. What that does in make the fuel system a "closed loop" with a vent to a evaporator canister....bypassing the gravity tank on the generator would open the closed loop and probably flood the evaporator canister causing gas to run out on the ground...
I am thinking Asj seen the same guy i spent a few hours with figuring this out (brown and gold gmc cube van) and his final connection to the generatop was thru the cap if I remember like the article Turtle posted about....
With the fuel pump, I would "T" the fuel line from the factory tank just before the fuel pump..that would then lessen any added demand on the fuel pump and I,d bet keep the factory tank filled also....
Like i said, i am not sure about the honda other then they are darn good units, but i do know how to flood the evaporater canister on the Honeywell...been there done that...trial and error...
I am thinking Asj seen the same guy i spent a few hours with figuring this out (brown and gold gmc cube van) and his final connection to the generatop was thru the cap if I remember like the article Turtle posted about....
With the fuel pump, I would "T" the fuel line from the factory tank just before the fuel pump..that would then lessen any added demand on the fuel pump and I,d bet keep the factory tank filled also....
Like i said, i am not sure about the honda other then they are darn good units, but i do know how to flood the evaporater canister on the Honeywell...been there done that...trial and error...
Ok, 1st keep in mind that ALOT of the newgererators (not sure about the honda, but the honeywell is) are CARD compliant. What that does in make the fuel system a "closed loop" with a vent to a evaporator canister....bypassing the gravity tank on the generator would open the closed loop and probably flood the evaporator canister causing gas to run out on the ground...
I am thinking Asj seen the same guy i spent a few hours with figuring this out (brown and gold gmc cube van) and his final connection to the generatop was thru the cap if I remember like the article Turtle posted about....
With the fuel pump, I would "T" the fuel line from the factory tank just before the fuel pump..that would then lessen any added demand on the fuel pump and I,d bet keep the factory tank filled also....
Like i said, i am not sure about the honda other then they are darn good units, but i do know how to flood the evaporater canister on the Honeywell...been there done that...trial and error...
Wow... live and learn. I had NOT considered any of that! That's why It's good to have an open forum of discussion on this stuff. Ok...so maybe there was a fly in my ointment...it was just a small fly
I'll get it out...well maybe!
Never pass up an opportunity to complicate the simple.
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Also keep in mind a Honda Fuel pump is the size of a hockey puck...REAL small....not a lot of pumping power...Wow... live and learn. I had NOT considered any of that! That's why It's good to have an open forum of discussion on this stuff. Ok...so maybe there was a fly in my ointment...it was just a small fly
Ok, 1st keep in mind that ALOT of the newgererators (not sure about the honda, but the honeywell is) are CARD compliant. What that does in make the fuel system a "closed loop" with a vent to a evaporator canister....bypassing the gravity tank on the generator would open the closed loop and probably flood the evaporator canister causing gas to run out on the ground...
I am thinking Asj seen the same guy i spent a few hours with figuring this out (brown and gold gmc cube van) and his final connection to the generatop was thru the cap if I remember like the article Turtle posted about....
With the fuel pump, I would "T" the fuel line from the factory tank just before the fuel pump..that would then lessen any added demand on the fuel pump and I,d bet keep the factory tank filled also....
Like i said, i am not sure about the honda other then they are darn good units, but i do know how to flood the evaporater canister on the Honeywell...been there done that...trial and error...
Yup.....same guy....pretty kewl setup..
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So...both of you talked to this guy and looked at his set up and we don't have a single picture..not even a list of parts needed?
I'm thinking it's gotta be pretty simple. I haven't even bought the generator yet. I would like to have a decent idea of what I want to do before I purchase anything. It's sounding like this will be doable in some fashion, so I'll probably go ahead and get one. I like this setup the best.
I mentioned that in earler post. I didn't know, but suspected it's not built to do alot of work.
So...both of you talked to this guy and looked at his set up and we don't have a single picture..not even a list of parts needed?
I'm thinking it's gotta be pretty simple. I haven't even bought the generator yet. I would like to have a decent idea of what I want to do before I purchase anything. It's sounding like this will be doable in some fashion, so I'll probably go ahead and get one. I like this setup the best.
I.am.required to take pictures of everything I see....personally I dont have no use. For his idea.....so no need for me to take pics....he told me he drilled a hole in the top of his trunks tank inserted a 1/2" metal fuel line till it almost reached the bottom ...the sealed it in ....the connected a rubber fuel line to that ....ran to the rear of the truck....I don't recall what adapter if any he had to connect it to the gen....pretty easy....
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chefdennis
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OK OVM just cleared that up, the honda does have a fuel pump..and yes the honeywell pump is also small..that is why you would use a "Blub' type primer pump in the line before the connection to the generator and whay you wouldn't want to not use the main fuel tank...really all you are doing when using the extended run tank is keeping the main tank full....the "T" in the line before the pump acts to keep fuel at that point and also to keep the main tank from running empty...
I doubt the fuel pump would last every long strictly pumping from the gas tank on the van...but then once the line was primes and the pump recreated enough suction to run the generator, it should be ok...but then again when the generator "surges"..it could also speed up the pump and allows it to "break" the prime on the line and if the main tank is bypassed the gen stalls...personally I wouldn't take take the factory tank out of the line..i'd just add to it...
LOL, but if you do it like the pics that Turtle posted, you aren't messing with the fuel pump...you would just need to prime the line (because of the long run of fuel line) to get the siphon draw started and it would fill that way....but then again you have to be concerned with "filling the evaporator canister" if the unit is CARB compliant"....the only way around that would be to recreat a closed loop back into the gen tank and by pass the evaporator canister completely....
Hey...trial and error....I know how i have mine works , i know how the guy in the cube has his works, now its just a matter of combining them both to make it work....
I doubt the fuel pump would last every long strictly pumping from the gas tank on the van...but then once the line was primes and the pump recreated enough suction to run the generator, it should be ok...but then again when the generator "surges"..it could also speed up the pump and allows it to "break" the prime on the line and if the main tank is bypassed the gen stalls...personally I wouldn't take take the factory tank out of the line..i'd just add to it...
LOL, but if you do it like the pics that Turtle posted, you aren't messing with the fuel pump...you would just need to prime the line (because of the long run of fuel line) to get the siphon draw started and it would fill that way....but then again you have to be concerned with "filling the evaporator canister" if the unit is CARB compliant"....the only way around that would be to recreat a closed loop back into the gen tank and by pass the evaporator canister completely....
Hey...trial and error....I know how i have mine works , i know how the guy in the cube has his works, now its just a matter of combining them both to make it work....
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Fuel consumption @ 50% is in line with the Honda...Just pricey..BUT if it powers a roof top it is cheaper then the 3000w Honda...
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The whole site isn't too bad..
a bit smaller...
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Fuel consumption @ 50% is in line with the Honda...Just pricey..BUT if it powers a roof top it is cheaper then the 3000w Honda...
Yamaha EF2400ISHC Portable Generator - EF2400iSHC - 2000 Watt Inverter Generator
The whole site isn't too bad..
a bit smaller...
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Yamaha-EF2000IS-Portable-Generator/p2785.html
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chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
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