Don't Mess with A Kid's Candy on Halloween

[Turtle]

A 28-year-old Aiken, SC woman jokingly told a 10-year-old trick-or-treater that she was going to steal his candy. He said no - emphatically - and stuck a 9mm handgun in her face to ensure there was no misunderstanding.

The gun wasn't loaded, but the boy did have a clip of ammunition on him. The boy's brother, who is also 10, told officials he also had a gun, and both weapons were recovered by police. Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno says the boys got them from their grandfather without his permission.

Aiken trick-or-treater, 10, pulls gun | The Augusta Chronicle

 

[layoutshooter]

The grandfather should be arrested for child endangerment. A gun owner has a responsibility to insure that children cannot access those guns unless properly supervised.

Those kids parents and circumstances need to be investigated. A 10 your old that would point a gun at someone needs help before it is too late. It may already be to late.

 

[Turtle]

And that's why this was put in The Soapbox.

Remember folks, hunt with your kids, not for them!

 

[layoutshooter]

And that's why this was put in The Soapbox.

Remember folks, hunt with your kids, not for them!

A 9mm has NOTHING to do with hunting. Neither does this article. It has EVERYTHING to do with responsibility and proper parenting. It is about firearms safety.

Hunter safety is a different subject. So is teaching kids to respect firearms. Teaching them to shoot, either or hunting or target, helps with their discipline. As you may well know, the different types of shooting, rifle, pistol etc are even called disciplines.

Spending LOTS of time with GOOD parents, shooting, hunting, knitting, helps a child grow.

 

[Turtle]

I'd shoot up a face palm here, but that's been done to death.

It's a funny story that happened on Halloween where no one got hurt. The boy who pulled the weapon was brought to the police station where he was turned over to the custody of his parents plural, instead arresting the parents and giving the kids to Child Protective Services, and the parents were apparently not arrested. No one overreacted. No one needs to be investigated. The parents will, presumably, deal with the kids. They might even talk to the kids about firearm safety.

 

[layoutshooter]

I'd shoot up a face palm here, but that's been done to death.

It's a funny story that happened on Halloween where no one got hurt. The boy who pulled the weapon was brought to the police station where he was turned over to the custody of his parents plural, instead arresting the parents and giving the kids to Child Protective Services, and the parents were apparently not arrested. No one overreacted. No one needs to be investigated. The parents will, presumably, deal with the kids. They might even talk to the kids about firearm safety.

I see what you are saying but I just don't agree. I don't find this a "funny story". As a firearms owner and former shooting sports instructor I find this story "scary" at best.

I take everything about firearms safety and responsibility VERY seriously. I am NOT suggesting that you don't, my take on this is just different. Maybe because that I believe that the inability to own firearms in a responsible manner is one of the primary weapons that the anti-gun, anti-Constitution people use when spreading their swill.

Any who, sorry I messed up your funny. It was NOT intentional. I just took it in a different light.

 

[witness23]

Let me do the honors.......

 

[EnglishLady]

Actually I don't find this a humourous story either.

VERY scary for the woman and a total lack of responsibility on the part of the adults.





As always IMO

 

[tbubster]

I'd shoot up a face palm here, but that's been done to death.

It's a funny story that happened on Halloween where no one got hurt. The boy who pulled the weapon was brought to the police station where he was turned over to the custody of his parents plural, instead arresting the parents and giving the kids to Child Protective Services, and the parents were apparently not arrested. No one overreacted. No one needs to be investigated. The parents will, presumably, deal with the kids. They might even talk to the kids about firearm safety.

Wrong!!The kid overreacted when he stuck a GUN in the ladys face.Why in the world would a 10 year old stick a gun in someones face.There is a problem at home and it needs to be looked at.Why if children are in a home are guns not locked up.There are guns in my home yet when children are there the guns are never seen.They are locked in the safe.Heck if the guns are not being used or cleaned then they are in the safe.

 

[layoutshooter]

Wrong!!The kid overreacted when he stuck a GUN in the ladys face.Why in the world would a 10 year old stick a gun in someones face.There is a problem at home and it needs to be looked at.Why if children are in a home are guns not locked up.There are guns in my home yet when children are there the guns are never seen.They are locked in the safe.Heck if the guns are not being used or cleaned then they are in the safe.

My guns were ALWAYS locked up when the kids were at home, even though mine were raised shooting. When anyone with kids come over now I lock up the guns.

 

[Turtle]

Wrong!!

Don't yell at me with two exclamation points about me being wrong, especially since everything I said is either 100% correct or is my 100% opinion, neither of which, by definition, can be wrong. Much less wrong with two exclamation points.

Anybody know what the kid was dressed as for Halloween?

The kid overreacted when he stuck a GUN in the ladys face.

How do you know that? The lady knew the kid and the kid knew the lady. For all you know she's been stealing stuff from that kid since before he could walk and Halloween was the day it was gonna finally stop.

Why in the world would a 10 year old stick a gun in someones face.

For any one of the countless reasons anyone else sticks a gun in someone's face. If you want specifics, you'll have to ask the kid, or simply make something up.

There is a problem at home and it needs to be looked at.

Not a single home in America you can't say that about.

Why if children are in a home are guns not locked up.There are guns in my home yet when children are there the guns are never seen.They are locked in the safe.Heck if the guns are not being used or cleaned then they are in the safe.

For all you know the guns were, indeed, locked in a safe, and the kid knew the combination. He's 10 years old, not stupid.

The kid did something he shouldn't have done, the police will investigate the circumstances, yet, miraculously and unbelievably no one got injured. Yet we gotta get outraged over this, anyway. Might as well, you know, since we don't know any of the people involved. Hey! We can make up and assume whatever we want. Yeah, let's do that!

I repeat.... Don't mess with a kid's candy on Halloween. You'd be better off taking a half-eaten Porterhouse away from a pit bull.

And on a related note.....

 

[tbubster]

Don't yell at me with two exclamation points about me being wrong, especially since everything I said is either 100% correct or is my 100% opinion, neither of which, by definition, can be wrong. Much less wrong with two exclamation points.

Anybody know what the kid was dressed as for Halloween?

How do you know that? The lady knew the kid and the kid knew the lady. For all you know she's been stealing stuff from that kid since before he could walk and Halloween was the day it was gonna finally stop.

For any one of the countless reasons anyone else sticks a gun in someone's face. If you want specifics, you'll have to ask the kid, or simply make something up.

Not a single home in America you can't say that about.

For all you know the guns were, indeed, locked in a safe, and the kid knew the combination. He's 10 years old, not stupid.

The kid did something he shouldn't have done, the police will investigate the circumstances, yet, miraculously and unbelievably no one got injured. Yet we gotta get outraged over this, anyway. Might as well, you know, since we don't know any of the people involved. Hey! We can make up and assume whatever we want. Yeah, let's do that!

I repeat.... Don't mess with a kid's candy on Halloween. You'd be better off taking a half-eaten Porterhouse away from a pit bull.

And on a related note.....

If I was yellig at you it would have looked like this WRONG!!!!! not like this Wrong!!

Dont care if the kid is ten and he is smart or not.Why in the heck would he know the combination to the safe where the gun is kept.Better question is why?????????????Also does not matter one bit if he and the lady knew each other or not.

especially since everything I said is either 100% correct or is my 100% opinion, neither of which, by definition, can be wrongWhen a person thinks its a funny story about a ten year old kid pointing a gun in someones face yep thats wrong under both definitions.


Also if the kid is smart enough to take the gun out of a safe after all he is 10 not stupid then he should know its wrong to point it at some one.

Love how on here when some dont feel the same way the start talking about how we should not be outraged.Someone does not agree with you so yo try and label them.By the way im not outraged do I think its sad that a 10 year old pointed a gun at someone yes.Do I think that a 10 year old kid thinking its ok to point a gun at someone points to something being wrong at home yep.He got that thinking from someone.Does it make me sad day for the human race when people think its a funny story when a 10 year old points a gun a someone in a threating manner yes yes I do.

 

[RLENT]

Why in the world would a 10 year old stick a gun in someones face.

<facepalm>

Seriously ?

So .... like .... what did you play with when you were a kid .... Barbie and Ken ?

From probably about age 7 or so on, me and my buddies played "Army" ... or variations on that theme .... almost constantly ....

I can remember, with great clarity, my best friend one day taking me into the inner sanctum of his parents bedroom for the second time (the first time was to see his Dad's collection of Playboy magazines, which was extensive ) and showing me the German 9mm Luger pistol and (disarmed) grenade casing his father had brought back from the war.

I can remember making 2" - 3" "mudballs" on construction sites, letting them bake in the sun until hard .... and then dividing up into teams and having "wars" by throwing them at each other ..

Fast forward 4 or 5 years and we had moved and I had a new set of friends .... and I recall three of us playing in the one guys basement ...... with, I think it was a Crossman BB gun (looked like a .45), shooting targets .... things got a little out of hand .... and one of us ended up getting shot in the foot. A few tears but no lasting damage .....

I could go on and on ..... but the point is kids often do what they do because they are kids .... and lack the experience to know better.

They are, afterall ..... not adults .....

There is a problem at home and it needs to be looked at. Why if children are in a home are guns not locked up.

Thus saith the fan of Thomas Jefferson and limited government .....

 

[moose]

. A gun owner has a responsibility to insure that children cannot access those guns unless properly supervised. .

But they where ,(supervised),
what the media did not let us know,(they never do), are the facts that the gun owner accompany those kids with Batman and SpiderMan, surly we can trust them.
a 7Y/O sheriff was collecting his own praises next door, along side to a firearms specialists CowBoy .
upstairs, IF anything would've go wrong, a 20Y/O nurse(probably in a sexy outfit)was not yet drunk enough.
beside, it is flatout wrong to call police for a gun, with them needing to round up all those drunken zombi's and wondering skeleton's that night.
after all, she did asked 'trick or treat', well i'd say he pulled a dern good trick on her.

 

[jaminjim]

<facepalm>

Really?

Seriously ?

Well pretty much.

So .... like .... what did you play with when you were a kid .... Barbie and Ken ?

Don't know about him but I had the bag of little molded green GI's. (I predate GI Joes, dangit)

From probably about age 7 or so on, me and my buddies played "Army" ... or variations on that theme .... almost constantly ....

Me too, and I never lost a battle let alone a war.

I can remember, with great clarity, my best friend one day taking me into the inner sanctum of his parents bedroom for the second time (the first time was to see his Dad's collection of Playboy magazines, which was extensive ) and showing me the German 9mm Luger pistol and (disarmed) grenade casing his father had brought back from the war.

Dads guns were in the gun cabinet, completely off limits, but the dresser drawer containing some war memorabilia was only kinda off limits.

I can remember making 2" - 3" "mudballs" on construction sites, letting them bake in the sun until hard .... and then dividing up into teams and having "wars" by throwing them at each other ..

What, no walnut tree? My hands stayed green and smelly for weeks in the fall.

Fast forward 4 or 5 years and we had moved and I had a new set of friends .... and I recall three of us playing in the one guys basement ...... with, I think it was a Crossman BB gun (looked like a .45), shooting targets .... things got a little out of hand .... and one of us ended up getting shot in the foot. A few tears but no lasting damage .....

Boys will be boys.

I could go on and on ..... but the point is kids often do what they do because they are kids .... and lack the experience to know better.

They are, afterall ..... not adults .....

Yep, but I knew that if I would have even glanced at the old mans guns without him being present I would still be sporting the lumps and bumps all about my head, neck, and shoulders some fifty years later.

 

[Turtle]

Someone does not agree with you so yo try and label them.

Juuuuust like you did to me.

Does it make me sad day for the human race when people think its a funny story when a 10 year old points a gun a someone in a threating manner yes yes I do.

I think you're funny.

 

[Brisco]

Lady telling kid she was going to take his candy was probably all in fun. I'm bettin' she didn't swing open the door growling at kid with knarly teeth saying "I'M TAKING YOUR CANDY!!" She was probably joking with kid with a big smile on her face teasing him in "Good Times" atmosphere.

Kid pulls gun and here we are.......

My opinion, Kid should be charged with Aggravated Assault, Convicted, and then placed in Penal System 'til his 18th Birthday. Harsh....Nah....Just trying to save someone elses life before the kid hits his 16th-17th-18th Birthday.

 

[JLew90]

There could be a million possibiltys were all on the outside lookin in something we didnt see first hand
But yes 10year olds could crack a safe i have no dought about that my 3 year old nephew could crack a lock (idk never seen him do it but hes so smart) (= nut cpuld a 10 year old pull the trigger on another human? Yes if his/her lifestyle at home is whack but he was trick or treating so he had some what a happy life

 

[Turtle]

My opinion, Kid should be charged with Aggravated Assault, Convicted, and then placed in Penal System 'til his 18th Birthday. Harsh....Nah....Just trying to save someone elses life before the kid hits his 16th-17th-18th Birthday.

Can't charge him with Aggravated Assault unless he threatened or actually caused serious bodily injury. Simple Assault with the intent to murder, rob, kill, or rape, and assault with a dangerous or deadly weapon, becomes Aggravated Assault. The gun wasn't loaded, so it couldn't be Aggravated.

And it was she, not he, who threatened to rob him, so there is that.

Doesn't matter much, tho. In South Carolina, children 11 and 12 can be charged and remanded to Department of Juvenile Justice only with a judge's order, and children 10 and under cannot be charged with anything.


Personally, I think the woman should be charged with attempted robbery, terroristic threatening, and child abuse. You don't mess with a kid's candy on Halloween, and then try and pass it off as a joke. Try standing in line at the airport and joke about having a bomb in your shorts. Same thing. The kid was protecting his property.

 

[chefdennis]

Did anyone ask if the kids each had their Concealed Carry permirts!?!?r is SC a "Open Carry" state and were they "Carrying" openly? One more yr and they could have been charged with "banishing" at a minimum....