Why would what I said infuriate you?? I just said I don't think the US of A is the savior of the world.
I always play nice....
I always play nice....
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dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
No, I do not believe that America is the savior of the world, but I do believe that it is the greatest nation on this planet.
Many nations sent troops to defeat Nazi Germany and I appreciate their sacrifice.
Unfortunately, many of those same nations have now drifted toward a despotic and oppressive system of government.
When a nation throws pastors in jail for preaching the truth, I have a problem with that nation collectively, not the individuals. And if America follows the same path, as these other countries seem to be, I would hope someone would bring to our attention as well; before it is too late!
The monetary exchange means nothing to me; it is the exchange, or replacement, of ethical, moral and intrinsic freedoms that chaps me personally.
When I travel in those nations that violate basic freedoms, I try not to add one penny to their economy.
Many nations sent troops to defeat Nazi Germany and I appreciate their sacrifice.
Unfortunately, many of those same nations have now drifted toward a despotic and oppressive system of government.
When a nation throws pastors in jail for preaching the truth, I have a problem with that nation collectively, not the individuals. And if America follows the same path, as these other countries seem to be, I would hope someone would bring to our attention as well; before it is too late!
The monetary exchange means nothing to me; it is the exchange, or replacement, of ethical, moral and intrinsic freedoms that chaps me personally.
When I travel in those nations that violate basic freedoms, I try not to add one penny to their economy.
Ok...It's one of the greatest countries on the planet...
Thats as far as I am willing to admit....I may now be a resident of here but I'll always be a Canadian.
Thats as far as I am willing to admit....I may now be a resident of here but I'll always be a Canadian.
dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
It is the greatest and most powerful nation on this planet.
We required no assistance to bring down "The Wall."
America flexed its economic muscle and we buried The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics by attrition. Yep! We simply out spent them in the arms race.
My father was a member of the Strategic Air Command. He used to joke about not dropping bombs on the Russians, but Levis and TV sets instead. His philosophy was that when folks really see how Americans live, they will want what we have and force their governments to give it to them.
What brought you to America?
Could it have been our poverty, lack of freedom or poor infrastructure?
We required no assistance to bring down "The Wall."
America flexed its economic muscle and we buried The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics by attrition. Yep! We simply out spent them in the arms race.
My father was a member of the Strategic Air Command. He used to joke about not dropping bombs on the Russians, but Levis and TV sets instead. His philosophy was that when folks really see how Americans live, they will want what we have and force their governments to give it to them.
What brought you to America?
Could it have been our poverty, lack of freedom or poor infrastructure?
What brought me to America?
I wanted to see how the OTHER greatest country lived.
Lets not get into a pissin contest David...You do we do have a great country.
What brought me to America? The truth? A promise I made to my wife...She moved to Canada for 8 years until my kids got older and then we moved here....The cultures, the people, the believe in a better life is the same in both lands. Freedom reigns my friend.
I wanted to see how the OTHER greatest country lived.
Lets not get into a pissin contest David...You do we do have a great country.
What brought me to America? The truth? A promise I made to my wife...She moved to Canada for 8 years until my kids got older and then we moved here....The cultures, the people, the believe in a better life is the same in both lands. Freedom reigns my friend.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
OVM, David
THE UNITED STATES IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD
No other country has ever and still comes to the rescue of other countries and people like the US.
You have no idea what goes out of this country to feed, cloth and shelter people around the world. It is utterly amazing that the UN only provides a small part of the world help while we foot the bill for the rest and no one thanks us. I have seen more relief from the US than I have ever seen from other countries, especially the EU countries – they give nothing in comparison.
It is also amazing how the citizens of the US reach out and help, just the Tsunami how many billions of dollars we gave to help people, how our military was moved to assist the relief efforts and how we made it a priority for all to pitch in and do something. I didn’t see this from everyone else until we moved.
Did you know that all the major medical companies in the US provide medical supplies to most of the relief efforts for free? Some of the companies in South Africa, France and Switzerland all charge for their supplies, supplies I might add are either out of date or used. Why is it that we are criticized for our effort to better some people’s lives and allow our companies to benefit from our good deeds?
We stepped in and saved Europe not once but twice and did it without bringing our country to its knees. In WW2, the hardships we went through were already waning by 1944 and one GI who was on leave in late ’44 was amazed that in many places the war was something so distant and removed that is was like the country was not fighting the war at all.
We stepped up to the plate when there a need, before the UN and it’s need to govern ever thing in sight, we supplied relief to many nations, including Belgium, Russia, the Ukraine, Egypt and other countries during and after WW1. We had Hoover over in Europe negotiating with the Germans to help the Belgium who were starving. We sold Russia Wheat and other food when they were starving.
When Europe was devastated because of their stupidity and the French, what was the only, I MEAN THE ONLY country that rebuilt Europe? THE US! We not only supplied money, but equipment, food, building material but also men, lots of people went there to help with the DPs, rebuild the French, Belgium, German and Italian farms. AND the amazing thing is we did it without impacting our standard of living, which is truly amazing.
Sure we have made mistakes, many of them but d*mn what would you have us do, nothing?
In the bigger picture, yes we are the savior of the world.
THE UNITED STATES IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD
No other country has ever and still comes to the rescue of other countries and people like the US.
You have no idea what goes out of this country to feed, cloth and shelter people around the world. It is utterly amazing that the UN only provides a small part of the world help while we foot the bill for the rest and no one thanks us. I have seen more relief from the US than I have ever seen from other countries, especially the EU countries – they give nothing in comparison.
It is also amazing how the citizens of the US reach out and help, just the Tsunami how many billions of dollars we gave to help people, how our military was moved to assist the relief efforts and how we made it a priority for all to pitch in and do something. I didn’t see this from everyone else until we moved.
Did you know that all the major medical companies in the US provide medical supplies to most of the relief efforts for free? Some of the companies in South Africa, France and Switzerland all charge for their supplies, supplies I might add are either out of date or used. Why is it that we are criticized for our effort to better some people’s lives and allow our companies to benefit from our good deeds?
We stepped in and saved Europe not once but twice and did it without bringing our country to its knees. In WW2, the hardships we went through were already waning by 1944 and one GI who was on leave in late ’44 was amazed that in many places the war was something so distant and removed that is was like the country was not fighting the war at all.
We stepped up to the plate when there a need, before the UN and it’s need to govern ever thing in sight, we supplied relief to many nations, including Belgium, Russia, the Ukraine, Egypt and other countries during and after WW1. We had Hoover over in Europe negotiating with the Germans to help the Belgium who were starving. We sold Russia Wheat and other food when they were starving.
When Europe was devastated because of their stupidity and the French, what was the only, I MEAN THE ONLY country that rebuilt Europe? THE US! We not only supplied money, but equipment, food, building material but also men, lots of people went there to help with the DPs, rebuild the French, Belgium, German and Italian farms. AND the amazing thing is we did it without impacting our standard of living, which is truly amazing.
Sure we have made mistakes, many of them but d*mn what would you have us do, nothing?
In the bigger picture, yes we are the savior of the world.
The world would have survived, people are resourceful all over, not just North America,but Thanks anyhow.
dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
There is no “urinating†match, as you so aptly stated, because I draw my conclusions based upon facts, not on emotions.
I agree that Canada has some great heritage. Unfortunately, that legacy is far removed from its present day mindset.
Obviously, you have every right to remain attached to your heritage. My ancestors were from Scotland, but I claim no allegiance to Great Britain. Why? First, I was born unto and reared by American parents. Second, I have no desire to express loyalty to any nation that allowed its culture, ethics, morals and values to become diluted by heathens. The Fall of the Roman Empire is a testament to those who assimilate the standards of those who come to live amongst them. Rome incorporated the culture of others by conquering; modern day nations by open and unchecked immigration.
OVM, you are correct in saying that I have contention with you personally.
I do have a problem with any nation that restricts religious freedom; hence, the following excerpt:
Christians warn that C-250 "is an illiberal and illegitimate use of the criminal law."
OTTAWA, September 16, 2003 – Christian groups have issued a list of nine objections to including the term sexual orientation in current hate crimes legislation. The list, faxed to Members of Parliament who are scheduled to vote on the legislation on September 17, points out that the bill's sponsor - homosexual activist MP Svend Robinson - has already demonstrated that he intends to use the legislation to restrict religious freedom.
Citing Robinson's conduct toward a member of the clergy, Tony Van Hee - a peaceful protestor on Parliament Hill, the group warns MP's that Bill C-250 is meant to criminalize and suppress opposition to homosexual conduct and lifestyles. Those who state publicly that homosexual acts are immoral will be liable to prosecution for inciting hatred, even if they also insist that the homosexually active persons must be treated with respect and compassion. "This," the League protested, "is an illiberal and illegitimate use of the criminal law."
The Christian Coalition recounts: "Mr. Robinson objected to a sign held by a peaceful protestor on Parliament Hill: "Homosexuality - objective disorder tending to deviant acts." When Mr. Robinson threatened to have the Sergeant-at-Arms remove it, the protestor did so himself. The sign was later replaced with one that read, "Sexual orientation. Defeat of reason. Protecting disorder." Mr. Robinson seized that sign and threw it over a wall when the protestor declined to remove it. It was later reported that the RCMP were investigating the legality of the signs."
PS. Greg, I agree 100% with America coming to the rescue of countless nations and individuals as you so correctly stated in your post. As a minister, I just can not go as far as saying any country is a savior. That position, and title, was filled over 2000 years ago.
I agree that Canada has some great heritage. Unfortunately, that legacy is far removed from its present day mindset.
Obviously, you have every right to remain attached to your heritage. My ancestors were from Scotland, but I claim no allegiance to Great Britain. Why? First, I was born unto and reared by American parents. Second, I have no desire to express loyalty to any nation that allowed its culture, ethics, morals and values to become diluted by heathens. The Fall of the Roman Empire is a testament to those who assimilate the standards of those who come to live amongst them. Rome incorporated the culture of others by conquering; modern day nations by open and unchecked immigration.
OVM, you are correct in saying that I have contention with you personally.
I do have a problem with any nation that restricts religious freedom; hence, the following excerpt:
Christians warn that C-250 "is an illiberal and illegitimate use of the criminal law."
OTTAWA, September 16, 2003 – Christian groups have issued a list of nine objections to including the term sexual orientation in current hate crimes legislation. The list, faxed to Members of Parliament who are scheduled to vote on the legislation on September 17, points out that the bill's sponsor - homosexual activist MP Svend Robinson - has already demonstrated that he intends to use the legislation to restrict religious freedom.
Citing Robinson's conduct toward a member of the clergy, Tony Van Hee - a peaceful protestor on Parliament Hill, the group warns MP's that Bill C-250 is meant to criminalize and suppress opposition to homosexual conduct and lifestyles. Those who state publicly that homosexual acts are immoral will be liable to prosecution for inciting hatred, even if they also insist that the homosexually active persons must be treated with respect and compassion. "This," the League protested, "is an illiberal and illegitimate use of the criminal law."
The Christian Coalition recounts: "Mr. Robinson objected to a sign held by a peaceful protestor on Parliament Hill: "Homosexuality - objective disorder tending to deviant acts." When Mr. Robinson threatened to have the Sergeant-at-Arms remove it, the protestor did so himself. The sign was later replaced with one that read, "Sexual orientation. Defeat of reason. Protecting disorder." Mr. Robinson seized that sign and threw it over a wall when the protestor declined to remove it. It was later reported that the RCMP were investigating the legality of the signs."
PS. Greg, I agree 100% with America coming to the rescue of countless nations and individuals as you so correctly stated in your post. As a minister, I just can not go as far as saying any country is a savior. That position, and title, was filled over 2000 years ago.
Jack_Berry
Moderator Emeritus
todays conversion
Live rates at 2007.07.15 23:58:33 UTC
1.00 USD = 1.04760 CAD
United States Dollars Canada Dollars
1 USD = 1.04760 CAD 1 CAD = 0.954563 USD
sunday july 8, 2007
CAD Canada Dollars 1.0495500000 0.9527892906 us dollar
thank you mr bush.
Jack Berry
Live rates at 2007.07.15 23:58:33 UTC
1.00 USD = 1.04760 CAD
United States Dollars Canada Dollars
1 USD = 1.04760 CAD 1 CAD = 0.954563 USD
sunday july 8, 2007
CAD Canada Dollars 1.0495500000 0.9527892906 us dollar
thank you mr bush.
Jack Berry
dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
No terrorist attacks on our homeland since 9/11.
Thank you President Bush.
If it cost me .0476 cents difference converting to Canadian dollars for the 1 in 100 loads that I ever take across the boarder, so be it.
That is a small price to pay for the security of my family.
Thank you President Bush.
If it cost me .0476 cents difference converting to Canadian dollars for the 1 in 100 loads that I ever take across the boarder, so be it.
That is a small price to pay for the security of my family.
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
Not sure that I follow what the cost of converting has to do with the security of your family???
greg334
Veteran Expediter
David,
To Clarify;
I understand completely what you are saying but in the context of world politics, borders and such, the word is proper to use. The word Savior has two meaning, one is “one that saves from danger or destruction†– which is the intended use of the word in my text and the other and more important meaning “one who brings salvation†is to mean Jesus.
To Clarify;
I understand completely what you are saying but in the context of world politics, borders and such, the word is proper to use. The word Savior has two meaning, one is “one that saves from danger or destruction†– which is the intended use of the word in my text and the other and more important meaning “one who brings salvation†is to mean Jesus.
dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
Greg,
Thanks for the reply.
I understand the context and I appreciate your taking the time to elaborate.
My caution in using it in that context is that folks in other nations will think they need America. They don't need America...they need God.
For example, a friend of mine just returned from Kenya. On his previous visit, just before leaving Kenya, the wife of a native pastor told him to ask the Americans for a car. He told her that she did not need America, but that she really needed to seek God instead. On this recent return visit she met his rented jeep before it came to a complete stop in her driveway. She was bubbling over with joy as she told my friend how God had provided for their needs since his last visit. She lead him into the garage and showed him a car that a fellow African had given to them.
That said, I do understand the context of your original post and I appreciate your beliefs regarding our nation.
Thanks for the reply.
I understand the context and I appreciate your taking the time to elaborate.
My caution in using it in that context is that folks in other nations will think they need America. They don't need America...they need God.
For example, a friend of mine just returned from Kenya. On his previous visit, just before leaving Kenya, the wife of a native pastor told him to ask the Americans for a car. He told her that she did not need America, but that she really needed to seek God instead. On this recent return visit she met his rented jeep before it came to a complete stop in her driveway. She was bubbling over with joy as she told my friend how God had provided for their needs since his last visit. She lead him into the garage and showed him a car that a fellow African had given to them.
That said, I do understand the context of your original post and I appreciate your beliefs regarding our nation.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
OVM... you shoulda talked your wife into staying there till your kids graduated. If I could get past the constant snowy winters, symbolism over substance government, and the EU/UN-brainwashed lib population, I'd be tempted to do the same with my kids. Instead, I'll pay out the poop-shoot so my kids aren't brainwashed in our poor excuse of a government run education system.
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EXchange Rates (was) Heads Up On Husky Fuel Stops!
I am treading carefully here; this thread has changed from a comment about exchange rates and turned into national mud slinging.
I wish to return to the original topic........there is never a requirement that merchants offer any exchange on American dollars. There is a cost to their businesses as well to ensure any calculations are correct. In this day of a strong Canadian dollar versus the American dollar the difference is so small that many aren't doing so.
It is not, Diesel Diva, merely the matter of pressing a button.
I believe the responsibility rests with the person buying the ( in this instance) fuel to ensure they are protected from currency fluctuations.
Once again I suggest paying by credit card or debit card. Those are bank to bank tranactions and the exchange factors will be the most accurate.
I cannot fathom, myself, carrying large amounts of cash. The chances of having it lost or stolen are high.
I am certainly not an expert in US tax laws; but shouldn't any bank charges for the use of debit or credit cards be considered as a cost of doing business and deductable from the taxable income?
I would expect that exchange losses or gains be considered the same.
I am treading carefully here; this thread has changed from a comment about exchange rates and turned into national mud slinging.
I wish to return to the original topic........there is never a requirement that merchants offer any exchange on American dollars. There is a cost to their businesses as well to ensure any calculations are correct. In this day of a strong Canadian dollar versus the American dollar the difference is so small that many aren't doing so.
It is not, Diesel Diva, merely the matter of pressing a button.
I believe the responsibility rests with the person buying the ( in this instance) fuel to ensure they are protected from currency fluctuations.
Once again I suggest paying by credit card or debit card. Those are bank to bank tranactions and the exchange factors will be the most accurate.
I cannot fathom, myself, carrying large amounts of cash. The chances of having it lost or stolen are high.
I am certainly not an expert in US tax laws; but shouldn't any bank charges for the use of debit or credit cards be considered as a cost of doing business and deductable from the taxable income?
I would expect that exchange losses or gains be considered the same.
RE: EXchange Rates (was) Heads Up On Husky Fuel St
Sorry for the mudslinging I didn't start but was over responding POST #14 set me off that we should treat Americans as royality...The only American this guy bows to is my wife.
As she has asked me to back off this thread as it serves no good. Done deal.
Sorry for the mudslinging I didn't start but was over responding POST #14 set me off that we should treat Americans as royality...The only American this guy bows to is my wife.
As she has asked me to back off this thread as it serves no good. Done deal.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
RE: EXchange Rates (was) Heads Up On Husky Fuel St
As you can see, I'm an equal opportunity basher. Both countries are screwed up in their own way. :7
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As you can see, I'm an equal opportunity basher. Both countries are screwed up in their own way. :7
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RE: EXchange Rates (was) Heads Up On Husky Fuel St
OVM, I have to opoligize for a lot of my fellow Americans, and, what they "expect" BECAUSE they are Americans. And most that expect, did not do their part to earn the respect. They only can mouth about it. Unfortuneately. You are only seeing the tip of the iceburg as to what Americans expect. Worse part is, you otta see our Embasy Pukes perform while representing Americans in all parts of the world. This "expect" typed here was mild. Lot like Expediters, they "expect" that roast goose to fly in their open face.
OVM, I have to opoligize for a lot of my fellow Americans, and, what they "expect" BECAUSE they are Americans. And most that expect, did not do their part to earn the respect. They only can mouth about it. Unfortuneately. You are only seeing the tip of the iceburg as to what Americans expect. Worse part is, you otta see our Embasy Pukes perform while representing Americans in all parts of the world. This "expect" typed here was mild. Lot like Expediters, they "expect" that roast goose to fly in their open face.