"Have You Ever Been Stopped By A Policeman Who's An Idiot? He's An IDIOT!"

witness23

Veteran Expediter
You don't have to answer that, its rhetorical.

The epitome of sheer arrogance right before your eyes ladies and gentleman.

link: Extended video of Kasich’s “idiot cop” traffic stop

Extended video of Kasich’s “idiot cop” traffic stop
By Joseph On October 17, 2011

As we hit the final stretch of the battle over SB5/Issue 2, it seems like a good time to remember how little respect Kasich has shown for public employees, and police officers specifically. And what better way to highlight that than by revisiting Kasich’s “idiot cop” comment and traffic stop.

Back in January Kasich publicly berated the Ohio EPA claiming it was plagued by “a lack of commitment and a lack of vision” and, in short, blamed the EPA for the delay of a new permit for a gas-fueled power plant. The Governor claimed his administration had, despite the shortcomings of the department and its employees, magically gotten the permit approved.

When an employee of the EPA explained to the press that the delays were actually caused by the company, not the EPA, Kasich freaked! He ordered every Ohio EPA employee from around the state to come to Columbus so he could lecture them about not talking to the press. It was during this event (which cost taxpayers over $5000 in direct costs, and tons more in lost work hours) that Kasich made his now-famous “idiot cop” remarks.

During the event, Kasich tells the story of a police officer, Officer Robert Barrett of the Columbus Police Department, who had pulled over Kasich three years earlier. For some reason, Kasich has continued to hold a grudge against the officer for all this time and proceeds to use him as an example of poor customer service.

In his story, Kasich claims he couldn’t have seen the flashing lights and claims the officer was “an idiot” because he had the nerve to inform Kasich of the legal requirement to appear in court for the law he had broken. According to Kasich, the officer gave him a ticket and said “you must report to court and if you don’t report to court we’re putting a warrant out for your arrest. He’s AN IDIOT!”

Here’s the video of Kasich’s comment.

Link to video: Kasich, Ohio's governor, thinks cops that do their jobs are idiots - YouTube

So that’s Kasich’s version of the story. He got pulled over for passing a public safety vehicle that he says he never saw. And the idiot officer who pulled him over told him he would get arrested if he didn’t show up for court.

Now here’s the video of the actual traffic stop. Note: this video contains a few additional minutes of footage that show the officer presenting Kasich with the ticket and explaining the mandatory court appearance.

Link to video: Extended Kasich Traffic Stop - YouTube

In the video you can clearly see Kasich not yielding for the state trooper. There was no vehicle in front of him blocking his view of the trooper and no one next to him preventing him from pulling into the next lane. Notice Kasich’s lane is completely clear of vehicles except for his. Somehow everyone else on the road was able to see the emergency vehicle and move over except for Kasich – who didn’t even slow down. It appears that Kasich was clearly in violation of the law here.

And in the new, extended portion (jump ahead to 8:45) you can also hear Officer Barrett explain the situation to Kasich: “in the state of Ohio this is a mandatory court appearance so you will have to appear in court. You have a court date set for one week from today.”

He tells Kasich that he must “show up for court or they will issue a warrant and you will lose your driver’s license.” He also, very politely, informs Kasich, after he asks if he can just pay the fine, that the court appearance is required because the state legislature passed a law (ORC 4511.213) requiring a mandatory court appearance and a mandatory double fine for not yielding to a public safety vehicle.

It’s worth noting that Kasich tells his story while lecturing EPA employees about poor customer service but, in fact, the story is a perfect example of the opposite. Informing people of all the facts in a polite, respectful manner so they won’t be confused, or end up with a warrant and suspended license, seems like the exact definition of good client service.

Kasich’s disrespectful and nasty comments about public employees are not new. Back in 2009 he promised to “break the back of organized labor in the schools” and before he made his idiot cop comment he’d already accused Ohio’s law enforcement officers of “hiding in the bushes” and “sneaking in the weeds.” Obviously Kasich has a problem with teachers and police officers. And, based on the extreme, union-busting provisions in Senate Bill 5, all public (and likely private) union members as well.

On November 8th, lets show Ohio’s police officers, fire fighters, teachers and other public employees that we respect them a hell of a lot more than Governor Kasich.

On November 8th, Vote NO on Issue 2.
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
Pop Quiz!!!!

Can anyone sight another error that Mr. Kasich made during the video?

Which one??? You've got 3 or 4 videos up there........ ;)

I do believe that Kasich is an "Idiot" with regards to what's above. I saw nothing wrong with the traffic stop, the Officer was quite Professional, slooowwwww in writing the ticket, but Professional, and the stop was routine. But, I fully support Kasich when it comes to Union Busting, period.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Wow. There's no scandal here, there's no revelations here, there's no nothing here, other than a Caine Mutiny-esque strawberries and ball bearings rambling deflection of a pro-union, quite likely of the state, employee, which results in an awful lot of writing and YouTubeing just to say, "On November 8th, Vote NO on Issue 2." What a hoot. Thanks for posting it.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Wow. There's no scandal here,

No one said it was scandal.

there's no revelations here,

I would disagree, In front of a crowd of men and women that the Governor brought to Columbus to lecture them about talking to the press, he brings up a situation where he was pulled over and uses the police officer as an example of poor customer service. So, the revelation, if you will, is that Gov. Kasich is actually the IDIOT!

there's no nothing here,

Au contraire mon fraire. There is a few things here. One, you see the Governors contempt towards public servants. Two, you witness the impudent behavior of the Gov. Three, he lied. He called the police officer an idiot because the officer told him he had to appear in court. He used the scenario as a poor example of customer service, but in fact it was the total opposite. There are plenty more examples of this man's hubris, this is just one example that came back to bite him in the arse.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
BTW.....is there audio to the first video of Kasich talking to the EPA employee's? There was on Monday night when I first saw the article but now I am unable to hear any audio for that video.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
No one said it was scandal.
I'm aware of that, but thee types of Blog posts are usually about some kind of scandal or another, or some kind of shocking revelation about the political figure, or something else of substance they wish to relate to the point they are trying to make. There's none of that here.

I would disagree {on my assertion there is no revelation here}, In front of a crowd of men and women that the Governor brought to Columbus to lecture them about talking to the press, he brings up a situation where he was pulled over and uses the police officer as an example of poor customer service. So, the revelation, if you will, is that Gov. Kasich is actually the IDIOT!
I did not realize that you thought him to be something other than an idiot, and only found out about it through the revelations in this story. My apologies. I should amend my statement to there are no revelations here for most people who are familiar with the governor.

Au contraire mon fraire. There is a few things here. One, you see the Governors contempt towards public servants. Two, you witness the impudent behavior of the Gov. Three, he lied. He called the police officer an idiot because the officer told him he had to appear in court. He used the scenario as a poor example of customer service, but in fact it was the total opposite. There are plenty more examples of this man's hubris, this is just one example that came back to bite him in the arse.
you gonnat cut me off in mid-sentence and take the "there's no nothing here," out of context like that? Really? I qualified the "nothing here" quite clearly. Why would you ignore that part of my point? The post is supposed to be about voting NO on Issue 2, that's what the entire setup was about, except the governor ranting about poor customer service has nothing whatsoever to do with voting NO on Issue 2. Nothing.

The governor is an idiot, therefore you should vote NO on Issue 2? Really? Because that's precisely what this post says.

It's a badly written Blog post, and the author should be ashamed of his public school education, especially if the Blogger is a teacher, which he probably is. I wouldn't be surprised if he's an English Literature teacher at a high school in Columbus. <snort>
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
I'm aware of that, but thee types of Blog posts are usually about some kind of scandal or another, or some kind of shocking revelation about the political figure, or something else of substance they wish to relate to the point they are trying to make. There's none of that here.

The point of the article was about voting NO on Issue 2. Why does the author have to have a "scandal" or "shocking revelation" to report, in order to write the article? Do you know what Issue 2 is, well actually, was about? I am going to assume that you do. I think it would be obvious to most that the author is drawing a pattern here. For God's sakes, he tell's you what it is in his opening paragraph:

As we hit the final stretch of the battle over SB5/Issue 2, it seems like a good time to remember how little respect Kasich has shown for public employees, and police officers specifically.​

I think the author is going to highlight the Governors disrespect towards public servants :rolleyes:. First example, getting upset with the state EPA employee's for informing the press that it was actually the company holding up the permit for a gas-fueled power plant, not the EPA. Second, calling a police officer an idiot, when actually, the police officer was nothing but professional and courteous.

I did not realize that you thought him to be something other than an idiot, and only found out about it through the revelations in this story.

I didn't post the article for myself, I posted it for the soapbox. You know he's an idiot, I know he's an idiot, but those who might not be familiar with Mr. Kasich may not know he's an ididot. I thought it was a good article to post so that other's that may not have been aware of or seen the comments the Governor had made about the EPA and the police officer. Consider it a public service and pieces to the puzzle.

My apologies. I should amend my statement to there are no revelations here for most people who are familiar with the governor.

Okay, so you are aware of the Governor as am I. Obviously for you and I, this wouldn't be a "revelation" if you will, but it may be for others that didn't know about it. Its not all about you bro.

you gonnat cut me off in mid-sentence and take the "there's no nothing here," out of context like that? Really? I qualified the "nothing here" quite clearly.

The only thing you qualified is that you already knew the Governor was an idiot and felt as if you had to pontificate on how the article was a waste of your time.

except the governor ranting about poor customer service has nothing whatsoever to do with voting NO on Issue 2. Nothing.

Well, I guess I was wrong, you don't know what Issue 2 is about. Not only was the article about voting no on Issue 2, its about the Governors character.

The governor is an idiot, therefore you should vote NO on Issue 2? Really? Because that's precisely what this post says.

Precisely.

It's a badly written Blog post, and the author should be ashamed of his public school education, especially if the Blogger is a teacher, which he probably is. I wouldn't be surprised if he's an English Literature teacher at a high school in Columbus. <snort>

Okay :rolleyes:.

I don't know, its a typical essay in which he covered all the bases with an introduction, the main body, and then a conclusion.
 

muttly

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I think you're right - he's an extremely arrogant little *****

He did what Ron Paul would have did so what's you problem with Kasich? He acted boldly to get his state heading in the right direction and he tried to do the right thing.
 
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