GOP thinks racism ended.

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Go visit the Wind River Indian Reservation west of Casper, Wyoming.
Things have improved for the Shoshone Indians. Most now have steel belted radial tires on the roofs of their trailers rather than bias ply tires.
 

davekc

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Is what I think: Obama was elected to 'prove' that racism has been largely overcome. It hasn't, and even if Obama were a great President, it wouldn't make any difference to the racists.
Like Turtle says, we really can't make up for the past, [and the Indian reservations prove how little we care about it, really], we can only go forward. And FWIW: affirmative action and minority quotas are not helping.

Affirmative action had its place and time but I agree, it really has no value at this point. In fact I would also agree that it hurts more than helps minorities at this point.
 

piattteam

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Racism still exists due to African Americans hating whites? That is one of the most amazing statements I've ever read. I hope white America can forgive the blacks for slavery and Jim Crow.

I never owned a black. My parents never owned a black. My grandparents never owned a black.
Slavery was a horrible part of our history- horrible! And it still lives on, in other areas of our planet!
Different black tribes in Africa still capture blacks from other tribes and sell them for slaves, or keep as their own property.
When most people talk about the terrible slavery from our countries past, they forget to mention it was black capturing black and selling them to the whites. The whites didn't ho into the wild and catch blacks.
No, that doesn't clear our ancestors of their wrong doing, just stating facts.

I do remember white/negro toilets, water fountains, etc.. Thus was also way wrong, but corrected YEARS ago!

If there is to be no discrimination, how can the law discriminate?
Should be no mention of race, sex, color, etc., on ANY application. Go strictly by the best applicant for the position, school placement, housing, food stamps, welfare, etc.!
 

Brisco

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So... Folks that spend quite a bit of their time talking up personal responsibility seem to think that whatever we did yesterday we don't have to be responsible for today. Kind of like a statute of limitations.

Ok, Slavery was a while ago but blacks didn't even get the 40 acres and a mule they were promised. It hasn't been a level playing field since then by any stretch of the imagination.

And then you have the Jim Crow era. We shouldn't take responsibility for how "we" acted? We white people were nasty and mean.

LOT of IGNORANCE is rampant in this thread...............

My 2 Cents................

America?s first slave owner was a black man.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.


The First Legal Slave Owner in What Would Become the United States was a Black Man


Not even worth keeping up with........................:rolleyes:
 
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RoadTime

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Even from a grammar standpoint, the Tweet didn't imply that racism is over. It's used "ending" which is an indefinite ongoing process (the bring to, or coming to a close, but not there yet). If it had said "her role that ended racism" it would imply that racism is already over.

Good observation. The tweet makes sense now. Kind of on the lines of a joke that few get, if you have to explain it...:rolleyes:
 

Turtle

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By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Let's keep it real and in perspective, shall we? The quoted numbers above is an attempt to use the exception to the rule to disprove the rule.

In 1860 of the 1,515,605 free families in the fifteen slave states, 399,852 held slaves (26.4%). 3,813 of these families where black (0.95%), 396,039 were white (99.05%). In 1860 the number of black slaves in the fifteen slave states was 3,999,734. The number of these slaved owned by black families totaled 26,691 (.0.67%). The number of these slaves owned by white families totaled 3,973,043 (99.33%).

So no, it wasn't 100% of the white people who owned 100% of the black slaves, but it was close. The statement that "We white people were nasty and mean," is neither ignorant nor incorrect.

On a separate note, specifically for Witness, yes, the African-Americans of today should count their lucky stars that their ancestors were brought to America. The overwhelming majority of the African-Americans of today have it far, far better than the overwhelming majority of African-Africans do. :D
 

WanderngFool

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Good observation. The tweet makes sense now. Kind of on the lines of a joke that few get, if you have to explain it...:rolleyes:

Except that the vast majority of people automatically think of something that was ending 50+ years ago as having ended. At the very least it was an awkward choice of words.
 

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On a separate note, specifically for Witness, yes, the African-Americans of today should count their lucky stars that their ancestors were brought to America. The overwhelming majority of the African-Americans of today have it far, far better than the overwhelming majority of African-Africans do. :D

And that basically sums it up. The whiners and complainers here have no idea what it is like on foreign soil in many places. They would have a much different prospective if they started looking around a little bit.
 

witness23

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And that basically sums it up. The whiners and complainers here have no idea what it is like on foreign soil in many places. They would have a much different prospective if they started looking around a little bit.

Please share with us the foreign soils you have been to.

You have know idea where I've been, so it would be prudent not to assume I haven't visited foreign soils as you have stated above.
 

layoutshooter

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Except that the vast majority of people automatically think of something that was ending 50+ years ago as having ended. At the very least it was an awkward choice of words.

It would be either a VERY weak minded person or a person who is incapable of independent observation, that would believe that racism has ended, in this country, or anywhere else on the face of this planet. Same can be said for slavery.
 

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Please share with us the foreign soils you have been to.

You have know idea where I've been, so it would be prudent not to assume I haven't visited foreign soils as you have stated above.

Are you a whiner and complainer? I didn't assume anything.
 

WanderngFool

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It would be either a VERY weak minded person or a person who is incapable of independent observation, that would believe that racism has ended, in this country, or anywhere else on the face of this planet. Same can be said for slavery.

And that is exactly why people are making fun of that tweet. They compare what they know from "independent observation" to that bizarre remark and since it's incongruous they nail the GOP for stepping in it.
 

layoutshooter

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And that is exactly why people are making fun of that tweet. They compare what they know from "independent observation" to that bizarre remark and since it's incongruous they nail the GOP for stepping in it.


It also points out how bad people's use of language and the meaning of words has become. I myself would have worded it differently but what they were trying to say was correct.
 

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The author of the article (Conner Simpson) is a liberal nitwit. His perspective is probably best illustrated by a quote from an article by another, more intelligent and experienced author:

"It is not just the history of slavery that gets distorted beyond recognition by the selective filtering of facts. Those who mine history in order to find everything they can to undermine American society or Western civilization have very little interest in the Bataan death march, the atrocities of the Ottoman Empire, or similar atrocities in other times and places.
Those who mine history for sins are not searching for truth but for opportunities to denigrate their own society, or for grievances that can be cashed in today at the expense of people who were not even born when the sins of the past were committed."

- Thomas Sowell

Misusing History | National Review Online

For anyone looking for some additional education on the above subject, Dr. Sowell has an excellent book called Black Rednecks and White Liberals, available from Amazon and other sources.

Black Rednecks and White Liberals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Turtle

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It also points out how bad people's use of language and the meaning of words has become. I myself would have worded it differently but what they were trying to say was correct.
Exactly. By making fun of the Tweet and nailing the GOP for it, all they are really doing is announcing to the world their own ignorance of the English language and grammar.
 

letzrockexpress

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It would be either a VERY weak minded person or a person who is incapable of independent observation, that would believe that racism has ended, in this country, or anywhere else on the face of this planet. Same can be said for slavery.

Absolutely correct. Racism is global, not domestic. Black vs. White is a miniscule facet of racism. It will never end. Us vs. Them is inherent, not merely cultural.
 
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