Drivers Beaten By Security Guards.......

[dieseldiva]

You might want to watch yourself if you ever accept a load out of this place!

Local I-Team: Caught On Camera - Truckers Beaten By Security Guards At Olive Branch Facility

 

[Solar]

Looks like they will be making some big $ soon. That’s assault. Hope they lawyer up.

 

[BigStickJr]

I do not see big money soon.
By his own admission he and the wife may have dropped a few f-bombs aimed towards the guards. That would suggest other acts of disrespect. This chaos is probably perceived as a diversion tactic and as an act of aggression.

The atmosphere at the gates that handle this high security stuff is very serious.
I’ve spent many hours standing near a marine whose job was to focus on me alone with his AK or similar weapon ready to do me harm. Not nearby, or accessible, but ready for action as they consider me a threat until they are comfortable that I am not one.

It’s unfortunate that he may not have understood the position he was in, but following directions and being courteous would have avoided the whole scenario.

He probably is mentally spending his big payday. He risks losing more money trying to profit off of this.
Brush yourself off, shut up and get back to work.

And show respect to security people. If you feel they may be on a power trip or whatever, then it’s even stupider to entice them.

 

[Solar]

I agree following directions and being courteous would have defused the situation, but the point I see in question is, he was at the security gate. Had they entered the grounds, he wouldn’t be able to just leave when he felt like it.

But having not entered the grounds, the desire to leave should not have been prohibited by force. If they had an issue, call the police. Being outside of the secure area, you can’t argue you were defending the secure area. Forced detention and imprisonment of a person is not legal. Walmart Security can not go outside and put their hands on customers who simply pulled into the parking lot, then wanted to leave.

Putting your hands on people is a big no no.
Death of man who struggled with Walmart security ruled a homicide

 

[BigStickJr]

The driver, being aggravated could be quite dangerous if allowed to take control of the vehicle before the search is completed.
If he was up to no good allowing him to move the truck, which in itself is quite a weapon, would be stupid on the guards part.
The guards must gain and keep control.
Also, looks to me he was subdued. Not beaten.

 

[BigStickJr]

Last point. It looks like he was on thier property.
If on foot, let him walk.
That gate looks like no match for that truck.

I hauled stuff for Trump/Pence Security details.
Pretty cool. They have gates/ barriers/weapons that would prevent my truck from getting very far.

BTW. The security HQ: VERY COOL.

 

[BigStickJr]

Many military bases put you in a windowless room so you cannot see the methods used, or the progress of the Inspection.
I once had to have my printer x-rayed to prove it was really a printer.
I also had to remove my blender as the guard thought I shouldn’t have access to the blades.

 

[Solar]

All very valid points, but all hypothetical. He was walking towards his vehicle with intentions of leaving. Right or wrong, the hood was still up, and he was walking with his back turned when security put hands on him.

Military can do that.
Police can do that.
But not security, not outside the gate and especially after expressing a desire to leave.

 

[beachbum]

You do know the driver and his wife were arrested, his court date has been moved to January

 

[beachbum]

Another thing, the driver posted the video and if you look at the videos, at least the ones I’ve seen they are edited. The driver posted them on social media, what isn’t shown is his wife leaving the guard shack and attacking the guards who were trying to subdue her husband. Therefore, the article isn’t true where it says they were both attacked by the guards.

 

[TFTN-one3B]

I do not see big money soon.
By his own admission he and the wife may have dropped a few f-bombs aimed towards the guards. That would suggest other acts of disrespect. This chaos is probably perceived as a diversion tactic and as an act of aggression.

The atmosphere at the gates that handle this high security stuff is very serious.
I’ve spent many hours standing near a marine whose job was to focus on me alone with his AK or similar weapon ready to do me harm. Not nearby, or accessible, but ready for action as they consider me a threat until they are comfortable that I am not one.

It’s unfortunate that he may not have understood the position he was in, but following directions and being courteous would have avoided the whole scenario.

He probably is mentally spending his big payday. He risks losing more money trying to profit off of this.
Brush yourself off, shut up and get back to work.

And show respect to security people. If you feel they may be on a power trip or whatever, then it’s even stupider to entice them.

By law, you can't be physically detained by private security unless you have committed a felony in their presence, or they are defending themselves/others against an attack. That includes property owned by you.

The only thing they can do is ask you to leave, as well as call actual Law Enforcement.

I doesn't matter what they said to the security. They were not justified. The case will be dismissed, and hopefully they will be pursuing civil as well as criminal charges against everyone who took part in that .

Incidents like this makes me respect private security less....not more.

 

[TFTN-one3B]

Incidents like this is why private security isn't allowed to search my van. They are allowed to look inside to make sure no one else is in it, but as far as going though my sleeper or anything I have in there.....it's a no go.

 

[Boatcat]

The driver, being aggravated could be quite dangerous if allowed to take control of the vehicle before the search is completed.
If he was up to no good allowing him to move the truck, which in itself is quite a weapon, would be stupid on the guards part.
The guards must gain and keep control.
Also, looks to me he was subdued. Not beaten.

 

[Boatcat]

I agree .
His behavior was perceived as a threat and he was treated as such.
Keyword is , His Behavior...
Ego and attitude escalated the situation.

Apparently social media is on his side due to only hearing the self serving side of the story and not being aware of all the nuances of the situation.
I hope there is a life lesson in all of this mess.

 

[Moot]

Greetings DD. Long time.

 

[TFTN-one3B]

I agree .
His behavior was perceived as a threat and he was treated as such.
Keyword is , His Behavior...
Ego and attitude escalated the situation.

Apparently social media is on his side due to only hearing the self serving side of the story and not being aware of all the nuances of the situation.
I hope there is a life lesson in all of this mess.

So I can pull my CCW and shoot someone because I perceive them as a threat? Hell, if that was the case.....I'd end up shooting someone once a week.

Perception isn't actionable evidence you can act on. They actually have to be a threat....

Your assessment is incorrect on the situation. The security was in the wrong. If the Police had seen the footage before the arrest, they wouldn't have been arrested. Because they were arrested based off of the story they security nobodies told .

Hopefully a serious lawsuit will ensure against all of them as well as the company.

 

[BigStickJr]

So I can pull my CCW and shoot someone because I perceive them as a threat? Hell, if that was the case.....I'd end up shooting someone once a week.


Sounds like someone that should NOT have a CCW.

 

[bubblehead]

After reviewing the tape, I am going to side with the security guards on this one.
1. You have uncooperative driver.
2. Security did not beat down the driver and wife, they subdued them.
3. If driver made it back to his truck, he poses a much greater threat.
4. Driver and his wife should be thankful that security showed as much restraint as they did.

We have gone to many secured facilities including ones with armed personnel on the roof, armed escorts in the truck with their weapon pointed my direction, and extensive 6+ hours searching the truck. In 11+ years I only refused to load at a location because they were demanding much greater services then they were paying for and wanted us to sign a contract with penalties imposed if any of the conditions were not met. Otherwise; their house, their rules.

Opinions matter and I understand the counter arguments. If I was sitting on the jury on this case, I would not side with the driver.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

If I have the scenario right on this, they refused the load OUTSIDE of the gate; which, to me, is outside of the guards' guarding area (the reason the fences are there in the first place). If the guards can be like cops, and say (in a monotone, robotic, 8-bit voice) "I feared for my life," then a civilian can certainly feel the same way if he's getting pummeled by 6 men who are out of their jurisdiction.