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The question was asked:
>Can you bring drivers from Canada to drive in the U.S.A for
>FedEx or any other Expediters compines.
The simple answer is:
NO
A Canadian driver may bring a shipment or shipments from Canada and deliver. He/she may pick up shipments returning to Canada. A Canadian driver cannot haul shipmenst from point to point within the United States.
The carrier does not matter. It is the citizenship of the driver that predicates where they can haul.
An American cannot haul from point to point within Canada.
>Can you bring drivers from Canada to drive in the U.S.A for
>FedEx or any other Expediters compines.
The simple answer is:
NO
A Canadian driver may bring a shipment or shipments from Canada and deliver. He/she may pick up shipments returning to Canada. A Canadian driver cannot haul shipmenst from point to point within the United States.
The carrier does not matter. It is the citizenship of the driver that predicates where they can haul.
An American cannot haul from point to point within Canada.
Joe: I responded to your other post regarding FedEx Custom Critical before seeing this post indicating you already had a D truck.
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>thank you i have a truck and looking for driver please
>direct me thank you
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>direct me thank you
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M A WEBSTER
Expert Expediter
i would check into it further. if the driver can get a work permit to work in the us. he is then working for a US company. and therefor not limited to restricted pick up/deliveries.there are many people living in canada and working in the US.especially around the detroit area. check wiyh INS in Detroit
>i would check into it further. if the driver can get a work
>permit to work in the us. he is then working for a US
>company. and therefor not limited to restricted pick
>up/deliveries.there are many people living in canada and
>working in the US.especially around the detroit area. check
>wiyh INS in Detroit
Truck drivers (even small business owners that require the use of a commercial motor vehicle ) do not qualify for a work permit in most cases. Many people do live on the Canada side and commute to the US side BUT most are either US citizens or do a job that requires a special skill or are a management person designated by their company under NAFTA.
GENERAL RULE OF THUMB
Canadian Driver: may bring shipments to the States and may then pick and go back to Canada. They may not do any work within the United States that is not part of a US/Canada move. As an example; a Canadian driver cannot move a trailer unless it has Canadian freight aboard. The Canadian freight must be in a transborder move.
Otherwise the INS says that the non-resident is doing a job that an American could do.
>permit to work in the us. he is then working for a US
>company. and therefor not limited to restricted pick
>up/deliveries.there are many people living in canada and
>working in the US.especially around the detroit area. check
>wiyh INS in Detroit
Truck drivers (even small business owners that require the use of a commercial motor vehicle ) do not qualify for a work permit in most cases. Many people do live on the Canada side and commute to the US side BUT most are either US citizens or do a job that requires a special skill or are a management person designated by their company under NAFTA.
GENERAL RULE OF THUMB
Canadian Driver: may bring shipments to the States and may then pick and go back to Canada. They may not do any work within the United States that is not part of a US/Canada move. As an example; a Canadian driver cannot move a trailer unless it has Canadian freight aboard. The Canadian freight must be in a transborder move.
Otherwise the INS says that the non-resident is doing a job that an American could do.
rob,i dont think that is actually correct? if it is then i have broken the law doing canada to canada runs b4,also i know many carriers who indeed have teams based out of canada who run ust to usa. maybe it is your specific carrier? or possibly you misunderstood something that was mentioned? either way it would be a good idea for this gentleman to look into it completely
Rob Several years ago I hauled within Canada.I went from Brantford Ontario to Halifax Nova Scotia with shelving for a new Supermarket scheduled to open on a Monday.We picked up on Saturday morning unloaded Sunday night. I was told that an American Driver may make one trip within Canada ,then must go loaded or empty back to the USA. It was a nice trip,especially coming back.We took 2 days and drove to Yarmouth NS,put the truck and us on one of the Ocean Ferries to Portland Maine. It cost about $260 but we saved about 900 miles of driving..
I was told that
>an American Driver may make one trip within Canada ,then
>must go loaded or empty back to the USA. It was a nice
>trip,especially coming back.We took 2 days and drove to
>Yarmouth NS,put the truck and us on one of the Ocean Ferries
>to Portland Maine. It cost about $260 but we saved about 900
>miles of driving..
I don't profess to be an expert in Immigration matters; and I'm certainly not an expert in US Immigration matters.
Let me do some research and I'll see what I can come up with.
As they always say...........
"Leave it with me......"
Have a good week, guys
>an American Driver may make one trip within Canada ,then
>must go loaded or empty back to the USA. It was a nice
>trip,especially coming back.We took 2 days and drove to
>Yarmouth NS,put the truck and us on one of the Ocean Ferries
>to Portland Maine. It cost about $260 but we saved about 900
>miles of driving..
I don't profess to be an expert in Immigration matters; and I'm certainly not an expert in US Immigration matters.
Let me do some research and I'll see what I can come up with.
As they always say...........
"Leave it with me......"
Have a good week, guys
> I was told that
>>an American Driver may make one trip within Canada ,then
>>must go loaded or empty back to the USA.
This didn't take long (when you know where to look.)
Yes, but not from Brantford to Yarmouth NS.
From Brantford to Yarmouth Ontario as long it incedental to the international move and on the on the way back to the USA.
Sorry Rich;
You get audited by the CBSA...you'll get AMPSed to the tune of several thousand dollars.
AMPS is Adminstrative Monetary Penalty System.
The same in the USA, it is as I said; the citizenship of the driver not the citizenship of the vehicle that makes the rule.
Gambler: If you so point to point within Canada, same story.
If you guys want the nitty gritty details, PM me.
By the way, Customs here in Canada requires records be maintained for 7 Years; current year and 6 previous. I hope you are in compliance there as well.
By the way:
Yarmouth Ontario is a small community just off the 401 between Windsor and Toronto if I'm not mistaken.
It was a nice
>>trip,especially coming back.We took 2 days and drove to
>>Yarmouth NS,put the truck and us on one of the Ocean Ferries
>>to Portland Maine. It cost about $260 but we saved about 900
>>miles of driving..
>
>
>I don't profess to be an expert in Immigration matters; and
>I'm certainly not an expert in US Immigration matters.
>Let me do some research and I'll see what I can come up
>with.
>As they always say...........
>"Leave it with me......"
>
>Have a good week, guys
>>an American Driver may make one trip within Canada ,then
>>must go loaded or empty back to the USA.
This didn't take long (when you know where to look.)
Yes, but not from Brantford to Yarmouth NS.
From Brantford to Yarmouth Ontario as long it incedental to the international move and on the on the way back to the USA.
Sorry Rich;
You get audited by the CBSA...you'll get AMPSed to the tune of several thousand dollars.
AMPS is Adminstrative Monetary Penalty System.
The same in the USA, it is as I said; the citizenship of the driver not the citizenship of the vehicle that makes the rule.
Gambler: If you so point to point within Canada, same story.
If you guys want the nitty gritty details, PM me.
By the way, Customs here in Canada requires records be maintained for 7 Years; current year and 6 previous. I hope you are in compliance there as well.
By the way:
Yarmouth Ontario is a small community just off the 401 between Windsor and Toronto if I'm not mistaken.
It was a nice
>>trip,especially coming back.We took 2 days and drove to
>>Yarmouth NS,put the truck and us on one of the Ocean Ferries
>>to Portland Maine. It cost about $260 but we saved about 900
>>miles of driving..
>
>
>I don't profess to be an expert in Immigration matters; and
>I'm certainly not an expert in US Immigration matters.
>Let me do some research and I'll see what I can come up
>with.
>As they always say...........
>"Leave it with me......"
>
>Have a good week, guys
We did leave Canada from Yarmouth Nova Scotia,never heard of Yarmouth Ontario. Now wouldn't it be the responsibility of the carrier who dispatched me on the trip to be aware of the potential penalties??We were stopped at a port of entry scale in New Brunswick and also in Nova Scotia,they checked all of the paperwork and bid us "Good Day Eh".
As I mentioned this trip was several years ago,so maybe things have changed.
As I mentioned this trip was several years ago,so maybe things have changed.
Rich: My example of Yarmouth Ontario was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.
Now, as far as a possible penalty is concerned, that is beyond my sphere of knowlege. I imagine that is something covered by your contract with your carrier.
As far as who is responsible?
Shouldn't the driver be aware whether the load he(she) is accepting is legal or not?
This is likely one of those "fine points" that a Canadian with knowlege of the Customs regulations identifies.
Basically the rule is thus:
Halifax NS is not a direct route back to the USA from Brantford Ontario. That is strictly a domestic haul. You might be able to take something in Canada providing it doesn't divert you from your trip back to the USA.
The scales might not be aware of that rule as it is Federal jurisdiction. This is the type of thing the CBSA audits carriers books to find.
I hope this answers some of your questions in greater detail.
Rob
Now, as far as a possible penalty is concerned, that is beyond my sphere of knowlege. I imagine that is something covered by your contract with your carrier.
As far as who is responsible?
Shouldn't the driver be aware whether the load he(she) is accepting is legal or not?
This is likely one of those "fine points" that a Canadian with knowlege of the Customs regulations identifies.
Basically the rule is thus:
Halifax NS is not a direct route back to the USA from Brantford Ontario. That is strictly a domestic haul. You might be able to take something in Canada providing it doesn't divert you from your trip back to the USA.
The scales might not be aware of that rule as it is Federal jurisdiction. This is the type of thing the CBSA audits carriers books to find.
I hope this answers some of your questions in greater detail.
Rob