Father "Punishing" Daughter - Or - Father "Beating" Daughter?

Brisco

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I'm sure many here have seen this already.......


Texas judge's daughter: Violence was regular occurrence - CNN.com


So, what is your opinion, punishment or beating???

My opinion, this was just a good 'ole fashioned spanking, that's all. I recall getting many "spankings" like this in my youth, as well as my brothers and sisters. We all probably deserved these spankings too.......just as this little girl did.

Although, one issue I have is that the girl was 16 at the time. Kind of a little old to be getting a "belt spanking". Punishments should be more in the grounding - extra chores range/type.


But, the Girl getting the "belt spanking" above is still a little snot in her adult life. Here in the article she says this on why she released the video:

The 2004 beating occurred when her father was punishing her for using the Internet "to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time," Hillary Adams wrote on the Internet posting. She said she released the video after being harassed by her father.

"It was the straw that broke the camel's back," she said Thursday. "It wasn't any huge happening or anything." She said she told her father she had the video, "and he didn't seem to think anything of it, and basically dared me to post it."


Now reports are out that this is a vindictive act by the daughter for refusing to grow up and do something with her life.

"Just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to work hard and be her primary source of financial support, if she was going to simply `drop out,' and strive to achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video game store," Adams' statement said. "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it."

Police: No charges to be filed against judge


So....Daddy took away the free $$$$ he's been throwing your way, and he took away the Mercedes he's been paying for all this time cause you refused to "Grow Up", and you decide to do this???

I say it's time to get the belt back out on this spoiled little snot........
 

paullud

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It is a beating because he did it out of anger and was hitting her because she wouldn't listen. If he did this in a calm manner it would be different.

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witness23

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Question for ya. Did you watch the whole video, not just the clip in your article you posted?
 

AMonger

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It is a beating because he did it out of anger and was hitting her because she wouldn't listen. If he did this in a calm manner it would be different.

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Bump.

You know the problem with corrupt and abusive cops? They give the other 5% a bad name.
 

witness23

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But, the Girl getting the "belt spanking" above is still a little snot in her adult life. Here in the article she says this on why she released the video:

Now reports are out that this is a vindictive act by the daughter for refusing to grow up and do something with her life.

I say it's time to get the belt back out on this spoiled little snot........

I guess those beatings worked then. :rolleyes:
 

Brisco

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It is a beating because he did it out of anger and was hitting her because she wouldn't listen. If he did this in a calm manner it would be different.

"Calm Manner"??? Never heard my father saying "Now Son - please allow me to give you your punishment, if you wouldn't mind, OK". No..I was more like this girl jumping all over the place trying to avoid my punishment. Which in turn probably caused my father to swing a few more times, and probably a little harder too cause I was trying to avoid my punishment.

Question for ya. Did you watch the whole video, not just the clip in your article you posted?

Yes, I have seen the whole video on youtube. Wasn't trying to form an opinion from just a "clip". Opinion still stays the same no matter how much I've seen......

Have you seen the whole video?
 

witness23

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Yes, I have seen the whole video on youtube. Wasn't trying to form an opinion from just a "clip". Opinion still stays the same no matter how much I've seen......

Have you seen the whole video?

Yes, pretty disturbing if you ask me.

I'm not against getting a belt to the ol' keister, but what disturbed me was the language he and his wife were using. I'm not going to pass judgement, all I can say is that I as a parent would not have acted in the same way.
 

Monty

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I'm surprised at the responses here.

He beat her. Plain and simple.

That was not a "corporal punishment" ..... yelling, cussing, Mom taking part ..... and apparently this was not the first time.

I am completly in agreement with, "Spare the rod, spoil the child", but no where does it say you are allowed to horse whip them!

The probalem, as I saw it, was not the child's, it was the Fathers. (And I use the term "father" lightly)

What surprised me was the fact he didn't rip her pants off and get his golly's while he was at, it apparently was giving him a great satisfaction as he BEAT her.

No, that was not spanking, nor was it punishment. It was abuse.

As for "calmly", I remember well the several spankings I received as a child.

The transgression was today, the spanking was tomorrow. Mom's word's, (I never knew my Dad), were, "You have punishment coming, but I won't do it today, you have made too mad. But you will be punished."

That wait period was FAR worse than the spanking ... which was actually a willow switch, which I had to go get .. :eek:

And the little red stripes on my legs! OUCH!

In conclusion, this man should be taked to the horse corral, stripped to the waist and lashed with a bullwhip.
 

paullud

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"Calm Manner"??? Never heard my father saying "Now Son - please allow me to give you your punishment, if you wouldn't mind, OK". No..I was more like this girl jumping all over the place trying to avoid my punishment. Which in turn probably caused my father to swing a few more times, and probably a little harder too cause I was trying to avoid my punishment.

My brothers and I got spanked with a wooden spoon as discipline. We were told you will get 3 whacks and needed to lean over the couch, if we played games it added a few more. The difference is that if our mom was mad because of what we had done we got a timeout first, when we got older she told us it was so that she wasn't doing it out of anger. She was under a lot of pressure due to money and divorce. Watch the body language of that guy, his fists are clenched, he is standing over her while threatening her, and he was swinging that belt hard.

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cheri1122

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I'm sure many here have seen this already.......


Texas judge's daughter: Violence was regular occurrence - CNN.com


So, what is your opinion, punishment or beating???

Agree with Paullud: the body language says the man is far too angry to be disciplining, and his actual language says he is hardly a fit example of parenthood, let alone fit to pass judgement on the abilities of others that he is so generously paid to do.
And I agree with NAN: you keep expecting him to demand the removal of her pants, too.

My opinion, this was just a good 'ole fashioned spanking, that's all. I recall getting many "spankings" like this in my youth, as well as my brothers and sisters. We all probably deserved these spankings too.......just as this little girl did.

I can't imagine anyone deserving that kind of treatment. IMO, resorting to violence is an admission that you're not smart enough to teach your children why violence is wrong - you're teaching them hypocrisy instead.

Although, one issue I have is that the girl was 16 at the time. Kind of a little old to be getting a "belt spanking". Punishments should be more in the grounding - extra chores range/type.


But, the Girl getting the "belt spanking" above is still a little snot in her adult life. Here in the article she says this on why she released the video:




Now reports are out that this is a vindictive act by the daughter for refusing to grow up and do something with her life.

"Reports"? That's a press release by the man himself - a self serving statement if I've ever read one. [I've read a few.]



Police: No charges to be filed against judge

Solely because the statute of limitations has run out - had the vid been seen within the 5 year limit, the judge would be charged with assault.

So....Daddy took away the free $$$$ he's been throwing your way, and he took away the Mercedes he's been paying for all this time cause you refused to "Grow Up", and you decide to do this???

Did you miss the part about the young lady being physically handicapped? :confused:
Mercedes? I don't know why he would provide it, but it's clear he can afford it.

I say it's time to get the belt back out on this spoiled little snot........

I say having children doesn't make anyone fit to be a parent, but it's all the effort many put into it: do as your parents did, [as their parents did] ad infinitum.:(
 

paullud

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I just showed my wife the video and when I just listened to it I noticed something I missed the first time. The guy says things like "beat into submission" and uses the word beat a few other times to describe what he is doing. That being said I guess he can say run a "Tough on crime" campaign or "You have seen what I did to my daughter wait until I deal with a robber".

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asjssl

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She is handicapped also.. they brought up a point on the radio....sexual overtones to it also...he enjoyed it....

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RLENT

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Dear County Jr.,

Thank you for providing this evening's entertainment (and no, I'm not talking about the video - I had already watched it about 24 - 36 hours ago)

My opinion, this was just a good 'ole fashioned spanking, that's all. I recall getting many "spankings" like this in my youth, as well as my brothers and sisters.
My opinion:

A. The above admission may explain quite a alot .... :rolleyes:

B. You and your siblings (if they feel similar to you) should seriously consider voluntary abstention from reproduction and child rearing, so as to avoid contamination of such warped thinking to the remainder of the human species ....

We all probably deserved these spankings too ....... just as this little girl did.
Based on the data available (which is incomplete at best, scant at worst), there is no way this girl "deserved" the sadistic dramatizations of a clearly unbalanced individual who is incapable of controlling himself.

And this 'tard is a judge y'all elected down there .... seriously ?

Although, one issue I have is that the girl was 16 at the time. Kind of a little old to be getting a "belt spanking".
Ya think ?

You say that ..... and then turn right around 180 degrees at the end of your post and suggest that is exactly what she needs some more of .... un-frickin-believable ....

Punishments should be more in the grounding - extra chores range/type.
Well Dood ... there may be hope for you afterall ..... but we'll see how it goes the rest of the way through your post, before making a determination.

But, the Girl getting the "belt spanking" above is still a little snot in her adult life. Here in the article she says this on why she released the video:
Thank you for displaying your critical thinking skills with the above comment for us all to admire.

I'm sure you have no doubt considered much other info that we and the media are all unaware of, and have resolved any lingering questions. Here's a few that come to my mind just off the top of my head - please enlighten us all with what you know of these matters:

What did the recent harassment that she alleges was directed at herself by her father actually consist of ?

Is there any merit to her allegations ?

Any corroboration of it from third parties ?

Do you think that there might be anything "Daddy" is trying to conceal when he threatened to put the fix in to get custody from the mother of her younger sister ? (10 years old ?)

About Mom's little comment about Dad's "addiction" which she did not elaborate on ..... I wonder what that is all about - can you shed any light ?

Now reports are out that this is a vindictive act by the daughter for refusing to grow up and do something with her life.
As pointed out by cheri: it was a press release statement by "Dear Old Dad" - who is now being forced to cover his tracks for this and other similar behavior ..... and Lord-knows-what-else .....

As for Pop's perspective on what this is all about - it's totally clear from his following statements:

"I really don't want to get into this right now because as you can see my life's been made very difficult over this child."

Adams continued: "In my mind I have not done anything wrong ...... I did lose my temper ..... It looks worse than it is."

So there ya have it: It's all about him ..... he is the victim. I'm fairly certain that if given the opportunity, he'd be quite happy to expound on how she made him do it ......

And no you honor .... it looks exactly as bad as it actually is.

I'll betcha it would make real interesting reading to see how this cretin has ruled in any family court/child services cases he's presided over. Unfortunately, we'll probably never know - as they are likely sealed.

County,

For your complete and uncritical willingness to suck up the pathetic excuses of a grown uhhh .... man <spit> ... who physically beat down his nearly adult daughter, I am now at this point happy to announce that you are in the running for this week's EO Soapbox Tool of the Week Award™

The competition is tough - but the good news is that it's a very limited field at this point .... with less than 48 hours remaining until the competition closes and the judges enter sequestration at an undisclosed Motel 6 near Florence, KY, anything can happen. (BTW, we'll be removing their belts before we lock and tuck them in for the night ... just to ensure that nothing untoward occurs during the balloting)

So....Daddy took away the free $$$$ he's been throwing your way, and he took away the Mercedes he's been paying for all this time cause you refused to "Grow Up", and you decide to do this???
Uh-huh ....... lessee here ....

The daughter has Ataxic Cerebral Palsy and is physically disabled .....

Gee ....... I wonder what that's all about:

Ataxic Cerebral Palsy:
Low muscle tone and poor coordination of movements is described as ataxic cerebral palsy. Children with ataxic cerebral palsy look very unsteady and shaky. This rare form of cerebral palsy affects the sense of balance and depth perception. Affected persons often have poor coordination and walk unsteadily with a wide based gait, placing their feet unusually far apart. They have a lot of shakiness, like a tremor you might have seen in a very old person, especially when they are trying to handle or hold a small object such as a pen. Because of the shaky movements and problems coordinating their muscles, children with ataxic cerebral palsy may take longer than other children to complete certain tasks such as writing a sentence. This form affects about 5-10 percent of the children diagnosed with cerebral palsy.

Certainly, if the minor stuff above is all she has to overcome and deal with on a daily basis, she undoubtedly must be a complete lazy deadbeat mooch ... who, for the sake of mere vanity, is just unwilling to subject herself to the minor occasional ridicule and perhaps constant embarrassment she might suffer while trying to function and fit into mainstream society ....

I mean, afterall, it's completely clear she has a supportive and nurturing father ..... who is there to ..... beat her down ..... errr ... I mean help .... her every step of the way ...

How dare she consider just working part-time at a video store ..... she ought to aspire to a higher calling - so that Daddy might be relieved of the utterly horrible burden he's having to bear .... of taking responsibility and caring for the disabled child he brought into this world.

Maybe she should be an Olympic athlete .... with a subsequent career in professional sports, earning a six-figure salary ?

Or perhaps a career as a professional business woman .... I'm quite sure that her manual dexterity and that unsteady wide-based gait would really wow them in the corporate boardroom .... :rolleyes:

Gee .... I wonder what causes Cerebral Palsy ? If we go to Cerebral Palsy Brain Injury in Children: Causes, Symptoms & Therapy we find the following:

Q. Why does your child have cerebral palsy?
A. The simplest answer to this question is because your child has brain damage. This leads naturally into the second question (naturally :rolleyes:):

Q. Why does your child have brain damage?

Yeah ..... why indeed ?

Interestingly, Shaken Baby Syndrome is listed as a possible cause .....

I say it's time to get the belt back out on this spoiled little snot........
Well now .....

I'd just have to say that, in light of the above, that's just ..... pure genius :mad:

Aside from the fact that you are advocating the physical beating of a grown, adult 23 year-old woman .... who is likely a US citizen, who has rights .... and has not been found guilty of any crime ..... it may just be that physical violence at an early age is the very thing caused this poor souls current LIFELONG condition .....

What is it with you guys down there in Tejas anyways - is it something in the water .... or do your parents just hit all youse in the head with a large hammer repeatedly at age 2 or something ?

Personally, I think you should seriously consider relocating to Saudi Arabia - it's my understanding they're down with that "beat-'em-at-any-age" thing ..... it sounds like you'd fit right in over there .....
 
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RLENT

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I just showed my wife the video and when I just listened to it I noticed something I missed the first time. The guy says things like "beat into submission" and uses the word beat a few other times to describe what he is doing.
Good eyes/ears - you're getting the picture ;)

The guys a total whackjob - it's all about control, domination, utter submission.

And as asjssl correctly points out it potentially does have sexual overtones to it .... of the most sick and perverted sort ....

One can only wonder what the total history is, that might be there .... :(

That being said I guess he can say run a "Tough on crime" campaign or "You have seen what I did to my daughter wait until I deal with a robber".
Yup .... and some shlums would likely suck it up hook line and sinker ..... probably slide him a donation for the next election.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Glad to know I'm surrounded by junior Freuds here in the soapbox. Please invite him to lay on the couch, so the EOPS (ExpeditersOnline Psychological Society) can get to the root of the matter.

He beat her. He might've gone too far. But what's too far according to the law? According to society? According to the youtube junkies? You people look at one video, and that's enough to condemn. The fact is we know very little about this family. He could very well be a bad father. He could be fed up that he has a daughter with no conscience, and nothing he does seems to matter. But it doesn't matter to the public... nor should it. People love to see in the lives of others... to likely help them to forget how sucky their own lives really are.
 
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