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AMonger

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

Yes there is...you..

homophobia [ˌhəʊməʊˈfəʊbɪə]
n
(Psychology) intense hatred or fear of homosexuals or homosexuality
Ok, first, I neither hate nor fear sodomites. I pity them.

Second, homophobia is an invented word. Invented, as opposed to coined, not as a matter of language evolution but invented for political purposes. "Homophobia" is ridiculous on its face, the equivalent of an alcoholic's "I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM! YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM!"
 

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So what exactly is fact in the bible? The earth created in seven days, the whole forming Adam with clay and Eve from his rib, the talking snake, the eating from a tree of knowledge, slaying giants or immaculate conception?
I suggest you look up the definition of the word FACT Amonger...facts are verifiable, proven and not subject to whimsy. You're talking about your faith and wish to legislate with your faith.
I'm sorry my gods, who are older than your god make me happy and not subject to the temptations of your devil. What makes your god, who is the new kid on the block trump my gods...it's not facts. Sorry to burst your bubble, but considering nature is a big part of my religion and I can prove it exists technically my religion is more fact based than yours! Only I'm not arrogant enough to try and convert every person on a different path than mine nor legislate with my religion.


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Not that I agree with you all I can say is Jesus changed my life and if you want more info I will tell you if not thats fine too I dont hold it against you you have that right and I will be praying for you for good not bad. Be that as it may do you remember in the Bible where God used A talking jack azz to get Balem's attention? Amonger proves that could have very well happened. LOL
 

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Ok, first, I neither hate nor fear sodomites. I pity them.

Second, homophobia is an invented word. Invented, as opposed to coined, not as a matter of language evolution but invented for political purposes. "Homophobia" is ridiculous on its face, the equivalent of an alcoholic's "I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM! YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM!"
Oh no..you hate them..its clear..loud and clear..
Pity them...how nice..


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paullud

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It is? What number is that?
Quoting what the Lord says about something isn't judging, anyway.

It is part of the beginning of the Commandments when he says "I am the Lord your God" which means you shouldn't be worried about doing his job since he makes it pretty clear that he has the judgement of anything not listed in The 10 Commandments covered. Condemning things not listed there means you are judging based on your beliefs and interpretations.

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To the best of my understanding, pedophiles seldom have a real preference as to gender of their victims - it's the age that matters.
If they tend to victimize boys more than girls, it's not homosexuality that causes it, but opportunity. Pedophiles are almost overwhelmingly male [just like mass murderers - interesting, eh?] and they find far more opportunities to 'groom' and select victims in organizations where boys are mentored or supervised by adults: Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church, programs for 'troubled youth', sports, etc.
The Catholic Church's requirement for lifelong celibacy has probably created many pedophiles in & of itself, as the priests have no other outlet for their natural desires, and 'just say no' is not an answer, it's a dismissal of a problem they refuse to acknowledge. There are people who take naturally to celibacy, but not many - it's unnatural. If the Pope wants to protect children, he might consider admitting that a priest is a human being with normal human desires, and permitting them to marry takes nothing from their dedication whatsoever.
I expect he'll consider doing so right after he remembers the vow of poverty he once took himself.
:rolleyes:
 

AMonger

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

It is part of the beginning of the Commandments when he says "I am the Lord your God" which means you shouldn't be worried about doing his job since he makes it pretty clear that he has the judgement of anything not listed in The 10 Commandments covered. Condemning things not listed there means you are judging based on your beliefs and interpretations.

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I was going to reply "Nice try" but it doesn't even warrant that. More like "Sad attempt to back and fill."
 

paullud

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I was going to reply "Nice try" but it doesn't even warrant that. More like "Sad attempt to back and fill."

Yes, your right I still haven't figured out the 10 Commandments after 30 years of hearing about them. Did I over explain it? God is God and says so in the 10 Commandments, you are not so stop acting like you are and judging.

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letzrockexpress

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Ok, here is my deal:

The Bible says all sin is equal. It also says there are sins of commission as well as sins of omission (sins we commit without even knowing it). God said vengeance is his. If I am committing sin without even knowing it, and it's all equal, and God has the final word, who the heck are you or me or anyone else to say what somebody should do or not do? Only an incredibly pompous, self righteous, narcissist would dare attempt it.....
 
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AMonger

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Ok, here is my deal:
The Bible says all sin is equal.
It unequivocally does not say that. That is a myth based on a misreading of the verse that says "He that offends in one thing has offended in all." Elsewhere, Christ tells us that all sins are not equal. He says, forex, that he who harms a little child would bear more extreme punishment, and also that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin so much worse than others that it can never be forgiven.
It also says there are sins of commission as well as sins of omission (sins we commit without even knowing it).
No, a sin of omission is a sin committed by not doing something one was morally required to do. I hope you're a good expediter. You need to stick to that; Bible teacher really isn't your thing.
God said vengeance is his. If I am committing sin without even knowing it, and it's all equal, and God has the final word, who the heck are you or me or anyone else to say what somebody should do or not do? Only an incredibly pompous, self righteous, narcissist would dare attempt it.....
Well, your first two premises are false, so your thesis falls flat on its face.
The Bible tells us "Judge righteous judgment," which contradicts the out-of-context "Judge not." The "judge not" passage goes on, contextually, to say that whatever standard of judgment you use will be applied to you. That's the meaning of "judge not."

We have scripture to tell us God's standards, and it certainly isn't "judging" to repeat what it says. In this case, what it says is that committing homosexual perversion is a ****able sin. And it also says that he who repents through Christ will be forgiven.

That's a mirror of the gospel. Gospel means "good news," and the news is good because there's bad news. The bad news is, you're a sinner bound for hell. The good news is, God killed His own Son in your place so you may repent and be saved from those sins. That includes homosexual offenders, who, btw, you do no favors when you shot down those telling them of their need to repent. Rather, you harm them.
 
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letzrockexpress

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It unequivocally does not say that. That is a myth based on a misreading of the verse that says "He that offends in one thing has offended in all." Elsewhere, Christ tells us that all sins are not equal. He says, forex, that he who harms a little child would bear more extreme punishment, and also that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin so much worse than others that it can never be forgiven.
No, a sin of omission is a sin committed by not doing something one was morally required to do. I hope you're a good expediter. You need to stick to that; Bible teacher really isn't your thing.
Well, your first two premises are false, so your thesis falls flat on its face.
The Bible tells us "Judge righteous judgment," which contradicts the out-of-context "Judge not." The "judge not" passage goes on, contextually, to say that whatever standard of judgment you use will be applied to you. That's the meaning of "judge not."

We have scripture to tell us God's standards, and it certainly isn't "judging" to repeat what it says. In this case, what it says is that committing homosexual perversion is a ****able sin. And it also says that he who repents through Christ will be forgiven.

That's a mirror of the gospel. Gospel means "good news," and the news is good because there's bad news. The bad news is, you're a sinner bound for hell. The good news is, God killed His own Son in your place so you may repent and be saved from those sins. That includes homosexual offenders, who, btw, you do no favors when you shot down those telling them of their need to repent. Rather, you harm them.

Bible teacher? Not me. not hardly. You have your interpretation, I have mine. Perhaps you don't know the definiton of omission. Your pomposity and narcissism become less savory with every word you speak...
 

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AMonger

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

Bible teacher? Not me. not hardly. You have your interpretation, I have mine. Perhaps you don't know the definiton of omission. Your pomposity and narcissism become less savory with every word you speak...
Scripture is of no private interpretation.

And yes, I do know what omission means, and in the scriptural sense, it's the opposite of commission. We repent of it when we liturgically confess that we've sinned in "things done and things undone."

This has nothing to do with narcissism or pomposity, so apparently psychology isn't your forte, either.
 

AMonger

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An odd statement, considering that popes (falsely) consider themselves vicars of Christ on Earth. He's since elaborated on his statement, saying it doesn't change his organization's stance on same-sex perversion.

Well, he put it differently...
 

letzrockexpress

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Scripture is of no private interpretation.

If this true then why do countless commentaries exist on the subject?

This has nothing to do with narcissism or pomposity, so apparently psychology isn't your forte, either.

Your constant need to demonstrate your disdain for what you have deemed sinful proves that it does... I'm no psychologist but I have lived enough life to know when one is taken with themself.
 

EnglishLady

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Y'know I'm sure that the word forgiveness is in the bible somewhere.

Also ..... he who is without sin cast the first stone

:rolleyes:
 

runrunner

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My Mom taught me to never argue Religion or Politics. Very smart Woman. Thank you,Momma.
 

davekc

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Scripture is of no private interpretation.

Sure it is. If it wasn't, you would only have one religion. And we know that certainly is the case.
Ask any one of them and I can ensure you that their version of scripture is exactly right.
The reality is, none of them really know. They only hope they know.
 

pandora2112

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Not that I agree with you all I can say is Jesus changed my life and if you want more info I will tell you if not thats fine too I dont hold it against you you have that right and I will be praying for you for good not bad. Be that as it may do you remember in the Bible where God used A talking jack azz to get Balem's attention? Amonger proves that could have very well happened. LOL

Lol! You make a good point!
I'm perfectly happy were I am, but thank you. One side of my family is very much Christian, with a few preachers and Christian music players so I know all about it. That's part of why I quit arguing, for some their religion (be it Christianity, Wicca, whatever) has helped them through difficult times, given them strength, etc.
I personally think the most level headed Christians practice "hate the sin, love the sinner", don't take everything written in the bible as literal (Leviticus anyone?) and above all don't let arrogance, hatred and fear blind them.
My family on that side is mostly Pentecostal so they are very strict and don't approve of my religious choices but they would never turn their back on me. Pray daily, preach to me and try to change my mind yes....but never turn away from me. Even if I was gay! :p

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Humble2drive

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

Am I the only one that feels like this is "Groundhog Day"?

Amonger regurgitates the same tired homosexual/sodomite/pedophilia
arguments and the same E.O. Members pile on each time to try and convince him otherwise.

Should I expect a different ending at some point?

Not likely. :(
 
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