Fed Will Pump $600B Into Economy

witness23

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Hopes to drive down rates, stimulate hiring
By John Johnson, Newser Staff
Posted Nov 3, 2010 2:09 PM CDT


link: http://www.newser.com/story/104529/fed-will-pump-600b-into-economy.html

(Newser) – The Federal Reserve is making a bold effort to invigorate the economy by announcing it will buy hundreds of billions more in Treasury bonds. The Fed says it will buy $600 billion of long-term government bonds by the middle of 2011 to further drive down rates on mortgages and other debt. This will be in addition to an expected $250 billion to $300 billion in purchases over the same period from reinvesting proceeds from its mortgage portfolio.

The idea is for cheaper loans to get people to spend more and stimulate hiring, reports the AP. The Fed says it will review whether adjustments are needed depending on how the economy is performing. Some worry the Fed action will do little to boost the economy because interest rates are already historically low. Others fear the bond purchases could drive inflation too high over the long term and unleash speculative buying in assets like stocks.
 
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chefdennis

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No big deal anymore, P&G makes Charmin Toilet Paper every day, and it is better for the same job as what the Fed is printing....:rolleyes:
 

greg334

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Well I can't just blame him, there are a number of fools and idiots in government who got a modern economics degree and always had an agenda.
 

witness23

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Well I can't just blame him, there are a number of fools and idiots in government who got a modern economics degree and always had an agenda.

Yeah.....maybe I've been all wrong about this. How can they justify printing $600B???? I just don't get it.
 

greg334

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Well they can't justify anything at this point and they won't be printing it. It is a number shuffle, like a promissory note in one account that will be paid for from another.

The funny thing while you two were going on about the Keynesian thing, it wasn't hard to imagine first why no one gets the sign in the video but also why everyone thinks Bernacke is doing such a great job. He's supposed to be this 'expert' on the depression but he didn't seem to get the fact that the theories he is using failed the first time around and he is repeating the same thing that was done then. Lowering interest rates to boost exports is like filling the tire 10% of the way from being flat and thinking you can cross the country with it.

I honestly think that the reason we don't see any slide in the economy as people is simply because we have yet to comprehend the enormous influx of money into the system and because of that, we are on a spending spree which may end soon enough. The hope is, at lease from those who actually get what's going on, is the lag that we are experiencing will give us enough time to sort through it and when it does hit us, we will be able to keep things moving a bit.
 

chefdennis

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They aren't talking the whole story here...I spoke with the guy that handles my investments yesterday and while i don't remember the number exactly...they have approx $110 trillion in bonds coming due in the next few months that they will be printing more money to cover.......

found this, as to what my investment guy was talking about. read the whole article, it just gives you all kinds of faith in our gov...

Fed to Buy $600 Billion of Treasurys - WSJ.com

The Fed left open the possibility of doing more if growth and inflation don't perk up in the months ahead. The $75 billion a month in new purchases of Treasury debt come on top of $35 billion a month the Fed is expected to spend to replace mortgage bonds in its portfolio that are being retired.


And this 600 billion is going to be to buy tresuries in mostly in short term stuff, because if interest rates go up past the short term, they would lose money if they were buying longer term garbage...so if you are looking to make a few bucks in the short term, garb some of this short term tresury bonds but stay away from anything longer...but then again, it goes to the faith thing....we will see inflation and higher interest rates going....

Then you have turbo timmy getting ecomonic advise from jon stewart!?!?...... LOL yea right....


Geithner Visited Jon Stewart in April, Though Not for Laughs

By Ian Katz -
Nov 4, 2010 12:00 AM ET
Geithner Visited Jon Stewart in April, Though Not for Laughs - Bloomberg


In the midst of debates on financial regulation and China’s currency in April, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner sat down to discuss the U.S. economy -- with comedian Jon Stewart.

finish at the link above.....
 
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chefdennis

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Then you have this....:rolleyes:

Can you sat Weimer.....:rolleyes:

Presenting The Fed's Balance Sheet Through 2012 - Fed Will Surpass China As Top Holder Of US Debt By The End Of The Month

Submitted by Tyler Durden
11/03/2010 22:14 -0500
Presenting The Fed's Balance Sheet Through 2012 - Fed Will Surpass China As Top Holder Of US Debt By The End Of The Month | zero hedge

As is all too well known by now, starting over the next few days, the Fed will commence purchasing $75 billion in Treasury securities monthly until the end of June, and will buy an additional $35 billion in Treasurys to make up for declining holdings of MBS (due to repurchases). We still believe that as a result of the imminent drop in rates (especially those around the curve belly), as we have claimed for over a month, the feedback loop that will be created will result in a far greater repurchase frequency of MBS securities over the next 8 months, and we would not be surprised if at some point in Q2 2011, the Fed is buying $150 billion in Treasurys monthly. Since nobody will believe this until it is actually confirmed by the H.4.1., we will leave this topic alone for the time being. And after all its will "only" mean a rotation of Fed holdings, a switch in duration, and an impact on the shape of curve. What is certain is that on June 30, the Fed's balance sheet will have $2.68 trillion (or more) in holdings, of which $1.77 trillion will be in Treasurys, compared to the $840 billion today. What is also certain is that the Fed will not be able to stop there. Which is why we have extended the projection period through January 2012. At that point the Fed will hold $2.6 trillion in US Treasuries, or roughly 25% of total US marketable debt at that point. And for those who collect now completely irrelevant statistics, the Fed will surpass China's $868 billion in UST holdings before the end of November. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, .....YouTube - **** Just Got Real

Incidentally, nowhere do we assume that the Fed will have launched QE 3, 4, and so forth, over the next 12 months, even though we now estimate the probability of America becoming an exponentially self-monetizing, Weimar-type case study in hyperinflation at over 50%.
 
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chefdennis

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And more then a few others aren't happy at all....

Backlash against Fed’s $600bn easing

By Alan Beattie in Washington, Kevin Brown in Singapore and Jennifer Hughes in London

Published: November 4 2010 18:43 | Last updated: November 4 2010 18:43

FT.com / Global Economy - Backlash against Fed

The US Federal Reserve’s decision to pump an extra $600bn into the economy has galvanized emerging market central banks into preparing defensive measures and sparked criticism from leading global economies.

The Fed’s initiative, in response to rising concern about the weakness of the US economy, has fuelled fears of a sharp drop in the dollar and a fresh flood of capital inflows into emerging markets.

China, Brazil and Germany on Thursday criticised the Fed’s action a day earlier, and a string of east Asian central banks said they were preparing measures to defend their economies against large capital inflows.

Guido Mantega, the Brazilian finance minister who was the first to warn of a “currency war”, said: “Everybody wants the US economy to recover, but it does no good at all to just throw dollars from a helicopter.”

Mr Mantega added: “You have to combine that with fiscal policy. You have to stimulate consumption.” Germany also expressed concern.

An adviser to the Chinese central bank called unbridled printing of dollars the biggest risk to the global economy and said China should use currency policy and capital controls to cushion itself from external shocks.

“As long as the world exercises no restraint in issuing global currencies such as the dollar – and this is not easy – then the occurrence of another crisis is inevitable, as quite a few wise Westerners lament,” Xia Bin wrote in a newspaper under the Chinese central bank.

Korn Chatikavanij, Thailand’s finance minister, said the Thai central bank had told him it was “in close talks” with regional central banks over measures “to prevent excessive speculation.”

The renewed tension is likely to complicate US efforts to get leaders of the world’s leading economies countries meeting in Seoul next week to press China to sign up to a new accord promising to limit current account balances.

Dan Price, partner at the law firm Sidley Austin and formerly George W. Bush’s White House representative at the G20, said: “The US may find it increasingly difficult to galvanize countries to push China on [renminbi] appreciation when many think the Fed’s quantitative easing policy is itself a major contributor to currency misalignment and imbalances.”

Neither the Federal Reserve nor the US Treasury commented on Thursday. The tension over exchange rates has created fears of a wave of protectionist trade and investment actions in response, a reaction that so far has been markedly absent from the global economy during the recession and recovery.

The World Trade Organisation, in association with other international institutions, released a regular report which said that new restrictions on trade, direct investment and capital flows had remained subdued.

But blocks on trade imposed since 2008, such as “anti-dumping” duties on imports deemed to be unfairly priced, are largely still in place.

The WTO said that the percentage of G20 imports now covered by such restrictions had crept up to 1.8 per cent. Pascal Lamy, director-general, warned on Thursday that tensions over currency could be the issue which finally unleashed a real surge in protectionism.

The Fed’s initiative, however, boosted markets, with equities rising in Europe, London and the US following the lead set in Japan, where the Nikkei 225 Average gained 2.2 per cent – its best day in nearly two months.

“The no-asset-market-left-behind approach is officially endorsed,” said Steven Englander, at Citigroup. “If the intention is that US households and investors buy US assets, there is also little to stop them from buying foreign assets as well.”

Oil hit a six-month peak above $86 a barrel and gold rallied to $1,883.7, just shy of its all-time peak. The euro hit $1.428, its highest since January. Measured against its major trading partners, the dollar has fallen more than 3 per cent this week.

Treasuries, the actual target of the $600bn, endured the most mixed trading. Initially sold in disappointment that the Fed was not buying more, they began to rally as analysts digested the Fed’s plans, which will involve it buying more seven- to 10-year notes than the Treasury will actually sell. Yields on benchmark 10-year Treasuries were down 7.7 basis points at 2.49 per cent.
 

greg334

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This is no where near the Weimar Republic. It is more like Italy in the late 50's and early 60's.
 

chefdennis

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Greg wrote:

This is no where near the Weimar Republic. It is more like Italy in the late 50's and early 60's.

Give it time...they aren't talking today or tomorrow...3-5 yrs out will give you a good indication of just how bad it is going to be....
 

greg334

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But see the problem is that we will never be like the Weimar Republic. I know it is a popular thing to say and under Bush and in the first 6 months of Obama, it would have been a possibility but it isn't any more.

Many think that Weimar Republic finances had only to do with the money supply but there were a lot more things that caused the problem of inflation and the lack of confidence in the government.

If anything we our demise could be closer to the inflation of Turkey if anything, I meant Turkey when I said Italy. BUT we will not achieve the problematic issues that of the Weimar Republic, Hungary, Yugoslavia or Zimbabwe has even reached.
 

witness23

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The funny thing while you two were going on about the Keynesian thing, it wasn't hard to imagine first why no one gets the sign in the video but also why everyone thinks Bernacke is doing such a great job.

I'm sure some may have thought I didn't know what the sign meant, but I'm betting more than a few knew exactly what I was doing. But hey, I am just an Elitist, what do I know.
 

dieseldiva

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I'm sure some may have thought I didn't know what the sign meant, but I'm betting more than a few knew exactly what I was doing. But hey, I am just an Elitist, what do I know.

It has to be one of two things, either you didn't REALLY know what the sign meant or you were intentionally trying to stir crap......would you like to elaborate??
 
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