EEOC and Bass Pro

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
The EEOC has filed suit against Bass Pro Shops for alleged discrimination in hiring.

I have worked at both Cabela's and Gander Mountain. Very similar in nature to Bass Pro Shops. There were very few minorities at either store I worked at. Why, few applied. Most of the few that did apply did not meet hiring standards at either chain.

I have talked with Bass Pro about working there in the past. Their standards are pretty much the same as the rest of the industry.

I can say that when I was in a position to hire at Gander I hired one "hispanic" man. He was an "expert" in firearms and reloading. I hired him based on his experience. When he came in for the interview he came in a coat and tie. Spoke well, came across as wanting to work for us. Hired him on the spot.

I only had two black men apply. They came in dressed in dirty clothing, dew rags, spoke poorly and gave no indication that they WANTED TO WORK. I did NOT hire them.

Neither Cabela's or Gander hire convicted felons.



Bass Pro Shops Responds to EEOC Allegations


PRINGFIELD, MISSOURI - Bass Pro Shops denied allegations by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) that the company discriminated against African American and Hispanic applicants in its employment practices and that it retaliated against any employees.

"The EEOC's allegations are contrary to our profound respect for and commitment to our team of experienced and knowledgeable associates, and we are determined to prove them wrong," said Mike Rowland, Vice President-Human Resources. Respect for our associates and our customers is central to the mission of our company, and it has been a key contributor to our success.

Issues regarding discrimination and retaliation are taken very seriously by the company. Bass Pro has long been committed to full compliance with laws against employment discrimination and retaliation, and has policies and procedures to assure compliance with those laws. When violations are discovered, as is inevitable in any large organization with thousands of employees, they are promptly and firmly addressed.

Bass Pro said it is extremely disappointed by the EEOC's decision to take action. "The company has cooperated with the EEOC throughout its investigation, providing extensive documentation and numerous witnesses," said Mr. Rowland. Bass Pro vigorously denies the EEOC's allegations that the Company engaged in unlawful document destruction. It is our policy to retain all documents required by law. "We provided more than 250,000 pages of documents to the EEOC," Mr. Rowland said.

"Despite our cooperation, the EEOC made unrealistic demands during conciliation. The EEOC cannot or will not tell us the basis for the analysis they claim to have conducted," he said. "Fundamental fairness and good faith should require that the EEOC reveal the evidence on which its claims are based before filing a lawsuit that will be long, expensive and disruptive."

"This investigation and the EEOC's conduct demonstrate a troubling tendency by the EEOC to stereotype those who love outdoor sports and support conservation as people who unlawfully discriminate or oppose equal opportunity for all," Mr. Rowland said. For example, EEOC staff investigators have suggested on several occasions that because Bass Pro sponsors a NASCAR race team the company is more likely to discriminate against minorities.

In addition, the EEOC staff raised questions about Bass Pro's policy against hiring convicted felons, claiming it discriminates against certain minority groups, even though federal regulations prohibit convicted felons from handling firearms, and Bass Pro sells firearms, ammunition and explosives.

"Bass Pro has long been a significant supporter of numerous youth development and conservation programs that give outdoor opportunities to inner-city diverse youth. As we challenge these unfair and unfounded charges, we want to assure the millions of people from all walks of life who visit our stores annually that Bass Pro will continue to provide the one-of-a-kind experience they have come to expect,'' Mr. Rowland said. "And we will do so while fully complying with the law."

Contact:

Larry Whiteley 417/873-5022 or [email protected]







Bass Pro Shops Responds to EEOC Allegations : The Outdoor Wire
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
EEOC is a hypocritical branch that has way to much power.

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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It would not surprise me if this becomes a trend. This administration has NO USE for those who own guns, hunt, fish or trap. They are opposed to those things. They will abuse their power to either shut down or curtail these types of businesses if given the chance. I hope Bass Pro whoops 'em in court. I kinda think they will.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
The EEOC has filed suit against Bass Pro Shops for alleged discrimination in hiring.

I have worked at both Cabela's and Gander Mountain. Very similar in nature to Bass Pro Shops. There were very few minorities at either store I worked at. Why, few applied. Most of the few that did apply did not meet hiring standards at either chain.

I have talked with Bass Pro about working there in the past. Their standards are pretty much the same as the rest of the industry.

I can say that when I was in a position to hire at Gander I hired one "hispanic" man. He was an "expert" in firearms and reloading. I hired him based on his experience. When he came in for the interview he came in a coat and tie. Spoke well, came across as wanting to work for us. Hired him on the spot.

I only had two black men apply. They came in dressed in dirty clothing, dew rags, spoke poorly and gave no indication that they WANTED TO WORK. I did NOT hire them.

Neither Cabela's or Gander hire convicted felons.



Bass Pro Shops Responds to EEOC Allegations


PRINGFIELD, MISSOURI - Bass Pro Shops denied allegations by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) that the company discriminated against African American and Hispanic applicants in its employment practices and that it retaliated against any employees.

"The EEOC's allegations are contrary to our profound respect for and commitment to our team of experienced and knowledgeable associates, and we are determined to prove them wrong," said Mike Rowland, Vice President-Human Resources. Respect for our associates and our customers is central to the mission of our company, and it has been a key contributor to our success.

Issues regarding discrimination and retaliation are taken very seriously by the company. Bass Pro has long been committed to full compliance with laws against employment discrimination and retaliation, and has policies and procedures to assure compliance with those laws. When violations are discovered, as is inevitable in any large organization with thousands of employees, they are promptly and firmly addressed.

Bass Pro said it is extremely disappointed by the EEOC's decision to take action. "The company has cooperated with the EEOC throughout its investigation, providing extensive documentation and numerous witnesses," said Mr. Rowland. Bass Pro vigorously denies the EEOC's allegations that the Company engaged in unlawful document destruction. It is our policy to retain all documents required by law. "We provided more than 250,000 pages of documents to the EEOC," Mr. Rowland said.

"Despite our cooperation, the EEOC made unrealistic demands during conciliation. The EEOC cannot or will not tell us the basis for the analysis they claim to have conducted," he said. "Fundamental fairness and good faith should require that the EEOC reveal the evidence on which its claims are based before filing a lawsuit that will be long, expensive and disruptive."

"This investigation and the EEOC's conduct demonstrate a troubling tendency by the EEOC to stereotype those who love outdoor sports and support conservation as people who unlawfully discriminate or oppose equal opportunity for all," Mr. Rowland said. For example, EEOC staff investigators have suggested on several occasions that because Bass Pro sponsors a NASCAR race team the company is more likely to discriminate against minorities.

In addition, the EEOC staff raised questions about Bass Pro's policy against hiring convicted felons, claiming it discriminates against certain minority groups, even though federal regulations prohibit convicted felons from handling firearms, and Bass Pro sells firearms, ammunition and explosives.

"Bass Pro has long been a significant supporter of numerous youth development and conservation programs that give outdoor opportunities to inner-city diverse youth. As we challenge these unfair and unfounded charges, we want to assure the millions of people from all walks of life who visit our stores annually that Bass Pro will continue to provide the one-of-a-kind experience they have come to expect,'' Mr. Rowland said. "And we will do so while fully complying with the law."

Contact:

Larry Whiteley 417/873-5022 or [email protected]







Bass Pro Shops Responds to EEOC Allegations : The Outdoor Wire



Now u have done it , thing about blacks and dew rags and dirty clothes and such. The do gooders are on their way with Jesse Jackson and the gang. LOL,,:eek: U do know a good employer to be would have given them a free shower at a truck stop and then taken them for a fitting at ur store for new camis and boots. Just kidding,,,but I think GM is hiring, 15 an hr, no food stamps now, yep no food stamps and no 15,000 dollar car for them either. :rolleyes: I think u know who is on the wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I am SO sorry if the facts offend some people. There is NOTHING I can do about that!

When I hired for my fishing department at the Gander Mountain in Taylor Michigan, I made sure that those I hired KNEW how to fish the Detroit River and did so in a LEGAL manner. That was one of the main things at Gander, Cabela's and Bass Pro. NO HUNTING OR FISHING VIOLATIONS ALLOWED!!

I hired gun people that knew guns. Same with archery. Past retail experience was NOT a main concern. Neither was formal education. I wanted people who "knew their stuff". Gee, I wonder if that is why sales went up 60% in one year at our store?
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I am SO sorry if the facts offend some people. There is NOTHING I can do about that!

When I hired for my fishing department at the Gander Mountain in Taylor Michigan, I made sure that those I hired KNEW how to fish the Detroit River and did so in a LEGAL manner. That was one of the main things at Gander, Cabela's and Bass Pro. NO HUNTING OR FISHING VIOLATIONS ALLOWED!!

I hired gun people that knew guns. Same with archery. Past retail experience was NOT a main concern. Neither was formal education. I wanted people who "knew their stuff". Gee, I wonder if that is why sales went up 60% in one year at our store?

I b on ur side L.Out.
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I'll bet those two black guys new more about fishing with a cane pole than most of us. Probably experts in the use of the right size bobbers or whether to use a bobber when fishing with a cricket or a worm. They could also give advice about fishing from a bridge, even what size straw hat to wear for summer fishing, man I see a heep of sales.:rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I'll bet those two black guys new more about fishing with a cane pole than most of us. Probably experts in the use of the right size bobbers or whether to use a bobber when fishing with a cricket or a worm. They could also give advice about fishing from a bridge, even what size straw hat to wear for summer fishing, man I see a heep of sales.:rolleyes:


Those two had trouble with their names! LOL!!

I'll tell you what. IF I had a store in an area where cane pole fishing was popular I WOULD hire an expert at it. It is only good business. I would not care if that expert was pink with purple polka dots. All I care is that they are neat, clean, hard working and know their "stuff" and could speak "cane pole". That is just good business.
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
And they say regulations do not hurt business.Sue a private company to try and force them to lower their hireing standards.
Really got to love the NASCAR tid bit.:D
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
And they say regulations do not hurt business.Sue a private company to try and force them to lower their hireing standards.
Really got to love the NASCAR tid bit.:D

Yeah, that was a "classic" to say the least. Nothing like "bigots" in the government, eh?
 

Camper

Not a Member
It would not surprise me if this becomes a trend.

This has been a trend since the 60s when this country started down that long slippery road of political correctness.

The only way, this trend will abate is if the whole two party system gets booted.



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Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Layout hit the nail on the head. If you hire for a specialty store, someone who has no experience in that field, you end up with Home Depot.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
well I wonder how you got those applications back in the olden times Layout, were they preprocessed or were they just filled out and handed to you by the guy/gal who filled them out?

I would think that if the EEOC took the case, there is something to it. Seeing that the EEOC refuses to investigate many of the complaints that is submitted and they refer a number of them to states to investigate.

ALSO I would think if Bass Pro is like anyone else now a days, they prescreen their applicants a lot more thoroughly then they ever did by using a computer and software to pick a few.

AND to beat all, this is offensive to me and many others when this twit said the following;

"This investigation and the EEOC's conduct demonstrate a troubling tendency by the EEOC to stereotype those who love outdoor sports and support conservation as people who unlawfully discriminate or oppose equal opportunity for all"

Making it a political issue for no other reason than a lack of coherent defense based on facts. I am not stupid, the EEOC hasn't been targeting bate shops or gun dealers, or RV manufacturers.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
They started it, Greg, when the president downed people who "cling to their Bibles and their guns"; and when the government starts profiling people who follow NASCAR. As far as my opinion goes, that guy is 100% correct.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
But crap T-Hawk, this started a while ago with the EEOC, I don't see it being because of guns or bibles.

In this case, it goes back to 2005, long before Obama. If you read the case file, there is a lot of things that point to the guilt of management not to correct the problems that were being complained about back before Obama took office. From retaliation of employees to destroying of records before the investigation took place.

I can't see this as a politically motivated hate fest of any industry or targeting people who enjoy hunting. Just the opposite, if any of this is found to be true, then pro bass was preventing people from entering any sport by limiting those who interface with customers to be white.

On top of that, the comment made is insulting, it shows the level of maturity of the pro bass people. The HR VP's comments show that there could be some arrogance and guilt that may prove the complaint as valid by deflecting it to a political move on the administrations part.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Long ago Greg? ANYONE can walk into a Gander, Cabela's or Bass Pro and fill out an app. They can be filled out on line or in person.
At the store level they hire right off the street. At Gander it is department managers that do the interviews and, for the most part, the hiring. The store manager has the last say but seldom goes against the department manager's wishes.

Cabela's and Gander has fairly strict appearance codes, beyond the dress codes. At all 3 chains there are written tests that need to be passes for many positions in the store.

EEOC is just ANOTHER government department that needs to have their funding taken away.

A company has every right to hire according to their needs. If those needs include reading, writing, understanding and speaking standard American English, so be it. If those standards say no visible tatoos, no more visible body piercings, OKEE DOKEE. If those standards REQUIRE special skills, like knowing what jig size and color is good on the "River" under what water clarity conditions, even better.

The government cannot set standards. It is NOT their business. Imagine, hiring convicted felons for a store that has guns. How stupid is that?
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
If it's racist not to hire felons, then Jesse needs to get on the horn and tell blacks not to become felons. Not my fault or problem. Also, if blacks don't know fishing tackle or bass boats, that's not my problem. If this is a NASCAR-like store, I can't help that blacks tend to not have interest in it. Not my problem. If I go into a rap studio demanding a job, when I have soft rock experience, it's not the studio manager's problem that I'm unqualified.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
If it's racist not to hire felons, then Jesse needs to get on the horn and tell blacks not to become felons. Not my fault or problem. Also, if blacks don't know fishing tackle or bass boats, that's not my problem. If this is a NASCAR-like store, I can't help that blacks tend to not have interest in it. Not my problem. If I go into a rap studio demanding a job, when I have soft rock experience, it's not the studio manager's problem that I'm unqualified.

It is OKEE DOKEE to discriminate against white people. If they are white males, even better.

The very idea that a person of "color" (for lack of a better term) or a person of other than whatever nationality be required to have the same qualifications as everyone else is frowned upon by our loving government. Stupid people, unqualified people, are "special" and deserve a job that they are not able to handle. If they don't speak English, or dress and look like slobs, even better.

I truly wish that I had the money to start a business where I could hire a LOT of people. I would put tests and standards in, require EVERY employee meet them, hire ONLY those who do, and DARE the government to come after me.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Long ago Greg? ANYONE can walk into a Gander, Cabela's or Bass Pro and fill out an app. They can be filled out on line or in person.

Well that's confirmed the foundation of my point, when they fill out the application online, it doesn't get printed off and reviewed by someone, it usually goes through a piece of software at one location to filter the applications.

At the store level they hire right off the street. At Gander it is department managers that do the interviews and, for the most part, the hiring. The store manager has the last say but seldom goes against the department manager's wishes.

BUT see it is a store chain, they have more than 25 employees and may be a publicly traded company - all of which means they work under different rules and regulations. It isn't the store manager who has the final say so in what his approach can or can't be in hiring people, that is something that is beyond his ability to do and he has a legal limitation that prevents him from discriminating against anyone - including the ones who show up in ripped up jeans and shirts.

Cabela's and Gander has fairly strict appearance codes, beyond the dress codes. At all 3 chains there are written tests that need to be passes for many positions in the store.

Well so?

Their appearance codes can't really be applied in this case, it has nothing to do with that. They can test their knowledge and rightfully so disqualify them from any job but I think the case that the EEOC is pursuing has to do with the applications and the way they are discarded for qualified applicants, not if the person is or is not qualified. You seem to be defending an indefensible position and one that you may not understand completely without going into the actual file that was submitted to the court.

EEOC is just ANOTHER government department that needs to have their funding taken away.

Well I don't have a clue what this has to do with legal action of the EEOC, they seem to be selective in their pursuing of issues and could have made millions for their sponsors in the government by going after everyone.

A company has every right to hire according to their needs. If those needs include reading, writing, understanding and speaking standard American English, so be it. If those standards say no visible tatoos, no more visible body piercings, OKEE DOKEE.

Well ok I agree to a point, if they are a private company not traded in the public, yes they should have the right to do a lot to meet the standards of their business but on the other hand they still have an obligation to work within the laws.

If those standards REQUIRE special skills, like knowing what jig size and color is good on the "River" under what water clarity conditions, even better.

I agree.

The government cannot set standards. It is NOT their business. Imagine, hiring convicted felons for a store that has guns. How stupid is that?

Well they can and do, it is what many don't get. It is their business to ensure that the rules are applied across the board for all and I know this counters what I have been saying but it is their obligation at this point until we tell them otherwise.

In this case, it is not a big deal for me, but for you it is an attack on your sovereign right to hunt and for others who believe the idiot HR VP says is true which no one seems to get the idea that the EEOC doesn't take cases unless there is real evidence or an attempt to screw with an investigation - which I think in this case is both.


By the arrogant comment made by the HR VP, it is a clear indication of what the company's philosophy is so it comes down to whether or not a person wants to support that philosophy, I don't and won't so I refuse to be their customer for any reason and think others should too.
 
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