Global spam e-mail levels suddenly fall

EnglishLady

Veteran Expediter
BBC news Jan 6

The amount of junk e-mail being sent across the globe has seen a dramatic fall in recent months.

The volume of spam has dropped steadily since August, but the Christmas period saw a precipitous decline.

One security firm detected around 200 billion spam messages being sent each day in August, but just 50 billion in December.

While the reasons for the decline are not fully understood, spam watchers warn the lull may not last.

Around the Christmas holidays, three of the largest spam producers curtailed their activity, Paul Wood, a senior analyst at Symantec Hosted Services told BBC News.

"But it's hard to say why," he added.

Inactive botnets

The vast majority of spam is sent by networks of infected computers known as botnets.

One of these botnets, known as Rustock, was at its peak responsible for between 47% to 48% of all spam sent globally, said Mr Wood.

In December, Rustock was responsible for just 0.5% of global spam, he said.

At the same time, two other prominent spamming botnets, Lethic and Xarvester, also went quiet.

There have been huge drops in spam levels before, said Mr Wood.

"Usually they have been associated with the botnets being disrupted. As far as we can tell Rustock is still intact," he added.

That means those controlling Rustock could have continued churning out masses of spam, but for whatever reason, have chosen not to.

Chasing profit

One possible explanation is that the spammers are simply regrouping ahead of a new campaign.

Spammers are driven entirely by profit, said Carl Leonard, a researcher at security firm Websense.

"So if a campaign is not getting the returns they want, they can stop, regroup and try something else," he said.

Anti-spam campaigns have enjoyed recent success in making life difficult for spammers, said Mr Wood.

In late September 2010, a collective known as Spamit announced it was closing because of "numerous negative events" and increased attention.

That has certainly contributed to the current decline in spam volumes, said Vincent Hanna, an investigator at anti-spam group Spamhaus.

"This was a significant operation, with assets all over the world. It's decision to stop operating - or at least lay low for a while - has made it more difficult for [other] spammers," he said.

That helps explain the longer-term drop, but the reason for the reduction in December in not yet understood, he added.

There have, however, been signs that spammers are turning to alternative methods to e-mail for distributing their messages - such as Facebook and Twitter, said Mr Leonard.

In December, Twitter accounts were hijacked to distribute diet pill spam after a list of possible passwords was published online.

Even so, it is still too early to say the current lull in activity will last, said Mr Leonard.

"For years there have been predictions that e-mail spam is set to decline," said Mr Leonard. "But for as long the spammers can generate profit from their activities, it's not going away."

Mr Wood said new spammers usually pop up to replace inactive ones.

"We've yet to see any evidence that spam has become a bad business to be in," he added.
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
There is a guy in Calif. who got so sick of spam he went to law school and his law practice is suing spammers. He's making a living doing just that. Personally I think anyone intentionally sending more than a million spam should just be found and put a 22 behind their ear.
 

xiggi

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There is a guy in Calif. who got so sick of spam he went to law school and his law practice is suing spammers. He's making a living doing just that. Personally I think anyone intentionally sending more than a million spam should just be found and put a 22 behind their ear.

Do you really believe some of the things you say? :eek:
 

LDB

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Do you have a better use for someone who knowingly abuses millions of people and knowingly cheats and swindles thousands of people (their own stupidity, greed and gullibility aside)?
 

Dreamer

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Um. Leo? LoL. Easy hoss! Just because someone is a spammer, does not mean they cheat people. Lots of legit businesses pay people to send junk mail!



Dale


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RLENT

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Um. Leo? LoL. Easy hoss!
LoL ?

Easy hoss ?


That's the official EO response to an EO moderator who uses EO to publicly advocate apparent vigilante violence and extra-judicial assassinations ..... of spammers ? :eek:

It seems to me that this thread has gone about as far as it can go and degenerated about as much as it should ...... perhaps someone could do the right thing and just close/lock/delete it .... and issue an admonition that any further discussion of the murder of spammers is over for this or any other thread which seeks to advocate such illegal acts.

..... that is unless and until a forum admin thinks that we ought to resurrect it. :rolleyes:

Thanks.
 
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Dreamer

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Gee RLENT, you couldnt let me try to diffuse it with humor could ya... how bout you let me handle "official responses" behind the scenes ok?


Dale

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LDB

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Retired Expediter
Legit businesses for the most part don't randomly spam millions at a time with something meant to illegally swindle and cheat them out of as much of their money/savings as possible. Legit businesses for the most part only send their stuff to those who have opted in in one form or another. Legit businesses for the most part are offering legit products and services and providing equal value in return for what they are paid. Legit business email isn't really spam.

The ones who have swindled people out of their life savings so the victims are now eating crunchy Kennel Ration or have lost their homes or otherwise ruined by them? Those are the spammers. They are worthless. What use does anyone of value have for them? I'm sorry if my opinions are too harsh for those who are delicate and sensitive. Harsh is what solves problems though.
 

Dreamer

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I would call those scammers, or phishers.


To me spam is just annoying advertisements.


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LDB

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Whatever terms one wants to use, we'll leave those doing legitimate jobs for legitimate businesses out of the picture and only hate the evil ones.
 

RLENT

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I would call those scammers, or phishers.

To me spam is just annoying advertisements.
Wow ....... it's really reassuring to see that at least some portion of the EO powers that be has access to a good, accurate dictionary ..... and actually knows how to use it to learn the definitions of words.

One could only hope that others will similarly follow in your footsteps and the example you have set ;)

Gee RLENT, you couldnt let me try to diffuse it with humor could ya ...
Humor only works with people that actually have some sense or appreciation of it ....

how bout you let me handle "official responses" behind the scenes ok?
Sounds really great ..... in theory ...... perhaps some day we all might observe some outward sign of it actually being effective .... :rolleyes:

And by all means - please do handle matters however you see fit - it's certainly your and the site owners perogative to manage this however you see fit. That doesn't however mean that members won't have an opinion about it tho' ...

While you are about it, you might wanna look into that one recent thread, wherein a moderator really failed to act in a timely manner, do their job and actually moderate the discussion, instead simply shutting the entire discussion down .....

Of course, for real moderation to occur, one has to have individuals who have the necessary skill set to intelligently interject themselves into what is going on and diffuse the situation .... as opposed to just ham-handedly using what amounts to a sledgehammer to apply blunt-force trama to shut off entire discussions, as a means to handle just a few posts which were combative, in poor taste, and likely in violation of the Code of Conduct.

A real moderator might have just deleted the offending posts, issued a warning to those in violation, and allowed the discussion of an ongoing news story to continue. Instead, we, the membership, are now faced with a prohibition forbidding any further mention of the subject in the future. :rolleyes:

Considering that the subject was a matter of news and is an ongoing current event, one is left to consider carefully, actually how "moderate" such an approach seems :rolleyes:

And if you wanna know which posts in particular I'm referring to, drop me a PM and I'll be happy to elaborate ....

BTW, I was going to PM all this to ya .... but, being a fan of transparency, I decided that that would not be appropriate ....

So while you handle the "official" responses behind the scenes, I and the remainder of the membership will handle the "unofficial" responses ..... right out in front.

(The above is provided for the reading enjoyment and is intended as humor only <wink><wink>,<nudge><nudge>)
 
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RLENT

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I'm sorry if my opinions are too harsh for those who are delicate and sensitive. Harsh is what solves problems though ..... we'll leave those doing legitimate jobs for legitimate businesses out of the picture and only hate the evil ones.
"Harsh" is what causes people to think that murder is an acceptable and appropriate solution to a problem caused by people they don't like ....
 
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Moot

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Owner/Operator
Why do all you so hate Spam
and deride it as an electronic scam?

Personally I like that pork
and often eat it with a spork.

Sometimes straight from the can
and almost always in my van.
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
Wow ....... it's really reassuring to see that at least some portion of the EO powers that be has access to a good, accurate dictionary ..... and actually knows how to use it to learn the definitions of words.

One could only hope that others will similarly follow in your footsteps and the example you have set ;)


Humor only works with people that actually have some sense or appreciation of it ....


Sounds really great ..... in theory ...... perhaps some day we all might observe some outward sign of it actually being effective .... :rolleyes:

And by all means - please do handle matters however you see fit - it's certainly your and the site owners perogative to manage this however you see fit. That doesn't however mean that members won't have an opinion about it tho' ...

While you are about it, you might wanna look into that one recent thread, wherein a moderator really failed to act in a timely manner, do their job and actually moderate the discussion, instead simply shutting the entire discussion down .....

Of course, for real moderation to occur, one has to have individuals who have the necessary skill set to intelligently interject themselves into what is going on and diffuse the situation .... as opposed to just ham-handedly using what amounts to a sledgehammer to apply blunt-force trama to shut off entire discussions, as a means to handle just a few posts which were combative, in poor taste, and likely in violation of the Code of Conduct.

A real moderator might have just deleted the offending posts, issued a warning to those in violation, and allowed the discussion of an ongoing news story to continue. Instead, we, the membership, are now faced with a prohibition forbidding any further mention of the subject in the future. :rolleyes:

Considering that the subject was a matter of news and is an ongoing current event, one is left to consider carefully, actually how "moderate" such an approach seems :rolleyes:

And if you wanna know which posts in particular I'm referring to, drop me a PM and I'll be happy to elaborate ....

BTW, I was going to PM all this to ya .... but, being a fan of transparency, I decided that that would not be appropriate ....

So while you handle the "official" responses behind the scenes, I and the remainder of the membership will handle the "unofficial" responses ..... right out in front.

(The above is provided for the reading enjoyment and is intended as humor only <wink><wink>,<nudge><nudge>)


Not when your "unofficial responses" cause more disruption than the original. Leo's opinion of "punishment fitting the crime" is obviously a bit higher than mine. However extreme, his opinions do not violate our Code of Conduct. However, your continued disruptive posts, and personal attacks do.

Since you insist on bringing it up, Leo was right to shut that thread down. It was way out of hand.

However, another member submitted in private that it could be resurrected without all the insults, and I agreed it would be fine... if he so desired.

But I guess you'd rather call things out in open forum. Fine. I dont agree with every thing my moderators say... but they have a right to their opinions, as do you.

What you do NOT have a right to do is constantly disrupt threads by bringing old discussions back up, and making personal attacks.

Doing so IS a violation, and WILL NOT continue to be tolerated.

Dale



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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
You breathing your own fumes. Lighten up already.
BTW, out of everything that I wrote above, is that what you considered to be the most important and worthy of addressing - the one line of sarcasm of mine that you quoted ?
 

Lawrence

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Staff member
BTW, out of everything that I wrote above, is that what you considered to be the most important and worthy of addressing - the one line of sarcasm of mine that you quoted ?

Sorry, I'm not going to engage you on this. Good day.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
Do you have a better use for someone who knowingly abuses millions of people and knowingly cheats and swindles thousands of people (their own stupidity, greed and gullibility aside)?

Leo let me give you a little education here because I know more about the subject than you would care to know. What you are referring to is not the people sending millions of letters. The kind of spam your talking about is not being sent to masses of people like the original post was about. The post is about the type of people who send offers for Viagra, diet pills, penile growth remidies, some porn and those type of things. They are not scamming people out of life's savings. Those emails like the Nigerian scam your referring to are a completely different crowd and not mailed on the massive numbers the article refers to. The offers the big spammers promote are often legitimate offers but may be overpriced etc. They make their money from large numbers of $39.00 buyers not by attempting to clean out someones bank account.

I have a question what do you do when you get junk mail in your mailbox at your house? Do you go looking for them to shorten their lifespan? It takes 60 seconds of your time to delete a days worth of junk email to get so worked up that you think they deserve to be removed for the earth is just a little loony too be polite.

For full disclosure purposes. In the case we ever meet be sure to bring your judges gavel because once upon a time I used to buy a million email addresses each and every month and mail those people very legitimate offers. That may make some not like me but it was 100% legal and never swindled a soul.
 
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