Germany just didn't get it until now

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Merkel says German Multi-culture society has failed


BERLIN (AFP) – Germany's attempts to create a multi-cultural society in which people from various cultural backgrounds live together peacefully have failed, Chancellor Angela Merkel has said.


"Multikulti", the concept that "we are now living side by side and are happy about it," does not work, Merkel told a meeting of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party at Potsdam near Berlin.


"This approach has failed, totally," she said in Saturday's speech.


Merkel spoke a week after talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in which they pledged to do more to improve the often poor integration record of Germany's 2.5-million-strong Turkish community.


Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, CSU, told the same party meeting Friday that the two Union parties were "committed to a dominant German culture and opposed to a multicultural one.


"'Multikulti' is dead," he said.


While warning against "immigration that weighs down on our social system", Merkel said that Germany needed specialists from overseas to keep the pace of its economic development.


According to the head of the German chamber of commerce and industry, Hans Heinrich Driftmann, Germany is in urgent need of about 400,000 engineers and qualified workers.


"The lack is causing a loss of growth of about one percent," he said in an interview.


Jewish leaders in Germany meanwhile warned that German society and democracy were under threat from extremists.


A recent expert study should prompt the government to act against antidemocratic ideas, the secretary general of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, Stephan Kramer, told the Rheinpfalz am Sonntag weekly.


The study, by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation think tank, showed that more than one third (34.3 percent) of those surveyed believed Germany's 16 million immigrants or people with foreign origins came to the country for the social benefits.
Around the same number (35.6 percent) think Germany is being "over-run by foreigners" and more than one in 10 called for a "Fuehrer" to run the country "with a strong hand".


Thirty-two percent of people said they agreed with the statement: "Foreigners should be sent home when jobs are scarce."


Far-right attitudes are found not only at the extremes of German society, but "to a worrying degree at the centre of society," the report noted.
More than half (58.4 percent) of the 2,411 people polled thought the around four million Muslims in Germany should have their religious practices "significantly curbed."


The integration of Muslims has been a hot button issue since August when a member of Germany's central bank sparked outrage by saying the country was being made "more stupid" by poorly educated and unproductive Muslim migrants with headscarves.


The banker, Thilo Sarrazin, has since resigned but his book on the subject -- "Germany Does Itself In" -- has flown off the shelves, and polls showed considerable sympathy for some of his views.
Kramer also criticised CSU leader Seehofer for ideas which he said were "not only petty but outright irresponsible" and slammed the current immigration debate as "hysterical".
Its really interesting that one of our critics has tried it as forcing people to live together but failed to understand that it hard to make a monolithic society become integrated with immigrants of another society.


The striking similarity here to other EU nations who have been struggling is that they picked on Muslims but failed to mention the other groups who have been also coming to Europe to find refuge.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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Of course it failed..untethered immigration like that...If a person can not add to the over all good of a society then it is just a drain on the ones that do...Look at we have done to ourselves with Illegals....making them all legal will not solve many problems..if any....
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Of course it failed..untethered immigration like that...If a person can not add to the over all good of a society then it is just a drain on the ones that do...Look at we have done to ourselves with Illegals....making them all legal will not solve many problems..if any....

It didn't fail because of the untethered immigration. Their immigration laws are a lot tougher than they lead to believe.

It failed because the European experience is such that they have build pretty much monolithic societies within their borders and MUCH of the immigration that has happened, has happened when borders shifted during and after wars. French became Germans and then Germans became Italians. A lot of the immigration within the 20th century from outside of these countries have come from their former colonies which in itself is a problem due to the need to shape those colonies to their standards in the past.

BUT with that said, we need to reexamine our immigration policies and only allow those who will provide a positive addition to our country into the country. This means we should look at Australia and New Zealand for a better immigration system, maybe they have it together by limiting unskilled labor into the country and even limiting professionals to protect their own.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
It didn't fail because of the untethered immigration. Their immigration laws are a lot tougher than they lead to believe.

It failed because the European experience is such that they have build pretty much monolithic societies within their borders and MUCH of the immigration that has happened, has happened when borders shifted during and after wars. French became Germans and then Germans became Italians. A lot of the immigration within the 20th century from outside of these countries have come from their former colonies which in itself is a problem due to the need to shape those colonies to their standards in the past.

BUT with that said, we need to reexamine our immigration policies and only allow those who will provide a positive addition to our country into the country. This means we should look at Australia and New Zealand for a better immigration system, maybe they have it together by limiting unskilled labor into the country and even limiting professionals to protect their own.

My goodness you mean the US has almost wide open policy for immigration?...Juju almost did not qualify for Canada if it weren't for NAFTA...a managers exemption for 5 years...
 
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