Getting Disgusting

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Evil seems to be gaining an upper hand. Politicians spout off about restricting rights to control crime, how can you control evil? By continuing to excuse it? There are just a lot of disgusting sub humans out there that do not give a hoot about anything. :mad:




[h=1]Woman set on fire in LA as she sleeps on bench[/h]
LOS ANGELES (AP) — For more than 10 years, the homeless woman slept on the same plastic bus stop bench at a busy intersection in the San Fernando Valley, no matter how cold it was or if it was raining.


The 67-year-old, described by one church volunteer who saw her regularly as the "sweetest lady on the street," was nestled in her regular spot early Thursday when the unthinkable happened: A man came out of a nearby drug store, doused her with a flammable liquid and set her ablaze.


Witness Erickson Ipina called 911, and police arrested Dennis Petillo, 24, a short time later. He was booked for investigation of attempted murder and was held on $500,000 bail. It wasn't immediately known if he had retained an attorney.


"He just poured it all over the old lady," Ipina told reporters at the scene. "Then he threw the match on her and started running."


Police provided no possible motive and released no details on Petillo. The victim's name also was withheld.


LAPD Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese told the Los Angeles Times it was unclear whether Petillo spoke to the woman before he allegedly set her ablaze.


"There was no incident or dispute or clear motivation for this horrific attack. He did not know his victim. It defies explanation," Albanese said. "He is not of sound mind. ... The motive is mental illness."


The attack shocked nearby residents, and later Thursday about a dozen people held vigil around the charred bench, urging motorists to honk their horns in support of homeless rights. One sign placed on the bench read, "Our Prayers to Violet," believed to be the victim's first name.


Tej Deol, 31, who resides at a nearby sober living house, said the woman made the bench her home and often could be found sleeping there after sundown. He said he saw her Christmas Eve, getting ready to eat some soup.


"I told her, 'Merry Christmas and happy New Year,' and she said she was doing good," Deol said. "She was so kind. She was happy to have someone talk to her."


Thursday's incident was at least the third in Los Angeles County since October where people were set on fire.


Last week, a 55-year-old man was seriously injured when he was torched as he slept outside a doughnut shop in Norwalk. Two months earlier, Long Beach police said Jacob Timothy Lagarde, 27, threw a lit Molotov cocktail at a man who had been waiting for his father outside a store. Lagarde has since been charged with attempted murder and five other counts.


Los Angeles police are investigating whether Petillo might be tied to any other similar crimes, but at this point detectives don't believe he is, Cmdr. Andrew Smith said.


As the number of flowers and candles around the scorched bench grew Thursday, people who knew the victim tried to comprehend why a woman who seemed so benign could be so viciously attacked.


Robert Wyneken, 75, who volunteers at a nearby church that serves meals for the less than fortunate, called Violet the "sweetest lady on the street." He said she was quiet, independent and resourceful.


Wyneken said she supported herself by recycling cans and didn't like to panhandle. He said there were efforts to get her housing and in contact with family, but she wouldn't have it.


"I just think she had something in her life where she wanted to be alone," he said. "She didn't want to be a burden to anybody."


Wyneken, Deol and others said they were deeply troubled by what had happened at the bus stop.


"The guy who did this should spend the rest of his life in jail," Deol said.


Steve Williams, 62, who identified himself as a homeless veteran, said he is aware of the dangers of sleeping on the street but that it's difficult to find space at nearby shelters, especially at this time of year.


"We are all human. No one should be treated like that," he said.









Woman set on fire in LA as she sleeps on bench - Yahoo! News
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Attacks against homeless people rarely get attention, but nationally, violence against people who are unsheltered is becoming so common that the National Coalition for the Homeless is asking Congress to consider ''homeless people'' as a maligned minority, or protected class, in drafting any new legislation against hate crimes.

''There have always been isolated instances of homeless people being set on fire,'' said Michael Stoops, a community organizer for the National Coalition. ''But what we're seeing now is a trend. And what's most disturbing is that the likely suspects continue to be young people.''

Read the rest of it here. It's a story from 1999.
Violence Is Becoming a Threat for Homeless - NYTimes.com

In 1999, the National Coalition for the Homeless began documenting these violent hate crimes against the homeless, and have issued annual reports. Here's an update from 2009, ten years after the NY Times story.
"Kicked, Set on fire, Beaten to Death": Shocking Rise of Violence Against America's Homeless | Alternet
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
If convicted of the crime with absolute irrefutable proof perhaps Petillo should be doused and set on fire and then released to go rather than being sentenced to life without parole.
 

Jumbuck

Seasoned Expediter
If convicted of the crime with absolute irrefutable proof perhaps Petillo should be doused and set on fire and then released to go rather than being sentenced to life without parole.

Absolutley! I'll bet if he was that would cut down on that kind of bull crap real fast! What kind of animal would do something that horrible to a person? This kind of crap has GOT to stop.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
This kind of crap does have to stop. More laws, more restrictions on rights will NOT stop what is going on. There is one very cold, hard, glaring fact in all of the horrors that are taking place. They are all already illegal. Those laws did not stop them, neither will another.
 

Jumbuck

Seasoned Expediter
Can you just imagine what that poor, innocent, lady went through before she finally accepted the mercy of death. I don't care if that piece of crap that did that to her was insane or not! I don't care if his Dad molested him on a daily basis...I don't care if his Mother molested him...I don't care if his girlfriend left him for another WOMAN. None of that matters! What matters is that he had NO right or excuse to do something that horrible to a living human being. If he is THAT effed up, he needs to be executed before he can do something like that again. You would do no less to a snarling, rabid dog who is about to tear you or one of your loved ones throat out! IMHO
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I saw just such a death on the net recently. It took the poor ******* a lot longer to die than you would think, our pray for. I don't know how many of you played organized baseball, but if you did for long, chances are you either got a hot foot, gave one, or saw someone else get one. I only got one, thank God. The pain is white-hot intense, but only for a few seconds and then it drops off quickly. And that's only your FOOT. To multiply that all over one's surface area, lasting until the nerve endings are destroyed...hard to even imagine.
 

Pilgrim

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
This all relates to the nation's mentally ill adults being turned loose on the streets, while the mentally ill children are pampered, indulged or drugged as their parents shelter themselves in denial because mental illness is considered to be a social disgrace instead of a sickness. How ironic that a disease like AIDS is taken up as a fashionable worldwide cause while various mental illnesses are just ignored. An excellent letter to the WSJ last week addresses this very subject.

How the Mentally Ill Were Released Into U.S. Streets

In response to your Dec. 26 editorial "Hard Newtown Questions":
Your stating the need to address the issue of the severely mentally ill is a view I have espoused for 30 years as a columnist in my regional magazines.

I point to the fringe pop psychiatry experiments by British doctor R.D. Laing in 1950s and '60s that deified schizophrenics for their alleged mystical harmony with the universe. Laing switched roles between doctor and patient to make his point, inspiring author Ken Kesey to write "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest," his fictional homage to Laing. Kesey's hero is the schizophrenic R.P. McMurphy, and the enemy is Nurse Ratchid, who represents the square world of sane people.
The film of Kesey's book was a key element in selling the manifesto that the confinement of the mentally ill was a violation of their constitutional rights, adding propulsion to the movement to release the seriously mentally ill onto the streets of America. Their release was accompanied by the simultaneous eradication of loitering and vagrancy laws—and complicity by the media, which characterized the phenomenon as the failure of capitalism. The real truth eventually emerged but was minimally communicated to the public.

As you point out in your editorial, after each massacre there is a call for swift justice followed by a shrill cry to ban guns, leaving the real problem of handling the mentally ill on the sidelines. I think this is due to the accumulation of identity-rights propaganda for the insane that causes the mass media to avoid pointing the finger for fear of violating the politically correct code that now impedes our public dialogue. With nowhere else to turn to display the proper outrage, the news industry goes back to gun control.

Though I am not a gun fanatic, I feel the ridicule of the NRA for suggesting armed guards be posted at schools is unfair. Children are familiar with security—airports, the mall, public buildings—yet they are left exposed where they spend nearly every day, their schools. Many public schools already have police or security guards for other reasons, so why not to protect the lives of the students?

Bernie Reeves
Editor and Publisher
Raleigh Metro Magazine
Raleigh, N.C.

Letters - WSJ.com
 
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