Fox no longer a news organization

Turtle

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It's pretty funny, especially if it was done intentionally. But the level of intelligence inside the White House forces me to at least allow the possibility that whoever did that thinks Fox and Fox News are one in the same.
 

cheri1122

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Very few passive aggressive tactics are funny, but that one [if that's what it was] certainly qualifies.
 

Turtle

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"Pettiness" is a judgement made without justification. It's a conclusion based solely on a belief with no evidence whatsoever to back it up. There is no evidence anywhere that indicates it was done on purpose. The link supplied with your judgement does nothing to support your conclusion. The only thing the linked story and video shows is the obvious notion that people are consuming the bias they are seeking, and that many bloggers are shocked that Obama can recognize and articulate the obvious.
 

muttly

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Sure they were being petty.
They were invited to a luncheon and then insulted. All the other 'news' organizations' representatives had the proper names on their tables.

From article:
'I sat next to Brian Williams and we all had these place cards and his said, ‘Brian Williams, NBC News.’ And across from me was David Muir — the new guy on ABC — it said ‘David Muir, ABC News.’ And I looked at mine and it doesn’t say anything about news. It just says ‘Fox.’ And I looked at Bret Baier’s and it said, ‘Bret Baier, Fox.’ And all the rest of them said news,” Mr. Smith said, '

These organizations all contain biases. They were being small, and narrow minded to single out one.
The link I provided was to illustrate that Obama knows that they ALL have biases,yet found it necessary at a luncheon to single out just ONE. The only one that doesn't regularly carry his water for him. Just pettiness.
 
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Turtle

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Petty implies that it was done intentionally, but you have no evidence that it was. I've already given one plausible explanation of how it could have happened. But now you've taken the same complete lack of evidence and taken it one step further by claiming Obama himself was the one who was directly hands-on responsible for the place cards. That's impressive, right there.

They way you are using the term petty (showing or caused by a meanness of spirit) is in and of itself rather petty in the same sense, as you have no evidence to back up the conclusion. The same article concedes "it might all be an innocent mistake," and that it "isn't clear" whether the luncheon incident was an "attack on Fox News' legitimacy." Yet you blow all that off and go right to, "Sure they were being petty" as if it's a stone-cold fact.

It doesn't matter how hard you believe in it, it's still a belief not supported by evidence.
 

RLENT

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LOL ... The Barf Comedy Hour continues apace ...

Full steam ahead there Bevis ...

You're given' anyone who's paying' attention a real education in frothy, rabid ideological extremism ...
 

muttly

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Riiiight. I'm not buying your explanation . The other news organizations had correct names on their tables. The only one that didn't have the correct name were the Fox News representatives. The same one in 2009 was criticized for not being a news organization. It's his administration. It's the culture he allows.The story is out there in the public. His minions monitor Fox News. A public apology is necessary. And if they want to go with the story that it was just an 'oversight', by all means, but it will be bs.
 

muttly

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LOL ... The Barf Comedy Hour continues apace ...

Full steam ahead there Bevis ...

You're given' anyone who's paying' attention a real education in frothy, rabid ideological extremism ...

Because I mentioned that they were being petty? You are talking out of your rump orifice again I see.
 

Ragman

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I just thought it was funny.

I didn't mean to start another thread war.
 

Turtle

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Riiiight. I'm not buying your explanation .
Of course you're not buying my explanation. You're not buying any explanation other than the one that feeds your, what was it?... oh, yeah, rabid ideological extremism.

The other news organizations had correct names on their tables. The only one that didn't have the correct name were the Fox News representatives.
You don't know that, either. All you know about are the place cards that Shepard Smith told you about, for Brian Williams at NBC, and Davis Muir and Scott Pelley at ABC, as well as Shepard Smith and Bret Baier at Fox. Except you don't even know that, because according to Shepard Smith, Scott Pelley's place card said, "And then, over next to the president, was Scott Pelley, and it said, ‘Scott Pelley, ABC News.”

Uhm, Scott Pelley is the news anchor and managing editor for CBS, not ABC.

Could it be a plausible explanation that Shepard Smith simply misspoke and it wasn't an intentional lie, or was it an intentional lie to take a petty shot at a competing news organization and its managing editor? Or, did the White House, I mean Obama, make a mistake on Scott Pelley's place card, too, and they've now got him working at ABC?

he same one in 2009 was criticized for not being a news organization. It's his administration. It's the culture he allows.The story is out there in the public. His minions monitor Fox News. A public apology is necessary. And if they want to go with the story that it was just an 'oversight', by all means, but it will be bs.
So even if they apologize, you've already determined that it will be BS, because what you believe is more important than even the truth? Is that what you are saying? Shepard Smith lied about Scott Pelley's place card. Are you sure he's the horse you want to hitch your cart to?

The whole luncheon is supposed to be off the record. News organizations do not report what goes on there. Well, news organizations other than Fox News and Shepard Smith. But he and Bret are "are good to go with the news part, and I think you know that."

Act like a news organization and people will think you are, and refer to you as, a news organization.
 
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muttly

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Of course you're not buying my explanation. You're not buying any explanation other than the one that feeds your, what was it?... oh, yeah, rabid ideological extremism.
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Getting emotional now aren't you?Have a disagreement and all the labels come out to shut down debate.
The fact I'm not buying the explanation doesn't make me an extremist. Just healthy skepticism about an administration that is on record having their share of battles with Fox News.
( see link below)Certainly if Shepherd Smiths's comments are bogus, this would be the perfect opportunity to catch them lying about the White house. They could just go to any of the other news organizations that were at the luncheon for corroboration.
They would just jump at the chance to help if they could.
But here is an article that describes the contempt that this administration has for Fox News. It might enlighten you that this administration can act vindictively towards News Organizations who don't tow the company line.
BTW, Fox News Contributor Ms.Powers is a liberal.
Obama vs. Fox News -- behind the White House strategy to delegitimize a news organization | Fox News
 
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muttly

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Turtle wrote--'Act like a news organization and people will think you are, and refer to you as, a news organization.'
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and MSNBC all have liberal biases. They also have made their share of mistakes in presenting facts, yet they are held to a different standard from the administration and considered news organizations .
There are plenty of examples on the MRC website that illuminate their mistakes and biases.
 

Pilgrim

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Originally Posted by RLENT

LOL ... The Barf Comedy Hour continues apace ...

Full steam ahead there Bevis ...

You're given' anyone who's paying' attention a real education in frothy, rabid ideological extremism ...

Because I mentioned that they were being petty? You are talking out of your rump orifice again I see.
Don't feed the trolls
 

RLENT

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Because I mentioned that they were being petty?
No - because your thought processes are so totally @#$^! that you will resort to any and all manner of logical fallacies to arrive at the desired result ... one which satisfies your ideological needs and desires ...

Thus it becomes an exercise in irrationality ...

Let me repeat that in case you missed it the first time: ... irrationality ...

It's really a hoot to watch ... but it ain't sane ...

You are talking out of your rump orifice again I see.
Dude,

Considering the logically fallacious exercise you just went thru that's a real gut-buster ...

Please ... DO NOT STOP talking/writing/etc.
 

RLENT

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Don't feed the trolls
Some folks can't really afford to engage on the substance and the merits of relevant facts - due to the inherent conflict with the fantasy worldview they've adopted ...

You're one of them.
 
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