Global Warming

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Who does ALGORE have to blame on this? It has happened before, it will happen again. The article describes a WARM arctic, not all that long ago in "G" time. Even with C02 levels that were only slightly higher than what we have now. Cycle warm, cycle cold, etc etc etc.

[h=1]Ice Cores Reveal Green Arctic

The Arctic wasn't always covered in ice. Samples of
sediment layers beneath a frozen lake show this region used to be a lot warmer—and may thaw out again in the future. The work is in the journalScience. [Julie Brigham-Grette et al, Pliocene Warmth, Polar Amplification, and Stepped Pleistocene Cooling Recorded in NE Arctic Russia][/h]
El'gygytgyn, a Russian lake 100 kilometers north of the Arctic Circle, contains layers of sediment that date back to the lake's formation 3.6 million years ago. Analyses of sediment cores have revealed that back then summers reached about 15 to 16 degrees Celsius, a good 8 degrees warmer than modern Arctic summers. These warm temperatures, which supported plants like Douglas fir and hemlock, lasted until about 2.2 million years ago.
Using a sediment core as a detailed history of climate change, scientists can see how the forested Arctic gradually became covered in ice and snow. These changes help us understand details about the development of Ice Ages. In addition, the sediment comes from a window of time during the Pliocene Epoch, when greenhouse gas levels were only slightly higher than they are today. Such sensitivity to small carbon dioxide changes hint at a warm Arctic future.—Sophie Bushwick








Ice Cores Reveal Green Arctic
 

EnglishLady

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Ahh I wasn't sure if you were fed up with 'Global Warming' threads ...... :p

From the story you posted ... "In addition, the sediment comes from a window of time during the Pliocene Epoch, when greenhouse gas levels were only slightly higher than they are today"

To this story .....

"Scientists are calling on world leaders to take action on climate change after carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere broke through a symbolic threshold.

Daily CO2 readings at a US government agency lab on Hawaii have topped 400 parts per million for the first time."

:rolleyes:

BBC News - Scientists call for action to tackle CO2 levels
 

blackpup

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Ahh I wasn't sure if you were fed up with 'Global Warming' threads ...... :p

From the story you posted ... "In addition, the sediment comes from a window of time during the Pliocene Epoch, when greenhouse gas levels were only slightly higher than they are today"

To this story .....

"Scientists are calling on world leaders to take action on climate change after carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere broke through a symbolic threshold.

Daily CO2 readings at a US government agency lab on Hawaii have topped 400 parts per million for the first time."

:rolleyes:

BBC News - Scientists call for action to tackle CO2 levels

Green house gases at higher level 3.6 million years ago? No Humans around then? Why blame humans exclusively now, for raising the global level of green house gases?

jimmy
 

layoutshooter

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400PPM is still lower than that last warming period. It is a CYCLE. IF you could go back 100 million years or so, which is about how long our global map has looked much like it does today, you would see many such cycles. "G" time is the key. Not ALGORE'S rants and leftist junk science.

Guess what? When THIS particular warming trend ends on it's own, and it will, it will get really cold again. It are how it are and it ain't gonna change.
 

EnglishLady

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Green house gases at higher level 3.6 million years ago? No Humans around then? Why blame humans exclusively now, for raising the global level of green house gases?

jimmy

I believe, in the second story, they are only talking about CO2 not greenhouse gases collectively :)


"Before we started influencing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, over the last million years it went between about 180 and 280 parts per million," he said.
"Now, since the Industrial Revolution and more in the last 50 years, we've taken that level up by more than 40% to a level of 400 and that hasn't been seen on this planet for probably four million years.
 

xiggi

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As in most things follow the money. That will tell you most everything you need to know.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.
 

layoutshooter

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I believe, in the second story, they are only talking about CO2 not greenhouse gases collectively :)


"Before we started influencing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, over the last million years it went between about 180 and 280 parts per million," he said.
"Now, since the Industrial Revolution and more in the last 50 years, we've taken that level up by more than 40% to a level of 400 and that hasn't been seen on this planet for probably four million years.

The fact is that it HAS been seen before, as have FAR LOWER levels. It waxes and wains as everything in nature does. 50 years ain't squat in "G" time. I cannot even imagine how long the time line would be that would show 50 years as an inch. Use 6 BILLION as the line max and let me know how long that line would be.

It's a joke. Man only lives about 70 years and when here he is arrogant enough to think that what he see is it.

ALGORE is a joke. He could care less about the environment, with his huge house full of exotic wood. Jetting around the world telling us not too. It's ONLY about HIS profit and HIS wanting to control us. NOTHING more.
 

blackpup

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Different time period," during the Middle Miocene (the time period approximately 14 to 20 million years ago), carbon dioxide levels were sustained at about 400 parts per million, which is about where we are today," Tripati said.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm More from sciencedaily.com

Earlier time period, still carbon dioxide though.

Like Xiggi said , money talks.

jimmy
 

EnglishLady

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Joe are you saying that Gore is in charge of every agency concerning global warming, and that no individual agency has an independent thought other than his, and that the scientists are fiddling the readings?

:rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

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Joe are you saying that Gore is in charge of every agency concerning global warming, and that no individual agency has an independent thought other than his, and that the scientists are fiddling the readings?

:rolleyes:


Nope, he is just the big mouth fake here. There are other fakes fiddling the readings and faking others all over the place.

We be outta here! Going to burn some diesel and move up near our Monday pick up. MAYBE I can burn enough to get spring started! :eek:
 

LDB

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You should just be ashamed of yourself for even posting this thread. Really? What were you thinking? You know better than this. Global Warming? What kind of thread is that? You know that doesn't exist. You know that now it's Global Climate Change. :p :rolleyes:
 

xiggi

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Joe are you saying that Gore is in charge of every agency concerning global warming, and that no individual agency has an independent thought other than his, and that the scientists are fiddling the readings?

:rolleyes:

Actually there has been a lot of proven instances of them fiddling with readings.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.
 

layoutshooter

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Draw out this timeline and get back to me.

6 billion years, 1 inch equals 50 years. NOW IF the math is right, and it may well be not, the timeline would be 1920 MILES long! One inch of that timeline is what some are saying is overriding EVERY cycle that took place across the other 1920 miles.

SURE IT HAS!

"G" time is the key. We are dealing with cycles that take place over MILLIONS of years.
 

Moot

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Hey Al, I got your global warming right here:

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Minnesota fishing opener, Lake Vermillion, 5/11/2013.
 

layoutshooter

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Snow in Michigan today. A hard freeze warning for the ALL of Michigan tonight. They are calling for a mix of rain/snow tonight here, in Oswego, NY.
 

Monty

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And then there is this .....


[h=1]2012, the hottest year in U.S. history, was one of the coldest years this century globally[/h]
Again: all of this in one of the coldest years this century. By the time we get to 2100, the odds are good that 2012 will be considered to have been unusually cold. Be sure to tell your great-great-grandkids all about what life was like in the old, frigid days of what we once called the United States’ hottest year ever.

2012, the hottest year in U.S. history, was one of the coldest years this century globally | Grist

Conflicting, isn't it?
 
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