He Finally "Bows" To An American.....

[dieseldiva]

LOL.......

Link

 

[tbubster]

When it comes down to it some one at the whitehouse realized this was a bad idea.They wanted to steal the "SPOT LIGHT" from the republican debate,Even went so far as to say they could push the debate back to a later time slot.Then they reailzed This would give the the republican candidates a direct opportunity to debate his speach and his "NEW PLAN" to help America recover.

Also it is my belife we may see this pushed back one more day.The 8th is opening night of the regular season football.Yes I know they may just push back the broadcast of the game but then again The time slot is worth alot of money and it is on NBC.

 

[Falligator]

I'm just sick and tired of the petty politics between both parties. Now Eric Cantor (R) is calling for any emergency aid going to the hurricane victims to be paid for with cuts in other programs. I understand the need for fiscal responsibility, but Mr. Cantor himself has asked for relief aid himself with no strings attached when VA had hurricane Gustav. I think there needs to be a fourth party called "the common sense party". I think residents of jersery, NC, Vermont and all those areas affected should have access right away to any money so they can start putting the pieces back together.

 

[tbubster]

IM TIRED of poeple that belive our taxes should go to anyone who says they need them.Im tired of a president that refuses to put AMERICA FIRST.I am tired of a president and a democrat controlled SENATE that wants to make a big deal out of what cantor said when senate has been sitting on a house approved budget since june that gives FEMA emergency funds to carry them over the rest of the year.This emergency budget does not require cuts to anything.talk about petty polotics.Im tired of people that dont understand the government does not have a blank check in the form of tax payer dollars.Im tired of people who dont understand its not their money to give to who ever they want.I belive that the US GOVERNMENT should wait and see what damage is going to be coverd under insurance befor they start throwing our money around.OBAMA NOR ANY DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN asked for extra emergency funds this summer when tornadoes ripped apart mid america doing billions of dollars in damage and killing over 300 people.I guess not enough voters were affected.

You bet your butt for every dollar in aid there should be a dollar cut from somewhere else.Im tired of people that dont understand we have no more money to spend.Im tired of my goverment BOTH PARTYS spending CHINA'S MONEY!!

CHEFDENNIS posted a link (At leats I think it was him)some months back.Its a great read fits this just right I hope he does not mind Im gonna use it here.

Not Yours To Give - Colonel Davy Crockett

Both partys and everybody in this great country need to relize this maybe a couple of hundred years old but it holds more truth and meaning today then ever.YES I STILL SEE THIS COUNTRY I LOVE AS A GREAT COUNTRY.

 

[AMonger]

I'm just sick and tired of the petty politics between both parties. Now Eric Cantor (R) is calling for any emergency aid going to the hurricane victims to be paid for with cuts in other programs. I understand the need for fiscal responsibility, but Mr. Cantor himself has asked for relief aid himself with no strings attached when VA had hurricane Gustav. I think there needs to be a fourth party called "the common sense party". I think residents of jersery, NC, Vermont and all those areas affected should have access right away to any money so they can start putting the pieces back together.

If we're going to use public money for emergency aid (not that we should, but if we do), why does it bother you for it to be cut from other programs? You realize that it would otherwise have to be borrowed, right? Why is that better?

What go you do with an emergency, unexpected bill in your own life, assuming you've been borrowing like a drunken sailor for years and are say the point where those with money would be fools to loan it to you?

Lots and lots of waste in the budget.in the form of unconstitutional spending. Way over a trillion.

 

[chefdennis]

Yeap i posted it, and nope, no problem with you reposting it..it is a great story and how our government is suppose to work...but the libs just don't seem to understand and yes thats libs on both sides...

Tax dollars are not to be used for charity situations, it really is that simple and it is how our founders set it up....but, what did they know, i mean what they put together was sooo long ago and means nothing anymore...just look around and you can see that...


The quote from Professor Walter Williams at the bottom in my taglines sayes it very well....oh and Professor williams is a black man, raised in a poor family by a single mom...i guess his mom didn't realize they were poor and needed the government to "help" them...

 

[dieseldiva]

Since this thread has been hijacked as so often happens, I'll go with it.

I'm one who survived a natural disaster in the early seventies before Fema was formed. The relief was provided by the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and was looked at as needed only by those who were not or were under insured. We were not one of those. After many detours around damaged areas and a trip to a hospital in the Dayton area, we arrived at my Mom's house 13 miles from Xenia late on the night of the tornado.

I tell you all that to say this, a few days later, I watched in disbelief as my Mom's neighbor's kids drug in supplies from the Red Cross that were designated for the victims.....remember, they lived 13 miles away from any of the damage.

Now fast forward to hurricane Katrina. Am I the only one that recalls gift cards being passed around like candy and the reports of them being used for high ticket items? I surely can't be the only driver that has driven past the "fields of dreams".....Fema's nightmare parking spots for all those campers that were not and cannot be used. Oh, how about all that ice that was never used and was driven somewhere up the east coast and allowed to melt?

The point is, there's so much abuse, as there is with any government program, but it's far easier to scam in times of emergency. Do I think the government should sit by and do nothing, not necessarily and these folks are being air lifted supplies by the military so it's not like they're sitting on the top of their roofs screaming for help. I just think that the government should be the last resort and down through the years, it's become the first place that people look for help and criticize if it doesn't come through like they think it should.

Let the states and local communities take on the bulk of the burden to help their own and you might just be surprised at how far the American citizens will dig down in their pockets to help that effort.

As far as Eric Cantor, he's now backing away from those statements but I will say that if he received help because of a natural disaster and there was money at that time in the Fema coffers then oh well......you can be upset about it all you want and it doesn't change a thing, just as I could be upset and say that he and no one else should take any of that help because it wasn't there for me "back in the day".......how stupid would that be.

 

[layoutshooter]

Back to the "joke in chief" and his "bowing". I don't care how often or who he bows too, as long as he just "Bows out" soon and for GOOD!!

 

[greg334]

Diva,
One of the problems with today's style of running disaster relief is the little ideas that get into the way of proper and local relief efforts.

In the past we never had problems with local, state officials doing the work Fema is now doing and the complexity that they have brought has discouraged people from stepping up and helping.

One thing that we used to depend on is Amateur Radio, but now we have a hodge podge of communications systems and it takes people who are vetted, approved and otherwise deputized to operate with their system. The efficiencies are no longer there, the claim that we need interoperability between agencies and officials has never materialized while the 9/11 commission members say communications is the number one thing that needs to be fixed.

What amazes me is in the past, when were were actually facing massive disasters from nuke attacks by the Soviets, we had a pretty good civil defense system that seemed to have worked when disasters did happen. We didn't have the massive clusters of messes like Katrina and we didn't have finger pointing. The civil defense system didn't have a vetting process with background checks, FBI interviews or the need to have professional relief workers standing by.

Maybe we need to return to that system or a state only run system with the state depending on their own to provide help.

 

[tbubster]

Since this thread has been hijacked as so often happens, I'll go with it.

I'm one who survived a natural disaster in the early seventies before Fema was formed. The relief was provided by the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and was looked at as needed only by those who were not or were under insured. We were not one of those. After many detours around damaged areas and a trip to a hospital in the Dayton area, we arrived at my Mom's house 13 miles from Xenia late on the night of the tornado.

I tell you all that to say this, a few days later, I watched in disbelief as my Mom's neighbor's kids drug in supplies from the Red Cross that were designated for the victims.....remember, they lived 13 miles away from any of the damage.

Now fast forward to hurricane Katrina. Am I the only one that recalls gift cards being passed around like candy and the reports of them being used for high ticket items? I surely can't be the only driver that has driven past the "fields of dreams".....Fema's nightmare parking spots for all those campers that were not and cannot be used. Oh, how about all that ice that was never used and was driven somewhere up the east coast and allowed to melt?

The point is, there's so much abuse, as there is with any government program, but it's far easier to scam in times of emergency. Do I think the government should sit by and do nothing, not necessarily and these folks are being air lifted supplies by the military so it's not like they're sitting on the top of their roofs screaming for help. I just think that the government should be the last resort and down through the years, it's become the first place that people look for help and criticize if it doesn't come through like they think it should.

Let the states and local communities take on the bulk of the burden to help their own and you might just be surprised at how far the American citizens will dig down in their pockets to help that effort.

As far as Eric Cantor, he's now backing away from those statements but I will say that if he received help because of a natural disaster and there was money at that time in the Fema coffers then oh well......you can be upset about it all you want and it doesn't change a thing, just as I could be upset and say that he and no one else should take any of that help because it wasn't there for me "back in the day".......how stupid would that be.

It seems I helped with the start of the hijacking and for that im sorry just got ticked off a little when when I seen the one post.I talked about this in another thread and how the bill for funding is already in the senate.Yet some sheep seem to belive everything that is written.Well as long as it shows the republicans in a bad light.Although I will say again if there is to be more money then for every dollar in aid then there needs to be a dollar in cuts somewhere.

As far as the thread goes I will say yes he did yes he bowed to republicans.I just think its because he knew it would back fire for him to do it when they first wanted to.Here is a link While alot of it is about slamming republicans there is more then one Democrat slamming Obama for bowing.


Dems want Obama's job speech to contrast with GOP - Yahoo! News



Here is another.Whats funny is I was talking to my nephew he is big on Obama no one in family is sure how this happend.Anyway when I told him what was going on he started laughing,I asked him what he was laughing about he said even he had to admit this was just a ploy By the white house to steal the show so to speak from republicans.And in the end it just makes Obama look bed on both sides.Which is what we want right?


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-boehner...Nwb2xpdGljcwRwdANzZWN0aW9ucwR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3

 

[clcooper]

relief was provided by the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and was looked at as needed only by those who were not or were under insured. .

welcome to obamacare

I tell you all that to say this, a few days later, I watched in disbelief as my Mom's neighbor's kids drug in supplies from the Red Cross that were designated for the victims.....remember, they lived 13 miles away from any of the damage.

but they worked hard to scam that stuff .

Now fast forward to hurricane Katrina. Am I the only one that recalls gift cards being passed around like candy and the reports of them being used for high ticket items? I surely can't be the only driver that has driven past the "fields of dreams".....Fema's nightmare parking spots for all those campers that were not and cannot be used. Oh, how about all that ice that was never used and was driven somewhere up the east coast and allowed to melt?..

thsy had to do it that way because a big company needed to make a PROFIT

The point is, there's so much abuse, as there is with any government program, but it's far easier to scam in times of emergency..

it is not abuse they are working hard . but to scam you got to work hard not to get cought . SO IT IS OK BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD WORKERS trying to make a profit

Let the states and local communities take on the bulk of the burden to help their own and you might just be surprised at how far the American citizens will dig down in their pockets to help that effort. .

why do we have insurance . and some we are forced to buy . where is the insurance companies at these times . oh thats right the insurance dont have to pay because your house was built with 1 1/5 inch nails and now the insurance Require 2 inch nails . so now they dont have to pay you anything .

keep this on topic . he bowed to teach us .how we all should bow to him and the rest of the crooks .