Good Price

[layoutshooter]

Found a good price, by today's standards, on 5.56MM ammunition. It brass cased, not steel, 62GR FMJ. $720 for non-club members, $684 for members. The prices are for 1500 rounds. Worth a look if you need any.






.223 (5.56x45mm) Rifle Ammo | .223 (5.56x45mm)rifle Ammunition At Sportsman's Guide

 

[LDB]

Membership is $30 and the savings is $36 so it would pay for a year and save a few more dollars. That's not a bad price in today's world.

 

[KickStarter6]

62gr makes barrel goofy. Ill stick 55gr steel case. Decentish price tho

 

[layoutshooter]

62gr makes barrel goofy. Ill stick 55gr steel case. Decentish price tho

I don't know what you mean by 62GR makes barrel "goofy".

What rifle? What barrel length and twist rate? What is the rifle cambered for, 5.56MM, .223REM, or a Wylde chamber?

I would STRONGLY suggest you stay away from steel case ammunition. It will, over time, damage the chamber and make the rifle unsafe. That is true regardless of the manufacture of the steel cases. Steels cases are also not reloadable and there is no resale market on them.

 

[KickStarter6]

Steel casing isn't as bad as people portray. The quality has gotten much better since its introduction. Sure it's not gonna shot sub MOA, but for plinking steel casing is a great way to get trigger time. The twist rate in my barrel dictates how accurate it is, my barrel doesn't like warmer loads so 55gr is the best choice for my setup

 

[KickStarter6]

How cares if steel case isn't reloadable? It's target ammo anyways. I'd much rather have 3000 rounds of steel that a 1,000 of brass. People that don't like steel cased ammo just hate Russians lol Jk. But to back up my statements check out the military arms channel on YouTube, that's what he uses in all his videos. Make sure you clean you gun properly and there shouldn't be an issue

 

[layoutshooter]

How cares if steel case isn't reloadable? It's target ammo anyways. I'd much rather have 3000 rounds of steel that a 1,000 of brass. People that don't like steel cased ammo just hate Russians lol Jk. But to back up my statements check out the military arms channel on YouTube, that's what he uses in all his videos. Make sure you clean you gun properly and there shouldn't be an issue

Sorry, can't buy it. Goes against EVERY I have been taught and learned. The steel in the cases can be as hard, or hard, than the steel in the throat of the chamber. It will cause excessive wear over time. The Russian stuff is also often not consistent, in chamber pressure, accuracy, etc. Cleaning has little to do with it. With ammo the old saying, "you get what you pay for", holds VERY true. I like HIGH end stuff, for hunting and target. Nothing like making only one hole for every 3-5 shots. Low end ammo is not capable of that.

What about the "goofy" part with 62gr? Like to know more, may be able to help.

The "reloadalbe" part of the brass makes it sellable, even if you do not reload.

 

[KickStarter6]

For hunting or targeted practice yes by all means I agree good high end ammo is the way to. But for plinking around shooting at steel plates or coke bottles steel casing is a great way to training. I have a old pretty worn out double star receiver(probably at least 35k shot thru it) and a polymer lower. To tell you the truth I couldn't tell you internal bits because I bought it used on the cheap. It's accurate enough with steel ammo to hit a pop can from about 50 meters so I'm alright with it. Certainly not a go to war gun or personal defense weapon but from just wasting ammo or shooting exploding targets does wonders. I also have a Mosin Nagant that I've put rough 13k rounds thru it use a mix of surplus ammo and steel case. Keep her clean and she works like a charm

 

[layoutshooter]

Here is some real testing on the subject. I just find it in my heart to hurt one of my "friends" by shooting steel cases. I am just that way! LOL!

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

I still don't get the "goofy" part? I need caliber, twist rates, barrel lenght, etc. MOST AR15's SHOULD handle 55GR and 62GR equally well. The 62GR should perform better, since most AR's are based on military models and the military shoots 62GR FMJ (Lake City manufacture) rounds out of a 16" barrel with a 1:9 twist rate.

 

[KickStarter6]

1:7 twist 18in barrel .223

 

[layoutshooter]

I assume you were shooting .223 ammo, not 5.56MM. I don't understand why it did not like 62GR. It SHOULD handle it better than 55GR. It SHOULD handle all the way up to 77GR.

Brand of rifle? What do you mean by "making your barrel goofy"? Have you tried different ammo? Different brands? Different bullets?
I LOVE a good puzzle like this! Few things out there that are more fun than making a rifle perform correctly!

 

[KickStarter6]

I've tried several different type of ammo. From steel case to nice brass stuff, Different weights and brand too. I since its a mismatch of parts from who know how many manufacturers I imagine it would be a hard one to diagnose without getting to see it in person. It just seems that the heavier the grain bullet the more flyers it sends out. I will say this that ill probably be purchasing a nice LE6920 or IWI Tavor this summer and putting this out to pasture lol

 

[layoutshooter]

Barrel could be shot out too. You said you got it used, did you not? If so, it's hard to tell how many rounds have been put through it.

What trigger weight are you looking for ?

I had a 5# trigger put on my new rifle. It came with a 7#. Most military rifles break at 8 or 9. FAR to heavy for my liking.

Mine has a Wylde chamber, 16" barrel, 1:7 twist.

 

[KickStarter6]

I bought it used and the guy I stated he'd put probably 25-30k thru they upper and had to replace the lower due to metal fatigue . I'm guessing it has a cheap lower because its polymer. Maybe $75 preprice hike of last year. I only paid like $325 for it and that was 5 years ago so it's certainly been worth it. Sloppy trigger probably at least 9#. Any suggestion or comments on any AR platform?

 

[layoutshooter]

I bought it used and the guy I stated he'd put probably 25-30k thru they upper and had to replace the lower due to metal fatigue . I'm guessing it has a cheap lower because its polymer. Maybe $75 preprice hike of last year. I only paid like $325 for it and that was 5 years ago so it's certainly been worth it. Sloppy trigger probably at least 9#. Any suggestion or comments on any AR platform?

Sounds like the barrel it toast. Polymer lowers are fine. Barrels should be replaced around every 10K.

There are LOTS of good AR platforms out there. Rock River is good, Windham. I bought one in NC, went to the factory, Ram Arms. So far it is good. Fits me well and it is a tad barrel heavy, which I like.

What kind of money are you looking to spend? Are you looking at a piston or direct impingement rifle?

 

[KickStarter6]

I do like the idea of a piston operated AR. The Sig M400's are nice for the price point, so are the windhams. If I had the cash getting the Ruger 556 would be my too choice. I might go with Doublestar because their factory is only 30 minutes away from my house, so local dealers get real good prices on them

 

[layoutshooter]

I do like the idea of a piston operated AR. The Sig M400's are nice for the price point, so are the windhams. If I had the cash getting the Ruger 556 would be my too choice. I might go with Doublestar because their factory is only 30 minutes away from my house, so local dealers get real good prices on them

All of those are good. The Ruger has a "heavy" trigger, but that is an easy fix. My gunsmith works only with Doublestar, he swears by them.

I saw this on in MN

Huldra » Rifles » Huldra Mark IV 5.56 Carbine

Ifn you want to spend a LOT of money, check these two out

CA-15 Recon Tactical Gun - Christensen ArmsChristensen Arms

Barrett

OR

http://shopnoveske.com/collections/rifles

http://www.blackrainordnance.com/products/category/rifles

 

[KickStarter6]

My previous job before driving for my dad was working "Walmart of gun stores" a big online retailer from the central Kentucky area that's name rhymes with dudsfunshoppe.com. Don't buy anything from them just saying

 

[layoutshooter]

My previous job before driving for my dad was working "Walmart of gun stores" a big online retailer from the central Kentucky area that's name rhymes with dudsfunshoppe.com. Don't buy anything from them just saying

LOL! Thanks for the warning. I know the local shop that handles my transfers won't deal with them.

You may only need an upper for you lower. Replace the fire control group with a "JP" system. Slap on an upper and off you go!

 

[KickStarter6]

Very true but I want that new gun smell lol. Duds funshoppe seemed during my 1+ year of employment went out of their way to screw customers over unless they had spent a minimum of 10k-15k with buds I mean duds lol