Here Come The Disclaimers!!!

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
August 14, 2007
ExxonMobil stickers a disclaimer about fuel temperature, energy
content
A disclaimer warning consumers that temperature fluctuations affect the amount of energy contained in a
gallon of motor fuel has turned up on select fuel pumps in California.
Fuel stations owned by ExxonMobil Corp. have begun posting
stickers on their pumps that some people believe show the company is admitting what it knows about “hot
fuel.â€
The decals state: “This device dispenses motor fuel by volume measured in gallons. It does not adjust the
volume for variations in the temperature of the fuel. The temperature of motor fuel affects the energy content
of each gallon dispensed.â€
“Hot fuel†is retail gasoline or diesel sold at temperatures higher than the 60-degree standard used by fuel
companies at the wholesale level and any transactions above the rack. Hot fuel contains less energy by
volume than fuel sold at or below 60 degrees.
The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, a non-profit watchdog agency, sent digital images of the
decals to Land Line.
Judy Dugan, president of the taxpayer foundation, said the stickers are a way for oil companies such as
ExxonMobil Corp. to fend off consumer lawsuits relating to hot fuel.
“Hot fuel is a fundamental dishonesty in the way gasoline is sold, which all drivers should protest,†Dugan
told Land Line. “But for truckers, it’s a real economic threat. ExxonMobil’s nearly invisible stickers are an
insult, not a remedy. They’re the equivalent of a grocer telling you he has his thumb on the scale and there’s
not a thing you can do about it.â€
ExxonMobil Corp. officials have not returned repeated calls from Land Line in regard to the topic of hot fuel
in general or the stickers specifically.
ExxonMobil Corp., the most profitable oil company in the world not controlled by a political state, was not
the first fuel company to issue a disclaimer about temperature.
Tesoro Corp. of San Antonio posted similar disclaimers July 2 on its company-owned fuel pumps in
California, according to the industry publication Oil Express.
A spokeswoman from Tesoro told Land Line that although the company chose to issue the disclaimer, the
company does not buy into the allegations surrounding hot fuel.
Consumer groups involved in a number of lawsuits against retailers and oil companies want the companies to
install automatic temperature-compensation devices on all retail pumps. So far, there are no state or federal
laws or regulations requiring temperature compensation at retail.
The National Conference on Weights and Measures came close to approving model legislation for states to
use to implement temperature compensation, but officials supporting the move did not have enough votes at
the annual conference in July.
U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-OH, chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government
Reform’s Subcommittee on Domestic Policy, has chaired two hearings about hot fuel, claiming fuel sold
above 60 degrees will cost consumers an extra $1.5 billion this summer alone.
Kucinich questioned oil executives from ExxonMobil and Shell Oil Co. at a hearing July 25. The executives
said they don’t believe temperature fluctuations cost consumers much at all – that summer and winter cancel
each other out.
That long-time argument by fuel retailers has been refuted by statistics published by the National Institute for
Standards and Technology showing the average fuel temperature in the United States was slightly higher than
66 degrees in 2005.
Owner-operator Darcy Currier of Youngstown, OH, while taking a pulp-gauge reading of diesel fuel Aug. 5
at a TravelCenters of America plaza in Kingman, AZ, measured the fuel temperature at 120 degrees – double
the so-called national standard of 60 degrees.
The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association and its research foundation, based in Grain Valley,
MO, continue to investigate fuel temperatures, having been among the first to do so.
On Aug. 8, an OOIDA staff member traveled to the nearby Oak Grove Truck Stop in Oak Grove, MO. The
fuel clerk produced a store receipt showing the in-ground fuel temperature for diesel fuel was 75.8 degrees.
The reason for the concern over hot fuel, OOIDA officials say, is because consumers believe they are getting
the fuel energy promised in a standard gallon when they buy fuel, and anything less than that is not a true
gallon. In other words, a driver cannot travel as far on expanded fuel as he/she can on fuel purchased at 60
degrees.
Visit turndownhotfuel.com for more details.
– By David Tanner, staff writer
[email protected]
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Maybe it is me, but after being slightly ill yesterday, I just can’t read this at all this morning in the form it was in, so I edited for effect.

Dieseldiva, I hope you don’t mind, take it and use it in your post and someone can delete mine. [/b]

August 14, 2007
ExxonMobil stickers a disclaimer about fuel temperature, energy
content a disclaimer warning consumers that temperature fluctuations affect the amount of energy contained in a gallon of motor fuel has turned up on select fuel pumps in California.

Fuel stations owned by ExxonMobil Corp. have begun posting
stickers on their pumps that some people believe show the company is admitting what it knows about “hot fuel.â€

The decals state: “This device dispenses motor fuel by volume measured in gallons. It does not adjust the volume for variations in the temperature of the fuel. The temperature of motor fuel affects the energy content of each gallon dispensed.â€

“Hot fuel†is retail gasoline or diesel sold at temperatures higher than the 60-degree standard used by fuel companies at the wholesale level and any transactions above the rack. Hot fuel contains less energy by volume than fuel sold at or below 60 degrees.

The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, a non-profit watchdog agency, sent digital images of the decals to Land Line.

Judy Dugan, president of the taxpayer foundation, said the stickers are a way for oil companies such as ExxonMobil Corp. to fend off consumer lawsuits relating to hot fuel. “Hot fuel is a fundamental dishonesty in the way gasoline is sold, which all drivers should protest,†Dugan told Land Line. “But for truckers, it’s a real economic threat.

ExxonMobil’s nearly invisible stickers are an insult, not a remedy. They’re the equivalent of a grocer telling you he has his thumb on the scale and there’s not a thing you can do about it.†ExxonMobil Corp. officials have not returned repeated calls from Land Line in regard to the topic of hot fuel in general or the stickers specifically.

ExxonMobil Corp., the most profitable oil company in the world not controlled by a political state, was not the first fuel company to issue a disclaimer about temperature.

Tesoro Corp. of San Antonio posted similar disclaimers July 2 on its company-owned fuel pumps in California, according to the industry publication Oil Express.

A spokeswoman from Tesoro told Land Line that although the company chose to issue the disclaimer, the company does not buy into the allegations surrounding hot fuel.

Consumer groups involved in a number of lawsuits against retailers and oil companies want the companies to install automatic temperature-compensation devices on all retail pumps. So far, there are no state or federal laws or regulations requiring temperature compensation at retail.

The National Conference on Weights and Measures came close to approving model legislation for states to use to implement temperature compensation, but officials supporting the move did not have enough votes at the annual conference in July.

U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-OH, chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform’s Subcommittee on Domestic Policy, has chaired two hearings about hot fuel, claiming fuel sold above 60 degrees will cost consumers an extra $1.5 billion this summer alone.

Kucinich questioned oil executives from ExxonMobil and Shell Oil Co. at a hearing July 25. The executives said they don’t believe temperature fluctuations cost consumers much at all – that summer and winter cancel each other out.

That long-time argument by fuel retailers has been refuted by statistics published by the National Institute for Standards and Technology showing the average fuel temperature in the United States was slightly higher than 66 degrees in 2005.

Owner-operator Darcy Currier of Youngstown, OH, while taking a pulp-gauge reading of diesel fuel Aug. 5 at a TravelCenters of America plaza in Kingman, AZ, measured the fuel temperature at 120 degrees – double the so-called national standard of 60 degrees.

The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association and its research foundation, based in Grain Valley, MO, continue to investigate fuel temperatures, having been among the first to do so.

On Aug. 8, an OOIDA staff member traveled to the nearby Oak Grove Truck Stop in Oak Grove, MO. The fuel clerk produced a store receipt showing the in-ground fuel temperature for diesel fuel was 75.8 degrees.

The reason for the concern over hot fuel, OOIDA officials say, is because consumers believe they are getting the fuel energy promised in a standard gallon when they buy fuel, and anything less than that is not a true gallon. In other words, a driver cannot travel as far on expanded fuel as he/she can on fuel purchased at 60 degrees.

Visit turndownhotfuel.com for more details.

– By David Tanner, staff writer
[email protected]
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
The solution is really pretty simple, don't purchase warm fuel. You've all been alerted to the fact, that some places "warm" their product. So, don't buy it. There will ALWAYS be someone waiting to bend you over in this world. Sooo, keep your eyes open, and face toward them.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
The solution is really pretty simple, don't purchase warm fuel. You've all been alerted to the fact, that some places "warm" their product. So, don't buy it. There will ALWAYS be someone waiting to bend you over in this world. Sooo, keep your eyes open, and face toward them.
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Not quite how I would have described it, but that is about what it comes down to in a primitive way.











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owner
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Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Do we know of any truckstop chains who have installed the regulators voluntarily? If not, then we can't just avoid those who don't. As far as using heaters on their tanks, that's fraud. But some still do it. How do we know who does it? And you know in the winter we'd never get 40 deg fuel. Weights and measures needs to mandate the regulators.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm starting to get in the habit of feeling the fitting that goes into the pump handle to see if it is cool to the touch. So far I haven't found one that felt warm. Maybe we should have a thread in Truck Talk where we could list stops that have warm fuel.

Btw, I buy the majority of my fuel from the J.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
See, we "want" someone "else" to take care of us, then complain about "regulations" and the higher prices the regulations cause.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Greg, thanks for the rewrite, I copied and pasted from Landline and didn't give a second thought to how it looked.

Col, I don't see what is so simple if we're unaware of who's selling "hot fuel". I agree we should try to make some kind of list and help each other out........come on guys, I want you to do my work FOR me!!

:* (sorry, couldn't resist)
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
A list will only be effective to a point. I read somewhere that many of these stations were doing this selectively. So one might go and experience no problem, and the guy that fills the next day gets screwed.
It sounds like checking the temp at the pump handle is the best bet.
If it is hot, don't buy.








Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Col... if you haven't read the OOIDA article on hot fuel, I suggest you do. The companies whining about fitting the pumps have already made a ton of TAX FREE money off the hot fuel already sold. Any hike in prices from the refit would be nothing but another unsubstantiated excuse.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
>A list will only be effective to a point. I read somewhere
>that many of these stations were doing this selectively. So
>one might go and experience no problem, and the guy that
>fills the next day gets screwed.
>It sounds like checking the temp at the pump handle is the
>best bet.
>If it is hot, don't buy.
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>Davekc
>owner
>23 years
>PantherII
>EO moderator


Dave, can you recall where you read this and that the hot fuel was intentional in some stations? I'd be interested in reading that. Thanks.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Diva, Hawk: Take ownership, don't pass your difficulties to "they".
It is in fact, really pretty simple. And on top of that easy.

I guess i've learned about this a long time ago, sooo, if you feel you've been taken by a slickie, well, what can I say. Yooknow what I mean.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I believe it was OOIDA or something to do with legislation in MO. I read it roughly a month ago. Might have been fleet mag as well.

Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
KY, too funny. That reminds me of something, and I'm going to thoroughly embarrass myself by repeating it here.

You all may know the place, I dunno, but a couple of three years ago I was at the Ft Wayne truck stop, and across the street from the truck entrance was (maybe still is) an adult establishment of sorts. Or, at the very least, there was a sign for them there. It was advertising something special on Friday nights, something called "KY Wrestling". It caught my eye.

I had been parked in the little expedite van corral they have set up, and noticed the sign as I left. For hours as I drove, I could not for the life of me figure out (a) what the heck Kentucky Wresting even was, nor (b) what was so special about it that it would be popular enough to advertise a special night for it at any place, much less an adult entertainment establishment. I mean, I'm from Kentucky and I've never even heard of Kentucky Wresting, and they have it in Ft Wayne?!?!

I think it was days later when it finally dawned on me that KY Wresting wasn't simply some wild, different or unique style of wresting born in the Bluegrass.

Apparently, I need to get out more.

Hey, at least I don't put Kentucky Jelly on Melba Toast. I'm not stoopid, ya know.


Slow and steady, even in expediting, wins the race - Aesop
 

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
When you wrote KY wrestling, I thought the same thing. Kentucky and kept reading on. TO FUNNY, by the way I am awake now!

6:30 AM
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Unless you are buying fuel year round in southern tier states I'm sure things even out. This week I have been buying fuel in Missouri and Tennessee where temperatures are hitting 100 degrees. Am I getting a little less bang for my buck? Probably! But wait until this winter when I am buying fuel in Minnesota and it is -30 degrees. Those nasty oil companies will be taking it in the shorts. I'm going to mount a couple of 150 gallon tanks on a trailer and haul it behind my van. Think of the money I will be saving.

Most fuel is stored in underground tanks. So unless it comes fresh off the transport, it should cool a little bit. I really believe this to be a non-issue issue. If you want to pay more for fuel, get the government involved in this. In the end we will pay for retro fitting pumps.
 
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